[AMM] Official Statement on Cancer
00AngryMobMan00
(This is a rather long article, sorry....)
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eCanada,
Listen up, and listen well - for I am only going to talk about this story once, and once only. What I am going to do in this article, is somewhat "dissect" the whole cancer situation - bit by bit - and eventually explain to you why Saltydog is half-right, with his claims against me (you'll understand what I mean by this - hopefully - at the end of this article.
So to properly understand the entire situation, you really need to understand my "mentality" at the time, of the whole incident - as there were huge real life issues for me, during this time - as I will explain now.
The Back-Story
So the entire series of events, is based around one HUGE REAL LIFE event (which only very few people actually know about - I think, maybe one or two people?) - and you will see why.
At the beginning of the summer (mid June) of 2010, I had basically “come out of the closet” to my family and friends (so to speak) - and the fair amount of people who know me on IRC, can attest to this whole situation being tough for me.
Now, my family (who is a very strict Christian family, mind you - almost to the point of extremist orthodox) was not pleased with this - in fact, they were outright FURIOUS about this (like I said, they were strict). They were so furious, that they almost decided to “disown” me (and when I say “almost”, I mean that decided that they would not talk to me, would not associate with me, would not respond back to my questions, and would do “next to nothing” for me (i.e. minimal favours, errands, and so forth), etc.)!
The situation did not stop there though, it only got worse. My grandparents, cousins, aunts, and uncles, all started taking “sides” on the whole situation... and for the most part (minus 2 people whom I will never forget, in my family), they all took the side of “homosexuality is wrong”.
Because of this, I literally had no one to talk to, and no one to associate with (since, most of my family took on the “almost disown” ideology - and friends can be so unreliable at times), because my family and friends would not give a flying fu*k, about what I did - they literally lost ALL CARE for me.
Now, this whole “almost disown” situation, did not happen over a short period of time, in fact, it lasted for a whole TWO MONTHS. Imagine my mentality then - eight weeks, without having any family members to talk to you... or to care for you... or to even LOVE YOU. Those eight weeks were so brutal and devastating for me - that on MANY OCCASIONS, I was more than willing to take my own life - and I am dead serious when I say that.
So the tl;dr of the back-story, is that for eight weeks, I literally had no one talking to me.... no one “caring for”/loving me.... and beyond all that, I had no one to turn to to ask for advice and for help - no friends and no family. Eight weeks.
Okay, so now you can understand my mentality over that time period - I was in a very “fragile”, and “depressed” state of mind; now keeping all of this in mind, I want you to all try and understand the next part.
The Cancer
This is where Saltydog, is half-right, as I absolutely did have cancer - however, before jumping to any conclusions, I ask you read this section carefully.
June 29th of 2010, is when I officially went to the doctors (for the first time), to get my leg checked out - because (as I stated on IRC), this was about 5-7 days after I had noticed a dull pain in my leg (that steadily got worse and worse - periodically - over the 5-7 day span between the initial pain and the doctor’s office), and I was steadily getting (what I could best describe as) cold/flu type symptoms (i.e. headache, fever, nausea, and so forth).
A couple days later (unfortunately I forget the exact date), I got the test results back (from the initial biopsy - and then subsequently the results from the PET/bone scan), and the doctors had concluded that I had Bone Cancer, and said that they PRESUMED that the cancer seemed to be the type that does not metastasize (we will later see they were wrong about this).
The doctors then scheduled me in for a simple operation (that was based off of an arthroscope procedure - just, they intended to remove something, and not just look at it
😛), that was to take place a few days later. Keep in mind still, my parents, family, and friends - were very minimally supportive about this whole procedure - all the while, I wanted just SOMEONE to talk to... I suppose this is where the trouble began.
So the days passed, and my operation was a success - the doctors were able to “successfully” remove the cancer - and they assumed that it would not come back. But of course, to be sure of this, the doctors kept me in the hospital for a few days, just to make sure (needless to say, my family never visited me in the hospital).
So this is where the whole “scandal” (for lack of better term, I suppose) took place. By the middle/late end of July (about a month after my initial dose of cancer in my leg - and subsequently this was about one month (or five weeks) of having my family not talk to me - I still despise and repent all of them, for being so cruel and cold-hearted in my time of need), I had noticed that the same symptoms had come back, as I had about a month prior. This time, the pain had moved a little more north (although still on the bone in my leg) in my body (I went through the whole procedure a second time - but that is irrelevant at this time).
Again, my family could not care less about my condition.
So I was lost... with all these conflicts and emotions building up inside of me... I had no where else to turn... I was in a time of need, and no one was there to “comfort” me... so I did a jacka*s move, and told the people on IRC that the cancer has spread to my brain.... when it really only spread to another section of my leg (which is where the saltydog “half-right” idea comes in)....
Saltydog is right, that my claims were off the wall.... but he is wrong, where he says I initially faked the cancer, as the primary tumour/cancer cells/whatever you want to call them, were very real... he is right again though, hen he claims my brain cancer story was off the wall.
I used you guys, for my own personal benefit... I was needy for attention... for care... ANYTHING... and I did such a stupid move, to manipulate you all. I still think back today, and regret telling you guys such a story (the brain cancer part)... But for once, in a near five week/six week period.. people were actually showing attention to me, and were showing some “care” for me (to a certain extent - and yes, I know how odd that sounds, having to revert to a virtual world to find attention - but again, refer to “The Back-Story”).
So the tl;dr here, is that I very much had the initial (primary) and metastasized (secondary) cancer cells, both in my leg (in different areas of the leg though) - that itself is not a lie, and is very true. However, I took advantage of you guys, by telling a whopping story about the brain cancer... when it was less severe than that... and I regret it everyday.
You may point out the question “why did I not just say I have bone cancer x2?”.... to that, I can’t conjure up a response... I was in such an unstable “mind state”, that I truly have no idea what I was thinking - why I thought b rain cancer... I still don’t know... back then, I guess I just assumed it was the best way to get people to actually pay attention to the situation, and to actually.. “care”... for me.
The story itself.... after I told the initial tale of brain cancer.... did get too far out of hand... but after i told one thing... I had to keep going with the story, since if I didn’t... I was afraid that people would then lose all faith in me in eRepublik (by faith, I simply mean the attention, and care that people were showing to me), and that I would be stranded (emotionally), in both RL and then eRep (and I didn’t want that to happen). So, the story went further and further, so to speak. It got worse and worse... and I am so sorry, for ever having started this story.
So now comes the question of “what now?”....
What Now?
Well, you’ve now all heard the story - in all of its truthfulness, and exactly how it happened - and I am going to bite the bullet, and take any and all punishments/criticisms/flaming/trolling/whatever you want to do, like a man... no comment from me.
After looking back, I made a series of absolutely terrible mistakes - starting from the most simplest of things (of which could have been avoided, if I had of just thought things through, and had not of been so “needy” for attention).
So what can I do now? At the very least, I’m saying I’m SORRY.... I am completely sorry, for manipulating each and every single one of you... everyone who got entangled within my story. I was an absolute idiot for doing what I did - and as I said, I regret ever doing it (always have, and always will).
So what CAN I do for you eCanada? I am assuming that the vast majority of you will not forgive me - and if you choose not to, I can fully understand, and will not hold it against you. But if you can think of any way that I can PERSONALLY make it up to you - each and every single one of you - then i want you to get in contact with me.. and i’ll do whatever I can, to help “make things better” (so to speak).
But what am I going to do now, you may ask - in terms of my eRepublik “career”?
I leave that up to all of my “superiors”.
@The Canadian Armed Forces (more specifically: PDP, jsboutin, and MaryChan)... As you are well aware, I have already resigned my “high command” positions (PMO and PR officer)... and have reverted to being just a simple platoon executive officer. I leave my fate with the CAF in your hands - if you wish me to resign, I shall.... if you wish to demote me, you can.... if you wish to do nothing, you can.... it is all up to you.
@The CPP (more specifically coolmanos)... I know I have been acting as your “somewhat official” advisor... if you still want me as your advisor, I will gladly stay... if you want me to leave the executive, I will gladly do that.
@Acacia Mason... You have appointed me to be your Deputy Prime Minister, if you do get elected - I leave my fate in your hands to. If you want me to run alongside you, then I will gladly run alongside you, as we have already been doing. If you feel “NO”, that I should not run alongside you, then I am willing to accept that as well, and I will also not hold that against you. I am open either way, yes or no, you just let me know.
@Saltydog, John_Cleese, Yonsil (and any others I may be forgetting? Dominik, Muglack? - in general the people that I called lairs and/or attempted to prove me wrong). Basically, you guys were trying to hit the nail on the head - so to speak. I know exactly what your intentions were, and it was to show what I was doing wrong, and attempting to show that to the public - I don't hold anything you guys said against you, as again, that was my fault. Like I originally stated, I was going through tough times.. and one thing led to another - which you guys, very clearly, picked up on. I apologize deeply for publicly (continually) calling you guys liars - I was simply trying to defend the stuff that I had... well... said. I am well aware that many of you will not forget this/not forgive me about this, and I am fine with that, you have every right to be furious at me. I just hope we can (eventually) find a way to get around this... eventually, hopefully.
@Everyone else... I don’t know what to say to you all.... I was an attention freak... that was in such an unstable “mind state”... who was clearly not thinking properly. As I said, if you forgive me, I will be forever grateful to you. if you choose never to forgive me, I will accept that as well - and will not hold it against you.
Thank you for reading, and hopefully this clears everything up.
Thank you,
AngryMobMan
Comments
AMM
Firstly, thank you for finding the intestinal fortitude to stand forward and be judged. You made a mistake. Guess what...so have I, and so have many many others in this game. Mistakes happen, we regret them, we step back, and we learn from them. Your situation was a difficult one, and one I can not possibly imagine enduring. You found yourself in a very difficult spot and though I can't say I would have done the same thing, I can say that I understand how much you must have been hurt by the actions of your family.
Second, I think it takes great courage to come forward and share the details of your personal life like this. You did not have to do any of this and you certainly had no obligation to anyone to do so. That being said, I think it speaks volumes about your personal character to do what you have done here and take ownership of the judgement that will surely be made. Again...we all make mistakes. Some bigger than others but mistakes nonetheless. Now that you have made this statement, we can all move forward and begin the process of regaining trust. Your not alone in having to own up to mistakes...as I said, I have done so and so have others. Take solace in knowing others have been where you are.
Lastly, I have no plans on dropping you from the ballot. If nothing else, my belief and support of you is strengthened by your decision to do the right thing. You have made an incredibly moral decision to do what you have done here. I want people like this in my cabinet. I want people who can admit when they have done wrong and accept judgement. You have proven to me and everyone else here today that you have the stones to do the right thing when it counts the most. I am very proud of your courage and for that I want nothing more than to continue our campaign together. You deserve a chance at redemption and I am going to give you that chance personally!
You would have gotten all the attention you were craving for by telling the "back story", not by faking cancer. Since you are an oldy like the rest of us you should have known that the only one giving you crap for that would have been Octo_Fail, and nobody cares about him.
That being sai😛 fool me once shame on you, fool me twice ...
If you want to talk to someone about coming out, etc, give me a shout, okay?
Hey Jacobi, thank you for your offer = )
Luckily however, I have been able to patch things up with my family and such since then (i.e. we are now on better terms with one another, and they are certainly more accepting of me).
But if I ever do need help, i'll be sure to send you a shout = )
"I took advantage of you guys, by telling a whopping story about the brain cancer... when it was less severe than that... and I regret it everyday."
And you had the gall to call me a liar for calling you out on such an obvious fabrication.
Leave this game.
"The story itself.... after I told the initial tale of brain cancer.... did get too far out of hand... but after i told one thing... I had to keep going with the story, since if I didn’t... I was afraid that people would then lose all faith in me in eRepublik (by faith, I simply mean the attention, and care that people were showing to me), and that I would be stranded (emotionally), in both RL and then eRep (and I didn’t want that to happen). So, the story went further and further, so to speak. It got worse and worse... and I am so sorry, for ever having started this story."
Thus why I called you a liar saltydog - if I were to give in to this (well you and your accusations), then as I stated before, I would of been deprived of my "care" that I was being shown (a better way to say it, is I was in need of attnetion, yes.. because of terrible real life events that forced me to do what I did - in essence).
But whatever, I came out clean saltydog.
AMM admitted it.
Good job
Let's live our lives.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/mm-campaign-for-eden-6-1755105/1/20
Get out of this game.
You don't deserve to interact with the rest of us.
"Get out of this game.
You don't deserve to interact with the rest of us."
erm, no.
Well since we are all confessing
I once got busy in a BurgerKing bathroom
Crisfire i'd elect you CP for that act alone!
confession: I once confessed to something
Still seems sketchy to me. Like you're trying to soften the severity of your confession. There are still holes and it's a cop-out to simply explain those away with saying that you were in an "unstable mind state". After you've admitted to lying about brain cancer, I'm having a hard time believing you when you talk about the tumour in your leg or your "coming out" story.
That said, you did at least confess to faking the cancer. It would have allowed you to save face had you confessed and apologised earlier. Unfortunately, you allowed the confession to be violently beaten out of you.
meow
Thank you for clearing the air, AMM. Honesty is the best policy as they say. 🙂
~~~Edited a further appology section into it~~~
"Let dead dogs lie." This is an expression I think that is very acceptable for the situation. (Especially seeing Saltydog is the major player for the Anti-AMM movement so it seems)
The past is the past, and like Acacia Mason has said in his first comment, we all make mistakes and do retarded things. Would we be human if we didn't. Don't listen to saltydog or Dominik AMM, you've said what you've had to say, live in peace with the rest of us.
So let the past be the past, and I hope the rest of eCanada, for the sake of eCanada, would just let this rotten corpse of a situation die, and maybe give it somewhat of a PROPER burial!
Since we are all clearing the air, Any comments on the CPP, Code-Y and Multi account use?
Sure, why not Rolo.
I always assumed Code-Y was a multier - I have from day one - ever since he got banned as "Termz" initially for multi accounting (and also ever since he was in the "old" DAL, too). Now, the only thing stopping me from making an article... or even going public about this whole situation with termz, was simply the lack of evidence.
The admins took away all forms of "ways" in which I could find evidence (donation logs, transfers, and so forth) - so I was basically unable to find any evidence about Code-Y being a multi (i.e. who he was a multi with). If I had of found evidence, I would have made an article right away, but since I had no evidence, it would have been a stupid move on my part to publicly accuse someone of multies without having evidence to support my claims.
As for the CPP in general, it was one terrible accident after another - first Termz bringing the whole "multi scandal" to the public, and then Wes Lewis joining the party (and subsequently Julius Caligula).
Needless to say, I attempted to take as much information as I could, from both of them - and bring them to "trial" (at the CPP level - infront of a panel of people, that included Myself, Coolmanos, Roger Griswald, and Tom hagen - all very respectable and trustworthy people).
We initially came to the conclusion, that we would ban Julius from our Forums and IRC (forums he is still banned, IRC I don't think so now - after coolmanos got into power, we decided to remove his IRC ban - since he is now in the UK).
After the weeks went by, the situation got worse and worse with termz (code-Y) - so we (Derakor, Myself, and Coolmanos), all came to the decision to ban Code-Y from our IRC channel (along with killacrazy for 24 hours - due to another reason)... Code-Y didn't like that very much, so he quit the CPP - took all our companies and everything - and is now not a part of the CPP anymore.
Any further questions, Rolo?
AMM, if you could see the inside of the TCO barracks, you'd know we're very gay-friendly. We accept everyone into TCO! o7
I'm waiting for the part where they realize that AMM is the baby Saltydog didn't know he fathered so long ago with his one and only true love before she tragically had to go away to save his life even though its made him bitter ever since...
lol
Can't believe people are defending a guy who faked a "brain cancer"
That's p funny
lol at Crisfire...
omg thats hilarious
AMM is Homo.
AMM is homo, yes yonsil
: P
And I like it. 😛
(Shit, my comment was deleted! 😮
Anyway, we talked on IRC about this. You have my full morale support and I'm also there to listen to you, eHubby!)
"Well since we are all confessing
I once got busy in a BurgerKing bathroom"
YOU SAID YOU'D NEVER TELL!!!
Also, AMM is still full of shit. There isn't a monster in the world who would let a family member lie in a hospital bed by themselves dealing with cancer regardless of the circumstances. Aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents? They'd do "minimal favors" for you but not visit you in the hospital when you're dealing with Cancer not once but twice? And you expect us to believe that? Really?
Well judging by your last story you thought we'd swallow you actually do expect us to believe it.
Hopefully your next article will have the truth.
time to move on time I think........
meaning EVERYONE
I'm not sure how I want to react to this.
Thanks AMM. I know it must be hard on you.
And I am Christian and I do think homosexuality is wrong, but I still believe you are just as an amazing person and would love to work with you in the CAF. If you need anything, any support or someone to talk to, I'm here.
Funny how some people claim to be "Christian", then judge other people for what they do with their own personal lives...Funny how "Christians have to always put their 2 cents in....better to just shut up
That being said I can't discount the possibility that AMM is "fake gay", and an excuse to have mental anguish as an excuse for "faking brain cancer", an a result of "faking any cancer" to begin with...It all stinks, I have lost 2 friends, one to lung cancer, and one to bone cancer that metastasized into blood cancer...
"There is something about Mary Chan" - yes, she's a bigot...and in RL, which is worse that anything done in a game..
Takes guts to admit it. Good thing the actual cancer is gone...
Could've just told us you came out, we're tolerant people for the most part. We may make a few mean jokes, but ultimately, we have accepted it, just as we accepted it with Jacobi and Craig Norman (anybody remember him?).
MaryChan, what is wrong with homosexuality? Because I think the fact you're using the internet is probably forbidden somewhere in the Bible. (just read Leviticus, if you ever committed adultery, you should BURN)
As long as you don't send me pictures of your dong, AMM, I'm fine with you being gay. I understand why you lied, when I was younger I made some silly (albeit not as big) lies as well to get through the problems I had in my family. Saltydog might be harsh on you, but I just wanted the truth, and I'm happy to have received it.
Although, perhaps we should have Jacobi check your truthfulness with his gaydar... *wink, wink*
As a normal person, I do think Christianity is wrong, but I still believe you are an amazing person.
as a woman, you mean dominik? with round booty & buffed tits?
if that's the case, I agree.
"Although, perhaps we should have Jacobi check your truthfulness with his gaydar... *wink, wink*"
We could, yes : P
I would have settle for something much shorter, like "I lied about the brain cancer, I'm sorry".
Thanks for sharing AMM.
AMM, I can understand how hard this must of been for you to write this. It had to have taken a lot of courage to write this long article, but I hope that you realize it was worth it. I'm sorry for doubting you and I know I never should of.
In regards to the whole gay thing,
1-MaryChan........shame.
2-I'm a very strong Christian but am very accepting of gay people. It reminds me of segregation and peoples views on my race back in the day. Ask yourself Mary, it it really right to judge somebody like that.
3-Dominik, gay people are normal people too (I think that's what you were talking about, if not then nvm).
4-AMM, will you bottom with me?
5-I had no idea Jacobi was gay lol.
GOD HATES FAGS
GOD HATES SWEDEN
"3-Dominik, gay people are normal people too (I think that's what you were talking about, if not then nvm)."
No, that is not what I meant. My quip was in reference to Christianity, not homosexuality.
*Secretly thinks all Christians are homophobic gays*
I know AMM is a good guy.
That's it.
Can we talk politic now? = )
AMM your a great guy (and probably will never vote Conservative) but I proudly applause that you had the strength to admit that your story was half a lie. If you ever need to talk to anybody send me message.
Mary, “Judge not, lest you be judged” (Matthew 7:1).
AMM is not broken, he doesn’t need any fixing. Your kind of "help" is the last thing he needs.
Did you know that there is a massive amount of evidence that Paul the Apostle was likely gay. Pick up a book, other than the bible every now and then and you may learn a thing or two.
Actually, you being a woman, shouldn’t be doing all this taking and preaching anyway according to the good book:
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Timothy 2:11 - 14
So shut it.
The cancer thing was a dumb move AMM but If you need anyone for support for the other thing, you know the gays love Cox, just PM any time.
Homosex is no joke.
crisfire's comment kinda made my mind go blank with shock for a minute.
But on another note, if any of you actually care whether he's gay or not, in my mind, that is a facepalm. Sexuality isn't a change in the behavior of the person (other than those exaggerated scenes). I am sure this means lots to AMM, however, the 'gay' part of this article should have no effect on anyone's treatment of AMM.
Beeman 8:2
lol TLDR
(joke aside, i think i kind of believe you?)
lol, sorry Maedoc.... I would have provided a tl;dr, but I wanted to make sure I got all the details across to everyone (sorry!)
: )