[Don] Lessons learned
Khutawyra101
Hello Eire!
It’s been a fun few days, not as much of fun as we probably wanted, but better than what we had before. Our Airstrike on North Korea was an expected event to happen at this point of development of our country. We’ve been growing in numbers when it comes to damage, people in the Republic and most importantly we’ve been improving our internal organization for the past several months.
The fruit of that hard work is having more than 20 active soldiers who can when needed provide huge amounts of damage and accomplish the goals set. We’re building on the strong foundation of our history, reputation and smart use of game mechanics. We’re still very limited, but I believe we’re going to improve much more.
Airstrike on North Korea
Before the Airstrike happened we’ve reached the point in which we need to take the next step to give people something to fight for. We’ve been looking for available targets for weeks, even months, but nothing good ever came. There wasn’t some great goal, strategy or planning behind Airstrike on North Korea, we just went for it. Even before the Airstrike we knew it’s gonna be hard to land and have some serious battle against much stronger opponent, but we still wanted to see where we are.
I think we can draw several important conclusions after the airstrike. Main conclusion is that we’ve improved a lot since the last time we had an actual war. Second conclusion is that this game has turned much more into pay2win and smart use of bots. Sadly, Admins aren’t really doing much to stop that as they probably consider this kind of playing style as the most profitable one.
It’s really hard to stay motivated and keep working when you can lose by someone who has too many real money, or scripts which work like a gem any time they need some free damage. We’ve had real people behind our attack, real Irish soldiers, brave fighters who were ready to fight much stronger side in a fair way and we’ve faced the other side with bot army and huge amounts of money being spent in the battles. It’s all part of the game and that’s the way we should see it. The only thing we can is learn the lessons and adopt to improve our own side. Each country works with what they have. We don’t have scripts, we don’t have bots, but we have something which might not win us battles, but will surely provide much more fun. Because, what’s the point of winning if you have no one to share your happiness with?
Finally, we’ll have to regroup now, organize even better and maximize our own strengths to be better prepared in the future. Romania and China provided a good fight, we just hoped it would last for longer time.
Last and the most important conclusion we can make is that our allies aren’t nearly as organized or ready for a fight as we thought, but let’s leave this topic for the next part of the article.
You can’t score if you don’t shoot
While we’ve been building our community we did many strikes for our allies, we were always there when they needed our help. I don’t remember the last time we said ‘No’ to our allies and I’m proud on that. Ireland is known for being a good ally. We even fund other country’s and their projects, we’re honestly looking to help a friend in need. When it comes to helping allies I can surely say that there’s no one who did more for their friends than Ireland. Especially when you take our size into consideration.
It’s natural that we’ve been expecting to receive the same treatment by them. However, it didn’t happen. I’m still trying to figure out what was wrong, but before we’ve placed some CO’s almost no one (cheers to the few individuals) didn’t come to help us out and gives us a push when we needed it. If that happened we’d probably fight even stronger and hit harder than we did.
There are two reasons for this. First one is the fact that this game is based on the individuals, citizens who take care of themselves and individual countries who are taking care only for themselves too. TP medals are one of the main reason behind it. We couldn’t believe that there were two Epics in the same time we had a battle we considered to be important ones. It’s incredibly sad that happens, especially if you’re, like me, one of those who plays this game for years and remember how it used to be. Obviously things changed, so we’ll have to change out attitude towards our allies as well. Considering the current gameplay of Erepublik this is going to be hard to change unless there are charismatic leadership who enjoy fighting for their allies and push their nations to do so. Until that happens everyone will just keep farming in their TW’s and open battles while their allies need help. The game is in a sad state and money driven only. Hopefully Admins will realize that long termly that will kill the game. Is it that hard to realize people would be buying much more if they’d have something to fight for except TP medals and Prestige points?
The second reason behind lack of help by our allies is most likely the organization of ‘our side’ if we can call it that way after today. While there are messages which includes different Governments of ‘Anti Asteria’ countries there’s not much use by that. I can’t comprehend why is there no central organization such as a real HQ, a formal alliance which would actually have people in charge of military strategy and long term planning.
I’ve seen how the current HQ’s are working and it’s impossible to work that way and still defeat enemy who does everything we should be doing. Posting battle Prio’s in a message no one cares about except when they require help is no use to anyone involved. We should either dissolve that and proclaim neutrality or do things the right way.
Our side needs a formal alliance, roles within the alliance and rules being respected by its members. Being a member of an alliance should bring many obligations and it should be functioning as an army with highly organized and well planned actions & goals. We don’t have it and honestly I don’t see that happening any time soon.
Is there any more love?
The main reason I absolutely love Ireland is that we actually care for our allies. Our people enjoy fighting for them and helping them. In the same time we have several military masterminds who are very happy to make plans and organize stuff. And they do it well. We have that unique set of strength in people we’ve gathered under the Irish banners. That’s probably the only reason which keeps me playing.
However, it seems like the rest of the World has forgotten about love for their allies or making plans. Last few months, or even years have been simply working along as things happen. There are no long term plans, there’s no strategy or any kind of united diplomacy by our allies. We’re miles away from Asteria and it looks like there’s no one who even cares about it. We’re relying on people spending tons of money to place CO’s and win few battles after which we just lose again and go into the period of losing the battles until someone with the cash shows up again. That strategy would only make sense if it would be some transition phase to the organized alliance and bunch of friends who would coordinate and make plans together.
It will be interesting to see what’s gonna happen with all of this in the future, but if things doesn’t change we’ll take the steps required to keep growing. Maybe it’s time to care just for Ireland and adopt to the modern game. I hope it’s not, but we’re being pushed in the corner right now. Because, what’s the point in doing anything else?
Luck of the Irish
We’ve built something great in here. In the given situation of the game we’ve raised troops that still live and play like in the good old times, with pride and passion. I’d rather have that than the whole Chinese army and Romanian CO even if that means we’ll lose few battles and wars.
We can be proud of our community which showed incredible support and togetherness in this war and now there’s even more motive for us all who try to organize things internally to keep doing the same. I’m moving back to making money for our citizen and will have no packs for a while. I simply don’t want to spent hardly gained RL money on a game which supports the current situation. Don’t misunderstand me, I’ll be more active than ever, just focused on other things.
Yours,
Don
Comments
o7
I don’t remember the last time we said ‘No’ to our allies and I’m proud on that. Ireland is known for being a good ally.
puppets
If you say so..
Your ally is in the neighbour, completely broken and forgotten. There you can see how Asteria help their allies.
not so long time ago ur ally was in far more worse conditions.
I don't know what you mean. Ireland was under Peru, we called Croatia, they came and removed Peru. Who removed Colombia from UK? Who removed USA from UK? Serbia signed MPP with Colombia when they attacked UK. USA fled from UK only when Croatia went there for TW, these are the facts.
Now three anti-Asteria countries are on UK and none of you think about helping them. This is something that could never happen to Ireland.
i said ur ally, seems u didnt understand me. nothing more to say
My bad I don't know which of Ireland's ally you talk about who we should had helped in your opinion. Ireland is not so strong country that we could liberate any one of our allies from the year long deletions Asteria used to do. Anyway you ignored what I said.
You have only one true allied country in the game. I believe you spent most of recent history telling them how wrong they were to leave you. Well, now, same advice for you 🙂
There's only one slight difference buddy, we didn't leave anyone.
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there are always someone that their comment has to do nothing with the topic!
Bob Boblo is a UK citizen and claimed Deity. I am doing my Part as a Dioist to take a poo on his name.
so funny
o7
Just to ad😛
American flag in the article, along the Irish one is there for a reason. They were the only ones who fought for us organized today.
the third reason is day 4000, erep birthday and black Friday, wrong time to pick a fight, everybody is trying to strengthen his/hers acc...
going head on, on the strongest erep nation with 20 fighters and no plan is.... I don't have word for it and I don't see a point in it... waste of resources unless you/girls just wanna have fun 😉
We just wanted to do a mad thing, we hoped it will get support, but it didn't. It doesn't mean that the rest of the article is wrong though. Alliance coordination, planning and tactics are lowest ever in this game by our side.
I understand your disappointment but you wrote only 3 correct things:
1. Ireland is a great ally
2. The game is run by bots, scripts and money
3. Our side, so called "anti-Asteria" needs better coordination.
Everything else makes no sense. You were expecting support from allies? With what? Did you informed your allies about your plan? Was it the best timing for the war like that (3x ebs promotion, day 4000 events, Halloween weekly challenge)? You decided to attack game's only empire with several freeloaders and tons of CO and bots alone?! Plus, they didn't have any great war atm and Cro, Greece, Chile and Arg fought Serbia, Bulgaria, Poland and Fyrom in Spain.
Only logical explanation for your AS was - fan. And now you wrote that you expected allies to help you and then what? Lose again in the next week for few days of war without plan or goal? Great strategy.
Please, be serious.
P.s. javi se na Telegram, neke stvari nisu za javnu objavu.
Pričat ćemo detaljnije na Telegramu..
This was an attack to have fun, a bit of it was to drain the Asteria away from the Spanish front, but major reason for it is a pure, old school fun. I fought for lesser reasons for my allies.
:rotocafe:
Did you as albania right? (Talking about facing bots army and scripts)
Always Albania, Albania, Albania... Asteria isn't full of bots? Where is community in China? Chinese don't even have access to erep...
Nor do they have a discord channel!
Are you living in China? The game has been unblocked for years, don't pretend you are a Chinese expert LOL
and why is it a must to use discord? We have our own communication tools within the community and we communicated with allies via other messengers. Every community has their own ways of communication, and the world exists even when it doesn't work exactly the same as you assume. A civilized person just don't inflict his/her own value on others 😉 otherwise it is a barbarian instead.
Well I know from somebody who was in China. But it is a fact that erep was blocked for years, and the legend characters don't seem to miss those years. From these characters I have never seen any human interaction, don't try to feed me with BS that real players are playing with them.
Then you should probably need to talk to foreigners who actually came to China and work 🙂 There are many ways to access the sites even they are blocked. and tbh we don't need to convince people like you that our community exists 😃 have fun!
last but not least, don't be a frog in a well 😉
連台灣人不否認中國有機器帳戶。你不需使我信服, 不要使我信服, 只要在自己界裡做什麼, 那為什麼來這裡給我說?
克罗地亚说你们打得很无谓, 克罗地亚能代表你吗?
台湾和中国无论在游戏和现实从来都是不同的政府和体制, 不了解也不代表我们, 反之亦然
连这个基本的事实都未搞清楚你就别搞笑了吧 XD
每个人都是独立的个体, 有权去发表自己的想法,
一个台湾人的想法可以跟你一样但也不代表是事实,
继续当你的井底之蛙吧 😛
我也想這一次我們打得很無謂,克羅地亞沒錯。你裝作我是愚昧,前誰? 我知道,你知道連外人可能看機器帳戶。或者你是說Asteria聲稱阿爾巴尼亞有機器人也是偽造因為他們不能知道? 這才是可笑了 XD
你还是说英文吧...中文说得不知所云...
我想你错重点了, 克罗地亚说对了, 不代表他们能代表你, 也不代表他们等於你
你"知道"只是你的想法, 正如你一直装专家说中国上不了游戏,
证据是啥? 你"知道"就是证据, 你人不在中国, 你说的"朋友"曾经在中国
我本人就正在中国, 能上游戏, 你连解封了几多年都不知道, 你"知道"有毛用?
至於你一直说我们都是bot, 请快点举报啊井底之蛙
我"知道"你就只是在刷存在而已...XD
這種想法太自以為是,世界不是非此即彼的
我不知道了中國解封, 你說解封了我相信你。但你說沒有bot, 我簡單不相信你, 抱歉。你會說我是井底之蛙, 是你的想法, 我的是你只找藉口而已。當然我沒有證據, 但你也沒有。為什麼要相信你?
**## %#%#%%# **### ? #!!! ))) 😃 2@@&&@& VSVVS@@@&!!@^@😁# lmao
這跟要證明神存在一樣難。你不如直接拿幾個帳號當例子,解釋為何覺得他們是BOT吧
The best article I've read in a while in eRep! Talking about reality in the game, this is a real deal. All of those u wrote are real but I will add something :
we shouldn't AS a country that is in the middle of assteria neighbors! I think our coordination wasn't on level plus the time we decided to AS wasn't the right one as some mentioned above (because of day 4000 and halloween challenge.) everything else that u said describes exactly the situation right now.
Also I will say that Ireland is the best country I've played in this game! It really give me something that even my RL national country didn't gave me in this game.
Real conversations, Real work, Real wars, Real people !
o7
...the only country that are really active on anti-assteria side I think are Croatia and Greece, we can see a really organised work from both of them! Chile I think lost the interest on Europe since they're in Andes, Turkey is good farming and this is reality on our side!
I agree, it wasn't a war for anything else than a simple fun. Just a good old attacking the opponents. Next time we'll have to sit and plan much better than we (not) did now.
Papi, i don't know if we need an alliance, I think is better communication and organization with our allies for a faster and harder response.
"Our side" is the under-dogs.
The side where efficiency and strategy matter.
Where passionate causes matter.
We're not the side of "pleasure cruises".
This AS didn't have a cause EDENs could get passionate about.
It wasn't an efficient use of resources, and didn't fit into any grander alliance strategy.
Our allies go to great lengths to pick us up when we are down. Or thrust us forward as part of a coordinated strategy. But they can't hold us aloft for the sake of fun/glory alone.
This AS was pretty much the same as our side organization, just for the sake of it