[CP] Multi threat/Amenaza de multi [EN/ES]
Bank of eCuba
Greetings, citizens of eCuba,
before we start, I just want to say that this article is NOT made for any propaganda or private purposes. Yes, it will be informing about acts of one opposition party. However, as an elected representative of our people, it is my duty to defend our democracy, protect our citizens from internal threats, and inform about all serious attempts to destroy the society we have here. I believe all the main parties here claim to protect democracy and Cuba. And if the democracy and Cuba are threatened, I believe we should all work united to eliminate such a threat.
Yesterday, I have noticed we have a lot of new citizens. In Cuba, it is generally a suspicious thing, so I decided to investigate these following citizens:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037256
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037263
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037266
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037275
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037277
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037283
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037289
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037302
Turns out, most of them joined one specific party, Partit del Furs, and they befriended one of their leaders, Naboal. What is suspicious about it, you might ask? Well, for a long time, Partit del Furs is 6th party, which means they are unable to send their Congressmembers to the Congress (they however do so thanks to the agreements with other parties). However, with these new members, Partit del Furs would finally get to the 5th place, and they could send their Congressmembers directly.
Of course, it was still possible that all of these are new players, who decided to help their friends by joining the game (as we see it quite often in other parties). However, after few tickets were send, it turned out this case is different. All these accounts were banned, and Partit del Furs, who was almost Top5 for a while, fell back.
What should we do, as citizens of Cuba?
First of all, I would like to ask all our citizens to be on high alert and report all the suspicious accounts they will see. Congress elections are coming, and as you can see, this time people are not afraid to fight dirty.
Second of all, I would like to ask representatives of Partit del Furs to explain this incident to our citizens. Yes, we all know people all across the political spectrum were able to make multies in the past and no articles were made about that. However, this attempt is quite different thanks to its massive size and timing. And I think citizens deserve to know your explanation and opinion. Otherwise, there will be no reason to trust you anymore. And I think it would be a sad outcome.
Versión en español fue creado por un traductor. Pido disculpas de antemano por este complicaciones.
Saludos, ciudadanos de eCuba,
antes de empezar, quiero decir que este artículo no está hecho para fines privados ni propaganda. Sí, iremos informando sobre los actos de un partido de la oposición. Sin embargo, como representante de nuestro pueblo, es mi deber defender nuestra democracia, proteger a nuestros ciudadanos de amenazas internas e informar acerca de todos los intentos serios para destruir la sociedad que tenemos aquí. Creo que todos los partidos pretenden proteger democracia y Cuba. Y si se amenazaron la democracia y Cuba, creo que todos debemos trabajar Unidos para eliminar dicha amenaza.
Ayer, he notado que tiene un montón de nuevos ciudadanos. En Cuba, es generalmente una cosa sospechosa, así que decidí investigar a los siguientes ciudadanos:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037256
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037263
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037266
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037275
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037277
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037283
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037289
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9037302
Aparentemente, la mayoría de ellos se unieron a un partido específico, Partit del Furs, y trabó amistad con uno de sus líderes, Naboal. Lo que es sospechoso, puede pedir? Así, durante un largo tiempo, Partit del Furs es la 6a parte, lo que significa que no pueden enviar a sus Congressmembers al congreso (que sin embargo hacerlo gracias a los acuerdos con otras partes). Sin embargo, con estos nuevos miembros, Partit del Furs podría finalmente llegar al 5º lugar, y podrían enviar sus Congressmembers directamente.
Por supuesto, todavía era posible que todos estos son nuevos jugadores, que decidió ayudar a sus amigos por unirse al juego (como lo vemos muy a menudo en otras partes). Sin embargo, tras unos boletos fueron enviar, resultó que este caso es diferente. Todos estos relatos fueron prohibidas, y el Partit del Furs, quien fue casi Top5 durante un tiempo, retrocedió.
Lo que debemos hacer, como ciudadanos de Cuba?
En primer lugar, me gustaría pedir a todos nuestros ciudadanos a estar alerta y comunicar todas las cuentas sospechosas verán. El congreso se celebrarán elecciones y, como puede ver, esta vez la gente no tiene miedo a la lucha sucia.
En segundo lugar, quisiera preguntar a los representantes de Partit del Furs para explicar este incidente a nuestros ciudadanos. Sí, todos sabemos que personas de todo el espectro político fueron capaces de hacer multies en el pasado y no hay ningún artículo que se hicieron acerca de eso. Sin embargo, este intento es muy diferente gracias a su enorme tamaño y distribución. Y creo que los ciudadanos merecen saber su explicación y opinión. De lo contrario, no habrá razón para confiar en usted más. Y creo que sería un triste resultado.
Comments
All of them have been banned
I hadn't seen you had already mentioned it.
Well, as you say, the only solution here is to keep on sending tickets, and let the admins decide..Wwe can't do more, but we mustn't do less than that
you have the answer just right now i had a family dinner (my nephew made 6 years) i didnt saw this article until now.
My ticket is still unasnwered - oh, well, I guess I tried 😃 .
o7 nice article, i hope eCuba will receive an explaination if it wa someone inside the party creating the multies.
Good job!
Too much silence... if they were innocent they would't have anything to hide, right?
you have the answer just right now i had a family dinner (my nephew made 6 years) i didnt saw this article until now.
Un artículo oficial del Estado de Cuba cuya única finalidad es tirar mierda a partidos de la oposición; acusando falsamente de cosas que aún no se demostraron, y que no tiene ni que ser, lo que el presidente dice. ¿Acaso esto no es un uso indebido de los medios y los cargos públicos?.
Si lo deseas puedo postear artículos que yo mismo he realizado a lo largo de mi tiempo aquí mostrando como el MPS/PRC/PL y sus aliados políticos crean multicuentas y hacen cualquier tipo de artimaña política para entrar en el Top5. ¿Prefieres que te pase un borrador de un artículo y lo publicas en la Org?
Proof 1: http://prnt.sc/c7xrck
Proof 2 : The article itself
If this country is in PTO danger, people deserve to know, don't you think?
And have those things you mentioned happened during my presidency? If some other party created several multiaccounts at the same time, please, do let me know. But I think I would have noticed that.
If you really defend democracy and sovereignity of eCuba, you should rather denounce these schemes of PdF and not support them. All in all, they still have a chance to clear their name - they just need to explain to the public what the hell happened. I'm also curious to know, you are not?
PL:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8833089
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8833088
http://www.erepublik.com/es/citizen/profile/8760747
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8805684
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8807053
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8812779
http://www.erepublik.com/es/citizen/profile/8808043
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8828579
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8828578
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8971949
MPS:
http://www.erepublik.com/es/citizen/profile/8687556
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8812779
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8814524
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8816956
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8823101
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8827089
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8912461
PRC:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8814524
http://www.erepublik.com/es/citizen/profile/8873416
http://www.erepublik.com/es/citizen/profile/8876862
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8878263
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8878642
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8878735
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8878953
http://www.erepublik.com/es/citizen/profile/8879279
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8879325
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8879444
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/9024193
Anarchy Cuba:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8808052
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8808924
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8808920
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8820401
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8820413
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8820414
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8827332
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8827089
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8832388
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8832603
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8832628
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8832632
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8832995
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8832996
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8863835
BONUS:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2579749/1/20
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2579183/1/20
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2567788/1/20
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2567345/1/20
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2551049/1/20
And have those things you mentioned happened during my presidency?
We can make similar lists for PCC and PSP too, don't worry. But you do not seem to understand the principle of presidency(although you were a president once), so let me explain it to you once again:
If president notices a threat to security during his term, he will inform the public and do his best to stop such a threat. This month, we are facing a potential PTO attempt from some members of Partit del Furs. Do you think we should ignore this fact? Or do you even support it? I hope not, because I believe you like democracy as much as I do.
And since you like BONUSES so much:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ecuba-and-multi-accounts--2605517/1/20
So since you started to argue so heavily, I really have to ask you:
Do you recognize this recent multi-account attempt as a threat and danger posed by Partit del Furs? If you do not recognize it as a threat, do you support it? If not, I apologize to you.
Si alguien hace 10 multicuentas con este link:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Janty+F
Aparecerá que 10 nuevas cuentas tienen como amigo a Janty F, sin que este tenga nada que ver; perfecto para hacer un artículo contra Janty F por ser un creador de multicuentas, o incluso el intento de banear a Janty F.
¿Te parece eso suficiente prueba? Si nadie fue tempobaneado o permabaneado, no quiere decir que ESE ALGUIEN sea el creador de las multicuentas, ni yo (Sir Cocodrile) ni Naboal han sido tempobaneados o permabaneados; así que eso indica que los Admins no tienen pruebas contra nostros.
Okay, so you do not recognize any multi-threat. Good to know.
BONUS:
Sir Cocodrile Day 3,157, 03:10
I send friend request to the news... that is a crime?
... in the past you admitted you added those multi-accounts willingly and it was your own decision. So do not talk about referral links in your case, please, because it is a lie 🙂 .
BONUS 2:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12QJZyNk7pu0X7Mrr52wkA95_vCPfXIryji6oZp6T9uo/edit?usp=sharing
Así es, yo mando petición de amistad; pero (por si nuestro CP es tan ignorante para no saber esto) si alguien es un referido, aparece la amistad predeterminada entre él y el Referrer. Por tanto no es necesario enviar o aceptar ningún tipo de amistad entre ellos.
De todas formas; tu me acusas de tener multicuentas, de nuevo; ¿Por que no he sido tempobaneado o permabaneado? Los únicos que fueron aquí tempobaneados de Cuba fue tu amigo de coalición Bradley Manney. Por el uso y creación de multicuentas. https://www.erepublik.com/es/citizen/profile/8624349
PS: 43 multicuentas de vuestra coalición pilladas por mi, ¿A las 50 me dais un premio?
I'm not accusing you of anything, only your own paranoia does.
But it looks like you purposefully ignore all the multies from your political spectrum. Are you ashamed of them? Why don't you show them too 😉 ? I'm sure the list would be also quite big 🙂 .
Thanks for the info- we need to hear the hard news too. Yep- let's have that explanation, please...
Maybe is the 3r time that i have to deal with this kind of actions, in egypt edahi/aligual tried things like that, someone starts doing multi accounts with my referal link trying to harm y reputation or even ban me...and again he/them failed with it.
Here you have the ticket i send to the admins just at the moment i saw that 4 or 5 players entered with my referal link: (maybe it was me who ban them all, not you)
http://prntscr.com/c891se
So, here you had the explanations you wanted. I've been attacked by someone who wanted me to harm my "name" or ban my account and your governement looks like helped him/them to reach his objectives by doing this article/propaganda what make me think that maybe one of your mates did that which it would be a very bad way of trying to win elections in my opinion.
And finally i must say that PdF has no fear to be top6, we have a permament pact with PCC and PSP to share sites so we dont have any special need to become as fast as we can a top5 party.
1) Why don't you show the entire ticket? It would certainly be interesting to see, who do you think is suspicious for these things, no? Atleast we could see if your suspicions are even true.
2) it is interesting that the response to your ticket (last update) came 7 hours BEFORE you send the ticket (you send the ticket at 12:28 AM and the response came at 5:28 AM at the same time). Unless time travel or Photoshop is involved, there is no reasonable explanation for such a phenomenon. I even checked all my tickets and I never had such a bug in them (even while writing with the same admin). Of course, there is no reason for me to believe your screenshot is fake, but this oddity is making it quite suspicious.
3) If you have any proofs my government created these multiaccounts, please provide them at once. All I saw was eight new multiaccounts joining yourparty, so I immediately stepped up, sent a ticket (even before you did) and decided to warn the public.
All in all, thank you for providing an explanation. It is up to readers to make their own mind about this incident. Hopefully this incident will not repeat itself.
1) "Maybe is the 3r time that i have to deal with this kind of actions, in egypt edahi/aligual tried things like that, someone starts doing multi accounts with my referal link trying to harm y reputation or even ban me...and again he/them failed with it."
Question: Why don't you show the entire ticket?
Answer: Maybe is the 3r time that i have to deal with this kind of actions, in egypt edahi/aligual tried things like that, someone starts doing multi accounts with my referal link trying to harm y reputation or even ban me...and again he/them failed with it.
- nope, the answer and the question don't match at all 😉 .
2) Oops, sorry, got confused by time system 😃 . Anyway, my ticket got sent sooner, that stands true 😉 .
Jajajaja hace la denuncia hoy cuando ya hace rato fueron baneadas las cuentas. La peor coartada de la historia
jajajaja hihihiiii anda vuelve a mirar el ticket donde pone: 12:28 AM repito AM, por si aun no ha quedado claro AM, o sea, que fué hace casi 24 horas, ayer noche que pasadas las 12 ja son dia 20 y la respuesta fué hoy por la madrugada europea (en menos de 5 horas me contestaron, tienes tú un ticket donde os hayan respondido antes que a mi? lo dudo porque he sido muy rapido y diligente con el tema, no me gusta la gente que hace trampas o intenta cosas rastreras como esta.
Resumiendo, esto que has hecho ahora se le llama FAIL.
Mi art tiene mas de 24 hs jajja ademas no expñicas xq se unieron a tu partido favorecoendote para el top 5.
Para que parezca que lo he hecho yo o uno de los de PdF evidentmente. por la misma razón que han salido como referenciados mios la mayoria...se le llama "colgar el muerto a otro" dejado un sinfin de pistas falsas expresamente para inculpar a otro que es el objetivo principal y que con este articulo este gobierno ha sido complice de esta estrategia, un 10 para ellos y su honradez.
Porque no te preguntas porque he enviado ticket a los que estaban sumando en mi partido si en teoria según la este articulo el objetivo de estas multis seria llegar al top5? fuck logic un poquito no?
Porque ya estaban baneadas a esa hora hermano, aca no nos chupamos el dedo. Que casualidad que tus supuestos enemigos que beneficien subiendo tu partido al top5 no??? Encima te dieron gold de referido??
pues mi ticket es anterior a sus baneaos porque cuando lo mandé yo esos walking deads de la vida estabn vivitos y coleando o sea que no estaban baneados a esa hora y para tu información SÍ los admins no me quitaron ni un gold de esos referenciados y los he cobrado ya, más razón para creerme en que yo no tube nada que ver con ello, los admins lo saben y por eso ni tengo ban ni nada hasta me habrán dejado mel gold por las molestias de tener que lidiar con gentuza que hace estas cosas que como ya he dicho antes no es la primera vez, tengo la piel curtido de ello.
Pues mi art tenía 24 horas más que tu supuesta denuncia y era top5, por lo que mi ticket también era anterior, y no las multis ya estaban baneadas hace rato. No publico el ticket porque es ilegal
cuando hice el ticket no estbaan baneadas porque para eso envié el ticket, si no me crees no es mi problema, no tengo que demostrarte nada a tí ni a nadie.
Tampoco te sirve lo que dicen los admins al no hacer nada a mi cuenta luego tu creerás lo que te convenga no lo que se tenga más probabilidades de ser cierto luego seguir esta conversacion no tiene sentido, yo no discuto por gusto y tampoco suelo hacerlo con paredes.
A mi esto, me parece tan obvio q no puede ser verdad.
Si de verdad Naboal kisiera haber hecho multies, no habría sido tan claro y sencillo.
Estoy con Naboal q alguien se ha tomado las molestias de hacer esto para perjudicar al PdF
PdF no tiene necesidad de todo esto, ya q tiene con la coalición cuanto menos 4 congresistas asegurados.
Esto es obra de alguien q kieres perjudicarles.
Si fuera de la coalición MPS-PRC-PL, preguntaría a los enemigos de PdF en egipto a ver si tuvieran algo q ver. Y me consta la buena relación entre esta coalición y los enemigos anteriormente citados
Por otro lado, me parece deplorable q el Gobierno use el boletín oficial para esto, cuando no ha usado éste para cosas en las q si el o debiera haberlo hecho.
Utilizar un boletín oficial para esto y no para las cosas explicitas del gobierno, cuanto menos es sorprendente
So we can't use official newspapers to warn people about PTO attempts? Wow... allright 😮
No us crec tant estupids com per a pensar que si volguerem fer un PTO el fariem d'una manera tant pueril.
Potser estic equivocat.
Who know what the methods of PdF are... you are always so silent in the Congress and public 😶
Btw. I like how this comment comes from a Congressmember, who has plenty interesting ideas how to change taxes, and yet is completely unable to present them in Congress.
Lamentable que se hagan multis, y lamentable también usar un periódico oficial para acusar a un partido. Bien que se usa para denunciar multis, pero para echar mierdas sobre otros partidos es mejor usar un periódico personal.
There was a multi threat and I asked PdF for explanation. They gave me their explanation, and I respect that. If I wouldn't do that, the situation would be much worse.
As a former president you should probably know what are presidents supposed to do if democracy is threatened - inform the public and wait for explanation.
Esto es ya lo que faltaba por ver de este gobierno, ahora a usar medios públicos para contar mentiras de un partido de la oposición, por que tienen miedo de salir del TOP. Por favor Sr Janty F preocupese de eCuba y no mal gaste su tiempo en mentiras.
There was a multi threat and I asked PdF for explanation. They gave me their explanation, and I respect that. If I wouldn't do that, the situation would be much worse.
President is here to protect this nation from all threats. Even if my own aprty made 8 multiaccounts to boos our numbers, I would have wrote this article and asked them for explanation. I hate multies, and when I see a bunch of them, I just do what I think is right. If you think public shouldn't be informed about this incident, it is your opinion.
Chau Multis... que lloren los de siempre.
Que triste sacar estas mentiras...
Este gobierno ha perdido mi res però
Have you even read Naboal comment and my comment under that?
Look, if you were a president and PdL suddenly gain 8 new members with lvl 20, you would write an article like this too. Citizens need to be informed about multi-account threat and it was my duty to inform them. Your party offered a reasonable explanation of this incident, and I respect the honesty with which you talked to me. If I haven't talked about this situation, the effect would be much worse, trust me (especially if those multies weren't made by PdF - with such numbers, they could easily PTO you :/ ).
*respeto
You have trouble with that word, don't you 😉 ?
Creo que todo el embrollo de las multis y las ciudadanías están relacionados con estos dos hilos:
I think all this fraud of multis and citizenships have relationship with this 2 threads:
https://www.erepublik.com/es/article/para-que-sirve-la-comisi-n-de-inmigraci-n-multicuentas-2609372/1/20
https://www.erepublik.com/es/article/inscripciones-clases-especular-con-orgs-mercado-monetario-2609728/1/20
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