[ENG/HEB] Enough is Enough / מספיק זה מספיק
John TG
I write this article to express my indignation on the issue of Israeli regions occupated from Turkey.
I believe I am not representing only myself in this but the majority of the people of Israel.
Before many days Turkey agreed with the EDEN countries (including Israel) to become candidate country.
Apparently an obvious condition was to liberate the territories of the member of EDEN that were occupied .These territories were from Romania (which were released) and Israel (1 from 5 region has been released)
I’m informed that Turkish president and Israeli president made an “agreement” about the occupied Israeli regions.
Which are the exact details of that deal?
This deal is the connection of Iran’s occupied regions to Saudi’s occupied regions.
But as you see FYROM has cut their route.
So now what?
Is there any time schedule about this agreement?
If Turkey cannot occupies these regions and make the connection??
Are we going to wait for 1-2 months until Turkey accomplishes that?
I don’t have ANY objection with Turkey’s nomination in EDEN but as EDEN country-member the minimum we can have is our lands back.
We shouldn’t have to beg or wait until Turkey conquers the whole world so we will be liberated.
If there aren’t details about that connection and if there isn’t any time-schedule about this agreement.. Then personally I find these conditions UNACCEPTABLE and I DEMAND re-negotiation.
And personally I don’t give a f*ck about Turkey’s bonus and about cp’s agreements .The “agreements” and the “alliances” are made between the people and their actions...and not between 2 persons that they are elected for 1 month.
Israel used to live WITHOUT bonus for 2 months (because of Turkey’s occupation)..I suppose Turkey can live without 20% more bonuses..
Also i want to remind everyone that Israel is the EDEN country..and Turkey is in trial period...that means that Turkey must prove to Israel too it’s good will.
Finally all this is not about bonuses...is about respect, honor and dignity.
Everyone who occupies my country’s land is my enemy..
Enough is enough..
*Many Thanks to giladrubin for hebrew translation
Hebrew:
מספיק זה מספיק,
אני כותב את הכתבה הנוכחית כדי להביע את דעתי על המצב של הכיבוש הטורקי בשטחי ישראל.
אני מאמין שאני לא מייצג רק את עצמי בזה אלה את דעת רוב אזרחי ישראל.
לפני הרבה ימים טורקיה הסכימה עם המדינות בעדן (כולל ישראל) להיות מדינה מועמדת.
כנראה אחד מהתנאים הברורים היה לשחרר את כל השטחים הכבושים של חברי עדן.
השטחים האלה היו של רומניה (שכבר שוחררו) ושל ישראלי (שרק אזור אחד שוחרר).
אני מעודכן שהנשיא הטורקי והנשיא הישראלי הגיעו ל"הסדר" לגבי השטחים הכבושים בישראל.
מה התנאים המדויקים של העסקה הזאת?
העסקה הזאת אומרת שצריך שיהיה חיבור בשטחים הכבושים של אירן ושל ערב הסעודית קודם.
חתכה את הדרך fyrom אבל כמו שאתם רואים
אז מה עכשיו?
יש איזה שהוא לוח זמנים בשביל ההסכם הזה? ומה יקרה אם טורקיה לא תצליח לעשות את החיבור?
האם נצטרך לחכות חודש או חודשים עד שטורקיה תשיג את המטרה?
אין לי שום התנגדות לזה שטורקיה תצטרף לעדן אבל בתור מדינה ששייכת לעדן המינימום שאנחנו צריכים לקבל זה את השטחים שלנו חזרה.
אנחנו לא צריכים להתחנן או לחכות עד שטורקיה תכבוש את כל העולם בכדי שנשתחרר.
אם אין שום פרטים נוספים לגבי החיבור, ואם אין לוח זמנים לגבי ההסכם. אני אישית רואה את התנאים האלה לא מקובלים ואני דורש משא ומתן מחודש.
ושוב אני אישית ממש לא אכפת לי מהבונוסים הנוספים של טורקיה ומההסכם בין הנשיאים. ההסכמים והבריתות נעשים ע"י האנשים ומעשיה.. לא בין שתי אנשים שנבחרים למשך חודש אחד בלבד.
ישראל כבר חודשיים בלי בונוסים (בגלל הכיבוש הטורקי). אני מניח שטורקיה יכולה לשרוד בלי 20 אחוז של בונוסים נוספים.
שוב אני רוצה להזכיר לכולם ישראל היא מדינת עדן.. וטורקיה בתק' מבחן. זה אומר שטורקיה צריכה להוכיח לישראל שכוונותיהם טובות.
לסיום כל זה , זה לא לגבי בונוסים .. זה לגבי כבוד והגינות.
כל מי שכובש את השטח במדינה שלי הוא האויב שלי.
מספיק זה מספיק!
*על התרגום לעברית giladrubin תודה ל
Comments
Enought ia Enough!
Enough is what?
Enough is Enough!
Turkey showed it's good will towards Israel by liberating Nazareth North District and letting Israel have a congress.
The deal is negotiated between Turkish CP, Israeli CP, EDEN SG and EDEN MC.
The deal is that Turkey shall return Israel's regions, after she connects her regions in Saudi Arabia with its capital.
This must be done until 06.01.2011.
It is loud and clear.
Please do not waste any more damage to "friendly fire".
Also, please remind that if Turkey had not joined EDEN, Israel would probably be under occupation for the rest of the year and no one cared.
Turkey is not your enemy anymore, please have respect to the government that your people elected.
Regards,
kloraq
"And personally I don’t give a f*ck about Turkey’s bonus and about cp’s agreements .The “agreements” and the “alliances” are made between the people and their actions...and not between 2 persons that they are elected for 1 month."
This is exactly the attitude you should refrain from.
If you don't give a f*ck about resource bonuses of eTR, they won't give a f*ck about your either.
What you should ask for is not premature liberation. You should ask eTR to DoW FYROM. Then it will all follow and Israel will be back on the map completely.
guys i think klorag is right
Big VOTE!!!!!!!!!!
Enough is Enough
@kloraq...SA is not your regions...you are a trail member and we are a member.
FREE REPUBLIKA SRPSKA
FREE MONTENEGRO
FREE ROMANIA
FREE ISRAEL
FREE IRAN
FREE CONSTNTINOPOL
FREE TURKEY FROM TURKS
HAIL 83%
ALL UNITED AGAINST TURKS
kloraq +1905
so why, then, israel or eden hq is not officially protesting this?
i assume there IS an agreement between two governments. i suggest everyone to be calm about it.
Moreover, it's not only 20% bonus. Turkey will be losing 3 bonuses (fish, aluminum and grain) if they release israel before connecting through iran; and comparing the populations of two countries, this would be a much worse damage to the economy of EDEN compared to israel living without 2 additional bonuses for a couple of weeks more. I guess this is the rationale behind this delay.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
@Kemal Ergenekon
You are missing something my friend...I wil not ASK from an EDEN member to liberate another EDEN member...EDEN rules demand this.
@CCC iskender Buyuk CCC
"Turkey will be losing 3 bonuses"
So..is better for Israel to have only 20%.....nice..
The brotherhood is almost dead, turk's poison is destroying it's core, slow and effective... EDEN COUNTRIES DONT OCCUPATE EACH OTHER, IDIOTS !
"The deal is that Turkey shall return Israel's regions, after she connects her regions in Saudi Arabia with its capital."
Don't get your hopes too high Turks,you'll be back on your original territories very soon.
Bulgreece NE Turkey and it all be over...
@John TG
Bulgaria kept many regions of Ukraine under occupation, and still does keep some of them.
If governments have a deal, and agree on this, I don't know what is the reason of your hurry ?
I talked with your CP a few days ago and he told me that everything was under control.
I know that the age average of Israeli players are very low, but you seem like a reasonable person. Please refrain from immature actions.
@John TG
strategically and economically speaking, yes. turkey has probably 10X more population than israel. so, turkey losing 3 bonuses to give israel 2 more bonuses just because they don't wanna wait for 2 more weeks would be a stupid decision.
you act like a baby, seriously. if there is a problem, tell your CP to protest it, do not try to create confusion and hostility.
"Turkey showed it's good will towards Israel by liberating Nazareth North District and letting Israel have a congress.
The deal is negotiated between Turkish CP, Israeli CP, EDEN SG and EDEN MC.
The deal is that Turkey shall return Israel's regions, after she connects her regions in Saudi Arabia with its capital.
This must be done until 06.01.2011.
It is loud and clear.
Please do not waste any more damage to "friendly fire".
Also, please remind that if Turkey had not joined EDEN, Israel would probably be under occupation for the rest of the year and no one cared.
Turkey is not your enemy anymore, please have respect to the government that your people elected.
Regards,
kloraq"
+1
Israel wait you'r NE proposal about Fyrom!
Please do it fast, thank you!
@DCbg
you are a total fail dude.
"EDEN COUNTRIES DONT OCCUPATE EACH OTHER, IDIOTS ! "
now, open the map and check out the ukraine.
Turkey showed it's good will towards Israel by liberating Nazareth North District and letting Israel have a congress.
The deal is negotiated between Turkish CP, Israeli CP, EDEN SG and EDEN MC.
The deal is that Turkey shall return Israel's regions, after she connects her regions in Saudi Arabia with its capital.
This must be done until 06.01.2011.
It is loud and clear.
Please do not waste any more damage to "friendly fire".
Also, please remind that if Turkey had not joined EDEN, Israel would probably be under occupation for the rest of the year and no one cared.
Turkey is not your enemy anymore, please have respect to the government that your people elected.
Regards,
kloraq
+19o7
If kloraq's said is right, please be patient.
"Turkey showed it's good will towards Israel by liberating Nazareth North District and letting Israel have a congress.
The deal is negotiated between Turkish CP, Israeli CP, EDEN SG and EDEN MC.
The deal is that Turkey shall return Israel's regions, after she connects her regions in Saudi Arabia with its capital.
This must be done until 06.01.2011.
It is loud and clear.
Please do not waste any more damage to "friendly fire".
Also, please remind that if Turkey had not joined EDEN, Israel would probably be under occupation for the rest of the year and no one cared.
Turkey is not your enemy anymore, please have respect to the government that your people elected.
Regards,
kloraq"
I blame Israeli Government, and Lieber7 for not clearly...no not at all, communicating these "deals" with the Israeli people!
Buyuk , u r stupid as f***, renting is not the same as occupieing... GIVE 200 gold monthly to eIsrael for each region and i will commit my mistake...
if there is an agreement until 06.01.2012
then we will see what happens until then.
personally i will not fight for turkey until this agreement is fulfilled though
there is lot of plans which going on so leave eden hq,turkey and israel gov to do our job. and u will see results soon. if we failed then u can kill us all. now give us just a few days to finish what we started.
if u speak about honour
than obey your aggrements with ur allies first.
kloraq +1
@joe
its ur countries problem.. u elected them to rule ur country..
really i cant understand there is a date.. why u cant wait 1 week ?
@CCC iskender Buyuk CCC
ME trying to create hostility??See my profile and check my best damage for which country is..
Is about dignity..not creating hostility..
@kloraq
I bet my president doesnt even understood the agreed date...because he told me about 25-26/12..and not about 6/1/2012...
@JoeFranco
+1
kloraq +1
@mtmrtsn
I dont take lessons from you about honor..You dont know me..ask your companions about me first..
Turkey NE FYROM, connect your regions in 2 days and set Israel free...
2 more weeks without bonuses is bad for Israel and we don't want our little bro to suffer, right? 😉
kloraq +1
On a more personal note, you thanked someone for hebrew translation so you're not really as Israeli? IF that's the case that'd explain why Milosevics are repeating the same nonsense. I hope real Israelis trust us to uphold our bargains. And help us to make it happen. Besides, our guys in Eden and TR gov will fix things up good. Then it's all sunshine and stability, and no more cheap excuses to blacken Turkey's reputation.
if u want to join a brotherhood, u shouldnt set conditions for the members, u should fulfill theirs.... Total fail Eden and Terra, total fail for the turkey !
@efeo
Fail comment...You will not turn the people of Israel against me mate 🙂
I have done more than YOU can imagine for Israel..so stick to the subject of the article..
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Guys calm down, we are on the same side now, we will get MKD out of the region and distribute resources fairly. Just give EDEN and Turkey a little more time, be sure that we are not happy with the current situation as well.
radens Day 1,498, 03:09
Turkey NE FYROM, connect your regions in 2 days and set Israel free...
2 more weeks without bonuses is bad for Israel and we don't want our little bro to suffer, right?
+1
I don't know mate. If it's all about damage dealt on eIsrael's side PedjaT is the eYehova. I don't gain anything turning people against you, too. That's childish impeachment. Just advising the more logical way to make things better for all of us. Which is more help than lessening Turkey's resources that will be used against Macedons and ONE in my opinion.
And yes, we should NE them but probably HQ is planning on a simultaneous law proposal and attack for an easier victory.
~V~VVV~VVVVVV`
john tg i love you mate , be patient ...soon mate will be your time
@ Tjutg Simzb MKD? MacDonalds?
FYROM should be NEd once and for all
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better be wiped than live poisened by turkey.
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Looks like EDEN was too anxious to take Turkey with them, that they made a bad deal concerning other countries. On the other hand, Israel is too weak to have claims. At least you could have fought to RENT your territories to Turkey, even with EDENs financial contribution!
One thing is for cetain, Turks are the best at bargains 😉