[真實] 外電:EDEN─把烏克蘭踢出去!─可恥的是他們 from eUSA Tamas Vlad (03期)

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[真實] 外電:EDEN─把烏克蘭踢出去!─可恥的是他們 from eUSA Tamas Vlad (03期)

[Truth] Translation: EDEN - Kick Ukraine OUT - SHAME ON THEM from eUSA Tamas Vlad



注意:本人破爛英文或許有影響到原文意思,若有任何錯誤煩請不吝指正,感謝各位大德。(希望多翻譯幾篇練經驗後可以讓大家以後不用對我的破英文傷腦筋XD)
Attention: My broken English may affect the meaning of original article, if you find any mistakes, please correct it, thank you. ( And I hope I can earn more experiences after I translate more articles, and everyone won't worry about my broken English. XD )


原文出處:http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eden-kick-ukraine-out-shame-on-them-2070366/1/20
Original Source: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eden-kick-ukraine-out-shame-on-them-2070366/1/20

編按:因為時效性所以先斬後奏,但已去信確認是否能正式地獲得翻譯權。對於這樣的事情由衷地對原作者感到抱歉,如原作者反對這項失禮的舉動,將立刻撤下報紙。另外我沒辦法開eREP的世界地圖,因此目前誰擁有哪些區域我不清楚。
Editor's Note: Have already translate without agree because of timeliness, but already sent mail to ask if I could get the formal right of translation. I sincerely feel sorry about this behavior, if original author against my impolite behavior, I'll remove this translation as soon as I can. By the way, I can open the eWorld map so that I don't understand who owns what areas.


更新:剛才收到原作者回信,他表示了同意這篇翻譯!謝謝他!
Update: I receive the reply from original author, he agreed to this translation! Thanks him again!


EDEN - Kick Ukraine OUT - SHAME ON THEM
EDEN─把烏克蘭踢出去!─可恥的是他們

176 • 2 days ago • USA • Political debates and analysis Political debates and analysis
176(回應),2天前,eUSA,政治辯論和政論分析

Hello, my friends
哈囉,我的朋友們

From the beginning i would like you to VOTE this article, i need it to reach INTERNATIONAL sights so every country can see the true face of eUkrain, and it is not a nice one

首先,我希望你們V這篇文章,我希望這篇文章可以被推上國際觀點,讓每個國家都可以看到烏克蘭的真面目,他(們)不是個好東西


SO VOTE Please...

所以,拜託( V )了

Hello eRomania and especially Mihail.Cazacu (who is the 2nd in command at EDEN HQ). I understand that you are one of the romanians who represent eRomania in EDEN.

你好,e羅馬尼亞人,尤其是Mihail.Cazacu (這位在EDEN總部擁有第二順位指揮權的人)。我了解你是在EDEN代表e羅馬尼亞的羅馬尼亞人。

I don't usualy write posts such as private messages but i need to know your point about the conflict betwen eRepublik of Moldova and eUkrain in the last month.

我不常寫私信,但我需要了解你對上個月e摩爾瓦多共和國和e烏克蘭彼此之間衝突的觀點。

The discussion began when my friend noticed Mihail.Cazacu fighting against eMoldova.

這項議題的開始是當我朋友注意到了Mihail.Cazacu 對抗e摩爾瓦多共和國的時候。

mihail.cazacu to ***** | yesterday

mihail.cazacu寄(信)給***** | 昨日

You abused the trust of Romania and EDEN's when you attacked Taurida instead attacking Polisia.

你濫用了e羅馬尼亞和EDEN的信任當你開始攻擊Taurida (編按:原e烏克蘭的一個邊界)而不是Polisia(編按:波里希,原e波蘭的一塊地區)。

Now you have become a problem that needs to be solved.

現在你將有個問題必須解決。

I want to remind everyone that eMoldova stayed and fought for 4 days without NE carrying discussions with the Ukrainian CP to sign that peace treaty and possibly destroy those ONE alliances that are not in place. But eUcraina did not wanted, eUcraina is the one using EDEN, having EDEN "protection", not eMoldova. For this conflict to end simple diplomacy and dialog would have been enough but eUkraine decided "the hard way", starting to insult "eRomania calling them Gypsy" and "tile and standstone people - eMoldova country". Brothers ... if you love to be called in the press Gypsy SUCCESS! Several articles where published in this way in eUkrainia, not to mention the hudreds of comments trolling moldavian and ukrainian articles.

我想要提醒大家:e摩爾瓦多共和國在沒有NE且和e烏克蘭總統(編按:這裡的CP指Country President總統或者Customization Points自定義點?)簽署和平條約並且可能破壞還未簽定ONE聯盟的情況下連續停留進行了4天的作戰。但e烏克蘭並不想,e烏克蘭是一個使用並且擁有EDEN保護的國家,而非e摩爾瓦多共和國。對於這項結束簡單外交和對話的衝突已經很夠了,但e烏克蘭決定一個「艱困的道路」,開始用「e羅馬尼亞叫他們吉普賽人」、「頭殼恐骨力的傢伙們。」──來污辱e摩爾瓦多共和國的人民。兄弟們!你是否喜歡被記者稱為「吉普賽僑民」!許多在e烏克蘭出版的文章、更不用說上百條挑撥的評論都在e摩爾瓦多共和國和e烏克蘭蔓延。

(編按1:這段翻譯由於我查找不到資訊的情況下可能會有誤議。另外troll或許也可以翻成釣魚XD那是"挑撥"這個字眼比較口語化的用法)
(Editor's note 1: There might be some mistakes in the translation of this paragraph because I can't search for more information.)
(編按2:無論在遊戲或者現實生活當中,立場不同的人相互對抗是很正常的事情,但我認為人與人之間平等,用帶著歧視言語說「吉普賽人」是很失禮的事情。)
(Editor's note 2: no matter in games or real life, people who are stand in different standpoint might conflict each other, I think it's normal. BUT I think it's impolite to call someone " Gypsy " in discriminatory speak.)

Mihai.cazacu asked why we attacked Taurida... well uncle, we could have attacked Polisia and close Hungarians Campaign in Ukraine but after we would have done that, we would have being facing Ukraine by our own, whitout any help from EDEN (EDEN did not heled us neither when we had only one region). We all remember when eMoldova had only one region, EDEN said that peace negociations are taking place, but then again UKRAINE put NE on Moldova, again, instead of proposing PEACE

Mihai.cazacu 問我們為什麼攻擊e烏克蘭的Taurida,我的好大爺,我們可以攻擊(e波蘭的) Polisia並且靠近e匈牙利在e烏克蘭的作戰。但在我們做了這件事情後,我們必須在沒有EDEN的任何幫助下獨自面對e烏克蘭。(EDEN也不會在我們只有一塊地區的情況下幫我們。)我們都還記得當e摩爾瓦多共和國只有一塊地區時,EDEN說和平談判正在進行,但e烏克蘭一再、一再地NE e摩爾瓦多共和國而不是(遵照)和平提議。

mihail.cazacu to ***** | 23 hours ago
mihail.cazacu (寄)給***** | 23小時前
You are doing what you have on your mind, we will act as we think we should.

你正在做你所想的,而我們也將採取我們應當做的行動

We do not do what comes to our mind! eMoldova was pending EDEN for the last 3 years, always being postponed for another 3 months of monitoring.Even when i was CP we where always "PENDING". If EDEN representatives and eRomania spit now on us we are going to be erased, but at least we will be erased with the dignity that some of you do not have and neither we or eRomania will not forgive those who spit at us.

我們卻不做我們所想做的!e摩爾瓦多共和國在過去三年等了EDEN,並且在其他三個月間總是被推遲(編按:應指加入聯盟一事)。甚至我自己定義了我們總是在「等待」!如果EDEN代表和e羅馬尼亞現在唾棄我們、我們將被刪除(會員),但至少我們是有尊嚴地被刪除(會員),你們當中的一些人──既不是我們也不是e羅馬尼亞人將不會忘記那些唾棄我們的人。





eMoldova always helped eRomania and EDEN, we always had alliances with TEDEN countries. eMoldova's people sawed ONE always as a dark side. Do not forget the MU's like LBV, Zimbrii, Haiducii who daily fight on behalf of eRomania, bringing signifiant damage, but it is not made in a "pictured frame" with parade's and screenshots and articles to impress EDEN. We do not regret this, we do not regret that we fought among our eRomanian brothers, who were and are and hoping will always be always there for us.

e摩爾瓦多共和國總是幫助e羅馬尼亞和EDEN,我們總是TEDEN的加盟國家們聯盟。e摩爾瓦多共和國的人民看見ONE總是在黑暗的一方。不要忘記每天以e羅馬尼亞名義而戰的MU's like LBV、Zimbrii和Haiducii所帶來的重大輸出(傷害),但他們並不是被塑造成一個銘刻在EDEN上的閱兵式的、擷圖般的框架。(編按:就是他們不是自動輸出的EDEN機器人、而是有血有肉的人的意思。)我們並沒有對此感到惋惜,我們並沒有對我們希望永遠和我們站在一起的、在我們當中共同作戰的e羅馬尼亞弟兄感到抱歉。

But if you now spit in us, the things that many say about eRomanians come true. Don't sell your home and brothers for a pair of underpants.

但是如果現在你們唾棄我們,許多關於e羅馬尼亞人的事情成真。
別出賣和你們穿同一條褲子長大的家園和兄弟們。



It is also noted that eUcraina allready has trends to alliance ABC or CoT, so spit on us now, and i am sure eUkraine will do the same thing with you later on, as they allready did before, and keep doing at the moment.

還有一點必須被提起的是:e烏克蘭已經傾向加盟ABC或者CoT,所以才唾棄我們。並且我確認e烏克蘭將來將會對你做同樣的事情,當他們過去做了這些事、未來也將繼續下去。

And do not forget ... BASARABIA is ROMANIAN LAND! (RL blood cponnection)
And figting in RW on eUkrainian side, on the side of those who call you "gypsies" you only tend to give them back our historical lands.

並且別忘記了!BASARABIA是e羅馬尼亞的土地!(現實生活中的血脈相連)

Towards the end i will come with some curiosity for those who were not here to fight:

在邁向結束前,我對那些沒有在這裡fight的人帶點好奇心。(編按:應指不關心這項議題的人)

- Did you know that while Hungary attacked Ukraine, Ukraine attacked Moldova's region Chisinau? Also holding one region occupied and changing CoD betwen them, _NOT_ even fighting against Hungary?

─你知道當e匈牙利攻擊e烏克蘭,e烏克蘭攻擊e摩爾瓦多共和國的土地Chisinau嗎?他們也保持一塊占領的地區並且在這當中設下了軍令,甚至不對抗e匈牙利?(編按:意思是e烏克蘭只打e摩爾瓦多共和國而不顧e匈牙利也在打自己)

-Did you know that eUkraine count on allies on Hungarian attacks, whyle they focus only on getting bonuses and erasing eMoldova in theire selfish personal campaign?

─你知道當e烏克蘭只自私地在乎戰爭加成而要將e摩爾瓦多共和國抹除時,e烏克蘭還為了e匈牙利的攻擊指責盟友嗎?

-Did you know that after they are calling you gypsies, they will count on you "gipsies" to recover from the Hungarian occupation? It will be hilarious to see you fighting by theire side then )

─你知道當他們叫你們吉普賽人、他們扣你吉普賽人的帽子,是為了掩飾e匈牙利的占領?當你看到他們一邊也在戰鬥的同時你會覺得很可笑!

The greatest care of Ukraine are not the potential bonuses that Hungary will get from them, nor EDEN orderes, but it is not to "live the shame" to be erased by Moldova. That's why they fought so passionately against it. It is the responsibility of Eden to take care of their cage first and then give others orders?

對e烏克蘭而言最被關注的並不是e匈牙利將獲得他們的加成、也不是EDEN的命令,只是不要被e摩爾瓦多共和國抹除而生活在恥辱中。這就是為什麼他們如此積極地去抵抗。難道優先關照他們而放棄其他命令是EDEN的責任?

Why not force the Ukrainians to come to negotiations? Why Ukraine still treat romanians like garbage, not lifting a finger to stop the conflict, but still benefit by EDEN's "assistance"?

The Evidence (while mighty EDEN removes the e'Moldaian "danger" Hungary wins his campaign with a score of 85 : 3 )

  為什麼不強迫e烏克蘭人來談判?為什麼e烏克蘭仍然將e羅馬尼亞人視為垃圾,不高抬貴手停止衝突而持續受惠於EDEN的幫助?

link here.
這裡的連結(編按:e烏克蘭和e匈牙利的戰場連結)
http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/29851

SO my questions now are...

所以我現在的問題是……

Why do you wish to fight for an ally that insults every time they have the chance?

為何你如此期盼和盟友進行戰爭並且一有機會就污辱他們?

How much time will you say nofting just bechause Ukraine is you'r "EDEN ally"? Shame on you for that...

有多少時間你緘默不言就因為e烏克蘭是你的「EDEN盟友」?
我為你感到羞恥…

Why do you wish to support an ally that does not listens to EDEN's ORDERS and does not respect any of the directives received by EDEN in the last month?

為什麼你要期望去支持一個不聽「EDEN指令」並且在上個月完不尊重任何EDEN指示的盟友?

eUkraine is fighting only to satisfy it's selfishness, so i suggest it's allies to think again when signing with them.

e烏克蘭只為了他們的私慾而戰,所以我建議對於和他們簽訂同盟需要三思。

In the same time, on Sunday 17 Moldova's point of view was rational: they agreed the war was stupid and they were ready to close it as soon as Ukraine can switch the NE from them to somebody else.

同時,在星期日e摩爾瓦多共和國的觀點是正確的:他們同意這場戰爭是愚蠢的,並且他們決定在e烏克蘭轉移NE目標時盡快結束(這場戰爭)。

Moldova pointed out that the war could have already been finished by then had not Ukraine voted a fresh NE on Moldova just a day before. They also explained the MPPs with ONE were the only way for them to resist being wiped out since Ukraine had all the EDEN behind her. Far from being pro-ONE, they were only using ONE for self defense.

e摩爾瓦多共和國指出這場戰爭已經在e烏克蘭沒有對他們進行新的NE投票而結束。他們也解釋了對ONE的MPP案對他們唯一的用途僅在於防止被滅國,因為e烏克蘭身後有整個EDEN在背後(支持)。離親ONE還很遠,他們只用ONE來進行自我防衛。

The conflict further escalated on the 19th of June, when the Ukrainian MoD made an insulting statement which was published for two long days in the Ukrainian official newspaper.

在6月19日,當e烏克蘭人在曝光長達兩天的官方軍令中出現污辱語句時,衝突進一步加劇。

It is one thing if the private persons troll in their private newspapers and a whole different thing if members of the government insult a whole nation in an official newspaper.

如果這在私人報紙的挑撥是一回事,但如果是出自官方報紙當中政府閣員的對整個國家的污辱,狀況就不同了。

Any wise government would not have allowed such a thing to be published even for one second, no matter what their private thoughts on the matter were. But eUkraine does not care about respect does it?

不管他們對於這件事的私人想法是什麼,任何明智的政府都不該允許這樣的東西被出版。(編按:應指污辱性言語)但e烏克蘭方面卻毫不在意?

Moldavian diplomacy used to their advantage the disastrous behavior of the Ukrainian government and secured an MPP with Romania.

e摩爾瓦多共和國使用了自己的優勢替e烏克蘭政府帶來災難並且也鞏固了和e羅馬尼亞的MPP。

And last but not least. The best Piece of the PIE Yesterday President of Ukraine and Moldova, had a meeting with EDEN.

最後、但並不重要的。昨天最好的一項消息是:e烏克蘭和e摩爾瓦多共和國的總統昨天有一場在EDEN的會議。

1. Ukraine will lose the fight in Northern Basarabia. Moldova will take the initiative.
2. Moldova will attack and conquer Dnepro
3. Moldova may attack Silver or Sloboda in order to help Ukraine"

1. e烏克蘭將失去Northern Basarabia土地,e摩爾瓦多共和國將取得該區塊的行使權。
2. e摩爾瓦多共和國將攻擊並占領Dnepro (e烏克蘭領土)
3. e摩爾瓦多共和國將為了e烏克蘭攻擊Silver或Sloboda。

EDEN demanded peace and Ukraine prommised as usual to listen "EDEN's ORDERS"
EDEN要求和平並且e烏克蘭承諾要如同往常地聽「EDEN的命令」


This being said... JUST WATCH )
這代表著:等著看吧


http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/29884
連結為e烏克蘭和e摩爾瓦多共和國的戰場連結


And they won, with... pfff ... 84-4 )) This not seems a peace proposal at all🙂 and definitely not EDEN's decision and ORDER🙂
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002616685
然後他們以84比4的差距贏了。這看來不在和平協議中:)並且毫無疑問地也不是EDEN的決定和命令


EDEN do your JOB or you will loose all the FEW countries that still fight for your cause.

EDEN,做你的工作或者你將失去所有為了你的大業而戰的「小」國家

FAIL Ukraine!!!!
放掉e烏克蘭吧!

Do you think Ukraine still deserves to be part of EDEN? This is the kind of ally you need?

你認為e烏克蘭仍然值得成為EDEN的一部分?你需要這種盟友?

Please VOTE in your comments so we can now the world's opinion

請求V讓我們來看見e世界人們的意見


Don't forget, this is just a GAME, ment to be enjoyed and to help us have some fun.

別忘了,這只是個「遊戲」,意思是(遊戲是要)讓我們享受和得到樂趣的

Please VOTE and SHOUT this article so as many people can see it.

請求V和SHOUT這篇文章讓更多人可以看見它!


Best Regards,
Tamas Vlad

最佳的問候
Tamas Vlad



我並沒有翻譯接下來的重點評論,好啦老實說我也不知道我們和這幾個國家的關係是什麼(被巴),就當作給大家看看國際的報紙(順便讓我練英文)這樣。XD

I didn't translate the under comments so that just as an international newspaper for everyone to read. (And also practice my English. XD )