[Egyptians] Forming an Anti-Government
Farbous
Dear Egyptians,
Dear Pro-Egyptian Forces,
Dear PTO'ers,
I'm happy to announce something we've worked on for the last few weeks. The real life Egyptians and their supporters, mostly organized in three parties (7izb al Tahrir, Arab Liberal Party, Radical Socialist Party), have prepared every step to form an own, separate government opposing to the official one taken over by Catalans.
Why did we do that?
There hasn't been any other option. The Catalans, particularly the last cabinets by Naboal and his friends, could be called fascist when it comes to RL Egyptians. There is no congress where the Egyptians could oppose the decisions of the Catalans. There is no Egyptian majority inside of eEgypt anymore, just about 40% Egyptians, more or less. But we don't see ANY of our interests recognized. Take a look of the finances. The Egyptians pay taxes according to the game mechanics like the Catalans. But we don't see any pound supporting us. Catalans rule over 100% of the state treasury. The Egpyptians (again, we're about 40
😵have nothing. I'm going to ask you: Is this fair?
Whatever, let me explain how this anti-government should be formed!
Let's begin with the foundation of every movement: the people. Every active Egyptian will be invited to join the Central Committee in which he is allowed to vote for or against laws and decisions. Furthermore he gets the possibility to elect and get elected into the Politburo, the political center.
The Politburo, a group of 5 members, create, discuss and vote in every law. Therefore, the Politburo is the main legislative body. However, the Central Committee, in which every active Egyptian will be represented, has to vote for every law and decision made by the Politburo as well. That means, the Central Committee has always the right to veto every law of the Politburo.
The person who represents the Egyptian anti-government is the so-called General Secretary. After the five Politburo members are elected, there will be elections within the politburo who should act as the General Secretary. Except for representing the Egyptian anti-government internationally, the General Secretary has no extra rights. He's actually a normal Politburo member.
Like in every official government, we will also have our own ministries. A big focus will be social aspects like trying to build up a good supporting program for every Egyptian, as well as getting recognized in the eWorld. Our main goal is still to reconquer eEgypt. Our ministries are:
- Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA)
- Ministry of Interior (MoI)
- Ministry of Defense (MoD)
- Ministry of Social Affairs (MoSA)
- Ministry of Finances (MoF)
The different tasks of the ministries will be explained later in a second article with the cabinet.
However, from the 4th until today we've held the first politburo elections. The results are:
For the next month, the politburo members are: Farbous, Varlosh, Abu Alleil, Mikhail Zarevich Kalashnikov and ezat8. I'm happy to work with you all together. I will open a group message for the Politburo later as well as a second for the Central Committee.
As always, you'll be messaged with upcoming news!
🙂
Until then o/
Hassan Salama aka Farbous
tl;dr: Egyptians found their own government. Their own parliament called politburo has already been elected. Every voter and commentator gets a present.
Comments
Rabia!
I have tried to communicate with your friends to get to perform any covenant for the common good and I have not received a reply, then the fault is yours.
Perhabs the conditions were far too bad. I mean, Catalans come to Egypt and behave like they give a part of their own land to some aliens...
I DO NOT TOLD ANY CONDITION, just wanted to start talking to NEGOTIATE, and was ignored..
I didn'r say you set up conditions of talking. I just said that the situation (as I btw described above) was and is still too bad to negotiate.
If you want to fix things and go up together, please contact me luck.
Good luck!
voted.
This have been a hard organization task done mainly by Farbous, is not easy to do this.
I have good feelings with this system, we will avoid the boring tovers and will play by ourselves.
All egyptians and pro-egyptian citizens are invited to this!
Voted & Supported o7
Will be a honor to serve eEgypt people!
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viva le revolution!
eSA stands with you. We are tired of fascists!
o/
poor holders, thay cannot participate in your system...
because holders are overrated :3
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It is an important and great step toward organizing eEgyptians and Pro-Egyptians, I am so optimistic and i hope to achieve our goals through discussion and elections.
It is an important and great step toward organizing eEgyptians and Pro-Egyptians, I am so optimistic and i hope to achieve our goals through discussion and elections.
HAIL CATALONIA! EGIPT IS CATALONIA!
Farbous (the Lebanese) wrote:
-Why did we do that?
"blablabla (lies) blablabla (more lies + demagogy)"
I answer:
Every eEgyptian has recived the same conditions to achieve their social grants and awards as you can see for example here:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-moe-ajudes-socials-i-premis-social-grants-and-awards-cat-eng--2420551/1/20
and here
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mod-2nd-national-shield-premis-gf-6-i-premis-finals--2386234/1/20
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http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mod-2nd-national-shield-premis-gf-5--2385918/1/20
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http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ministeri-de-defensa-2nd-national-shield-cat-amp-eng-ajudes-assistance-2384505/1/20
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...
So could you please inform you better next time before you write this kind of disrespectful articles plenty of lies.
About beign or not majority in every elections, if any group wants to become the President you should just win a single CP elections ingame, WE NEVER PTOED egyptian RL Parties so any kind of RL egyptians party who wanted has had all the time their chance to achieve that objective.
There's no PTO when Parties arent PTOED from more than 1 year ago...maybe the problem is that you dont consider the catalans citiziens whith the same rights than any other citiziens with eEgyptian CS...if is this what you think maybe the fascisit is you.
Have a nice day.
shut up your yap. If you want to put two or three links where you want to appear the good guys of the history, I can also play this game and share all your articles, comments, screenshots where all of you want to kick egyptians out of here and take over their parties (do you remember Pau Steve comments about egyptians?)
You take advantage of your RL socioeconomic situation to keep the control of eEgypt. In Europe is easier for us to have Internet connections (cheaper, faster, more coverage), none of you have to work as many hours as some egyptians players have to work every day. And, as you are more active and your group is the majoritary group you're glad to decide with a system where 1 person = 1 vote while spitting out that this is "Democracy". We are not in a country where 1 person = 1 vote can be a form of democracy because this is a country with closed group. And this is very know by anyone who knows a bit, only a bit, about political science or about history (In Ruanda the system was 1 person = 1 vote too, until one group decide to kill another group in a desesperated way to get recognised) 1 person = 1 vote is only a democratic system in societies whitout closed groups.
So curious, when all of you played in eSpain you never defended that 1 person = 1 vote were democratic and you always demanded recognition and power to your group in order to defend "minorities". It's seems that is easy, so easy, forgot your past and your way of thinking when you are not oppressed anymore, but oppresor.
Posted in public section of your national-teletubby-socialist-imaginary kingdom of catalan-unicorns forum:
http://eegipte.forocatala.com/t279-political-takeover-eegypt
I will translate:
Title: Political Take Over Egypt
Penedesenc post:
More or less that's what we do right? (TO)
World still unknow that we control Egypt or they just don't care?
I said that because we must be in the list. I would love to appear in the list 😃
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Political_takeover
JoshBiG post:
Probably is a combination that (egyptians) don't care, and that they ingnore we TOved them.
Naboal post:
I guess they don't care because egyptians are less than 10 citizens...is a failed state that we make work with our presence.
Your attitude is self explanatory, keep the teletubby tales for tell them to your fascist friends.
i answer on etch comment which is the same as you.
No Arab defended the Catalans .
Good words were false .
http://youtu.be/a0x6vIAtFcI
Mikhail wrote:
Posted in public section of your national-teletubby-socialist-imaginary kingdom of catalan-unicorns forum:
http://eegipte.forocatala.com/t279-political-takeover-eegypt
I will translate:
Title: Political Take Over Egypt
Penedesenc post:
More or less that's what we do right? (TO)
World still unknow that we control Egypt or they just don't care?
I said that because we must be in the list. I would love to appear in the list 😃
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Political_takeover
JoshBiG post:
Probably is a combination that (egyptians) don't care, and that they ingnore we TOved them.
Naboal post:
I guess they don't care because egyptians are less than 10 citizens...is a failed state that we make work with our presence.
Your attitude is self explanatory, keep the teletubby tales for tell them to your fascist friends.
I must say that what i said before is still true, eEgypt with the few egyptians RL that play this game is not enough to make anything, even with us is dificult, and remeber that we kicked the ass of the REAL CROAT LNL TOVERS while most of the egyptians RL fled to SA because they couldnt face that threat...even later we had to face other PTO attempts alone...
We, the Catalans, wanted a place were we could have the chance to be/feel free while in Spain wasnt posible because of anticatalan people like you (for the left) or like the fascist party that is TOP1 in Spain(for the right) its was just so masochistic to stay there.
You've a strong obsession with anticatalanism. you see anticatalanism everywhere in the world. In only one year, your group has called "anticalan people" to spaniards (said by all of you), frenchs (said by edahi), greeks (said by sferrerm, that chauvinist male who write sexist articles and your last president) , egyptians (said by almogaver), italians (said by almogaver), russians (jordic, I think), communists (foltof in #eandorra), cubans, anarchists....
Update yourself, Hitler is dead and his victimism speechs are considered populism now.
You, the catalfascists, are exactly the same than any other fascist in the world. And when a fascist is in charge of something, then fascism starts.
You, the catalfascists, have been told sometimes to create another system where on group don't ridge over another. But you haven't listened. You only want give scraps to egyptians if they are loyal to your orders.
You don't understand that this country mustn't be anymore a place for catalfascists and egyptians only, and this is the reason because you discriminate people by it's origin, like Farbous.
First part, Ok, you took the country when it was supposed there was any egyptian inside. You all took more 6000 gold from treasury, so Ok, you have been "paid", now you can leave.
And actually eEgypt is a failed state, but this time is thanks to your group. Only thing you all do is steal money, you all cannot do more.
If you all are a bunch of cowards that cannot fight for Catalonia in eSpain, is not eEgypt problem.
No one is anticalan here, I'm catalan RL, but seem you don't like to remember.
Hope you all leave soon, with all money you have, you can re-start elsewhere again, and I'm sure there are governments that would agree to accept your Catalan state without making a TO.
If i say there is a lot of anticatalans in spain (which i really think) and edahi say the same about french people and sferrer about greeks that doesnt mean the catalan group is xauvinism and thinks that, there are ONLY the opinion of 1 person about one national group....again you are using demagogy to put ideas on a group when they are only from 1 person in every case who at the same time has the right to have the opinion who wants.
What is fascist is to say 1000 times the same lie in order to put an idea on the people which is not true. (an even unfair)
Joseph Goebbels
“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”
“It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.”
Your fascist teacher etchner.
Naboal wrote:
"...there are ONLY the opinion of 1 person about one national group...."
The problem is that the comments done by Edahi, Sferrer and you naboal...thos 1 persons....that have been PRESIDENT of eEgypt, president is usually 1 person, that often get voted by their citizens, in this case, catalans in Egypt.
So we understand, most part of catalans are agree with the racist affirmations done by the Catalgipcia citizens that have been Presidents. (That includes Free Nations presidents supported by Catalgipcia)
By the way, I never felt represented by any of you.
for the same reason i should think that RL egyptians and spanish/lebanese players with egyptian CS are all thieves cause they suported more than 3 times aknouh and ahmed when they STOLE 300 golds?
No, your arguments make no sense and your reductionism even less
Lady ita and Mr Edahi stole the public trasure to ALL the eEgyptians (catalans, RL eegyptians and the rest) I am not responsible for what others have done, what it was on our hand to try to get the money back was did it without result and Ita and Edahi has been banished from the catalan comunity for it, nothing more we can do with it.
"for the same reason i should think that RL egyptians and spanish/lebanese players with egyptian CS are all thieves cause they suported more than 3 times aknouh and ahmed when they STOLE 300 golds?"
Well... the only spanish players who are in this country are you. And is evident that you and your friends have part of stolen treasury. Edahi is only a guinea pig.
NESHone666, another catalfascist, has just written on this article:
NESHone666 Day 2,544, 14:26
HAIL CATALONIA! EGIPT IS CATALONIA!
So if 1 egyptian RL says that arabs must do the jihad to the infidels then all egyptians are jihadists?
I didn't expect that kind of demagogy from someone who tell's to everybody that groups doesn't exist (or something very similar...)
Btw NESHone666 is new in eEgypt it's normal to doesnt have a clear idea of all this things, we sure will eplxain to him that that isn't our goal, we manage the gov for all.
If you are trying to say that only one catalan RL has said something similar to "NESHone666" word, tell me:
* Why you, sferrerm and montserrati said on your irc channels that you need a catalan babyboom in order to not to allow egyptians win an election?
* Why Pau Esteve told you in your forum to take over 7isb?
* Why have you stolen public treasure?
* Why have you social grants only for catalfascist people?
1. Cause we (as a group with high affinities) want to be the ones who manage and decide in this place called eEgypt with respect with any kind of minorities (even with the ones who hates us like you)
2. Pau Esteve must answer that question, i think he had a bad idea and the reason to say this is that no catalans followed him on that.
3.Lady ita & Mr Edahi stole part of the treasure for them we dont aprove their action and they have forbiden their participation in any catalan place in this game who deppends on us. Again the action of 1 or 2 is used by people like you to make demagogic conclusions, even if the group you want to attack thinks just the other way.
4. The social grants which depend on public trasure of eEgypt is for ALL the citizens with egyptian CS without diferences, saying other thing it's just a LIE i already stick lots of links of articles where you can see that what im saying is totally true.
Of course any party is allowed to have their particular grants and helps to new players of them for example the PPCC party has an own Bank with 2 kind of actions, giving food and helping new people to achieve the 4-4-4-4 training as soon as posible, and i particulary think it's something to be proud of cause it helps to ALL the group to have stronger fighters for egypt, but it¡s a private thing, the government has nothing to do with it.
I cannot belive you wrote this kind of wicked comparison:
"So if 1 egyptian RL says that arabs must do the jihad to the infidels then all egyptians are jihadists?"
Really shows a lack of understanding of All.
The ironic that what Catalan people suffer in Spain, is applied on Egyptians by the hands of Catalans people.
Egyptians goals are the same of Catalans in Spain.
Catalans please open your minds and do not continue this sarcastic play that you do not do anything and all the blame is on Egyptians because they are minorities.
Good luck! Let's hope it could be a new start and improve the relations between all the players in eEgypt. We are strong together.
Don't be a fake now. You, Mr Ex-President of Egypt that don't did nothing when he had the chance to improve those relations.
When I was President I broke out croatians with the help of all the players...
Aligual lies (as always), he was willing to be allies in eEgypt with croatian PTOers of LnL.
vote 😘
And that will give you, Egyptians, nothing more than the illusion of doing something. You should think other ways to get to the power, not creating a new one: that is the confirmation that you accept the defeat...
Rupert Sai😛
"... that is the confirmation that you accept the defeat... "
I say, your words are the confirmation you belive you are at WAR with Egyptians, since you talk about defeats...
By the way, what we will give is unknow except If you have a ball of glass to predict future. What we know is that your governments are the most boring and useless ever in eEgypt.
every elections has a winner/s and a looser/s, that condition can change (or not) every month in this game, play fair like all and complain less.
Haha! Naboal talking about playing fair....
Show me last 6 months reports of the TOver government published ingame, Mr ex-President that helps this country against it's failure.
You have to realize the difference between complain and criticize.
I'm criticizing your useless job for improve eEgypt, but as usual, you don't like to be criticized....Sorry, but you cannot kick me from eEgypt, or kick me from YOUR Party, or ban me from YOUR IRC channel, or YOUR forum, Mr.Democracy.
Stand the critics like a men or go cry elsewhere. In any case, you have your 20 loyal 2clickers that will follow you without doing any question (poor of them If they do).
Well, I think there are winners and losers in politics, as well as in sports, lottery, etc.; your populism is so sophisticated, but you need some more experience.
If you don't like our Governments, fight against them democratically, not as you are doing now.
Btw, are you Egyptian?
Rupert is worried about DNA and blood heritage....Interesting, let me tell you that Spain included half Catalonia was under Arab control by Arabs for almost 800 years.
Also in those times, Spain included catalonia, was the country with more jews in the planet.
Then, before asking me If I'm egyptian, better check from where you come, maybe you will get a surprise. And who knows, maybe your surnames and the surnames of your ancerstors came from Spain :0 hope you don't get a heart attack If you have spanish surnames man.
I need more experience??? Who belive you are for say those words??
I laugh at you Mr.Rupert, really, because you won't stand 6 months of Egyptian rule. At the 2nd month you just would leave like a rat abandoning the vessel. I'll be here for check don't worry.
It's very easy to be big mouth when you are in the Top position, but we will see your experience when you are in inferiority. We will see how much you care about this country and catalanism. When the money stops arriving to your pocket we will see how many time you stand bored in Egypt.
Honestly I don't really see the point why you are criticizing this step, my dear Catalans. I mean, if you want to deal with us on a basis of mutual trust, you've forfeited your chance. However, you can use the situation now to deal with an organized RL Egyptian movement that tries to find a way forward. You do have the chance to make the best out of it, but you haven't started to use this chance so far. Regardless your comments here, you could try to compensate your previous mistakes. Think about it.
At the outset, I want to explain that I hate a bad relationship between Catalan and Egyptians as if we live in two states.
Do not forget that we live on one land and under the same sky and drink from one Neil.
We are different in everything such as religion, color, shape, type, and sex, but in one community is exposed to the same poor economic and hygiene conditions.
Our country is Fully occupied by enemies that enjoy with our fruits , such as Greece and Cyprus
International position almost non-existent
I see from my point of view that dialogue is the solution
Must sit at the table of dialogue to speak and to close views for all
Finally, I call on all political elites strong and mature to sit down to solve our problems
Voted, and supported for principle of discussions, Though may be take more time
if the the Egyptian anti-government is formed and become as a fact, the official government may be more effective and try to be better than Egyptian anti-government