[Seanan] A proposal for a State Commune system
Seanan
Greetings Citizens & Comrades,
Background - Skip to The Proposal for tl;dr
During the last Dail term it was decided that this month's rental money from the US was to be invested into infrastructure upgrades for Military Units; I supplied the Dail with my preliminary report of commune infrastructure in the country prior to the decision as to give an informed view of the situation.
My report basically implied that 70,000 IEP would not go very far among the units who truly needed it; partly because all military units studied bar CrOmega are set up as maximum military-output organizations rather than economic organizations. Funding is a confusing matter for anyone not in a command role - as systems are not in the public eye (or even membership's eye), individuals cannot properly assess so simply trust the clogs behind the scenes to keep on turning and give full priority to utilizing the military module.
Providing our soldiers the chance to fully focus on their profession is any military leaders dream - whilst the clogs are actually turning. My report illustrated that Irish military units' clogs need a bit of oil - there has yet to be an accurate investigation into actually how much funds go into communes systems from communal sharing (so why its being suggested as a parameter in the MU incentive planning group... I'll do my best to make sure those funds are not fancifully squandered, ladies & gentlemen!), but without proper publication, it will forever be a confusing topic.
TL
😃R - I propose a State Commune System; open to every Irish citizen regardless of Military Unit or Political Party membership. To pool the Irish commune infrastructure under one roof, to publicize (sensitively) the financial inputs of the system regularly, create a common vested interest and to utilize the designated Monetary Fishing gains allocated to defence by the Department of Finance to enhance the cooperative group's output.
*Using the recent 70,000 IEP rental money as a teething and legacy payment.
Reasonale
Before I start, first order of business should be to mourn the regrettable loss of Minister Appleman after his sudden&unexplained heart-attack.
During 2011 into 2012 - Ireland operated a supply infrastructure which supplied every Irish citizen, regardless of Military Unit or Political Party, Q7 weapons to be used in accordance of the Strike Leader's direction - the supply was regularly done on IRC and ingame. It was a prime example of Socialist Initiative; It was an attractive immigration prospect, It pushed an agenda of Individual choice, It allowed Military Unit proliferation without comprising national coordination, either in the supply or purchase of weapons - the benefit was felt by those who wanted it.
It's 2014 - our treasury cannot, and may never, return to a level which such spending is sustainable. The next best method of distributing to the regular citizen is effective use of commune systems. Supplemented by State, but supported by the people themselves.
This is another Socialist Initiative. While I don't wear red often, at core there are some fundamental principles I believe make up 'e-socialism'; comradeship, fun, open opportunity, creation. While not everyone's cup of tea, a common infrastructure system has more potential to be better funded and more effectively used when the interest group is so large - its Socialist, its also part of a Militarism agenda. There is reason across the political spectrum to support this cause.
Summary; Gather a group of willing operators, establish how transactions will work, if exciting commune - establish current production and current additional input, weekly reports illustrating the top donors (operators, MUs, parties, individuals, etc) & an indication of overall Capacity of the system (my method is 100% = each worker will receive 10 Q7 tanks per day), organize a supply delivery system to rival current tools.
Before getting into the nitty gritty of my proposed roadmap, there are some understanding which will have a significant impact on the end product;
✯ While the proposal would increase the demand for the supply service on the State, the gains from the Monetary Markets are stable (not increasing dramatically), hence subsidy funding is very unlikely to increase. Initially, those benefiting from the subsidy system stand to lose - whilst those outside the subsidy system stand to gain; in the long term, however, the system should balance out or improve.
✯ Encouraging consistent investment would be crucial to success - on the surface a simple concept, but in practice, managing investment can be heavily bias; there is a difference been making an investment and simply donating. If you consider the benefit of every citizen enrolled in the communes as your 'return' then the investor will be content. If prestige is the desired return, a concept of relevance in system has to be a feature. If you're a partisan, well, why invested in anyone other than your own group - along the same lines of anyone wanting to see a financial return. There are hard and solid reasons for a State Commune, but at the core, an ideology which embraces the 'goodness' of communal spirit is a must.
1) Gather Operators
Hard and simple - if they own a Q7 Weapon Company, then they have the ability to open a commune. Renting isn't a luxury anyone can afford, Q7 Companies are barely profitable anyway, so the operators are the first volunteers & benefactors to the people who rely on them.
2) Analysis of current production, worker counts, inputs etc of Operators &/or organizations
Self explained - must know every factor of the system for any hope of management.
3) Work out with Department of Finance the transaction process
In current practice; the Worker clicks 'Work' > Operator gathers all WRM needed to assign Work Click to Q7 Production > Operator then sends the entire Weapon production to MoF > If the operator was unable to meet the entire cost of the WRM, MoF sends back the difference > MoF sends Weapons onto Suppliers > Suppliers supply. In large, requires the Operator to be honest about their expenditure (if they have any - and not just part of their investment) - but MoF isn't going to pay more than basecost (international price) so its never an issue nor has been.
Investment transaction process is more difficult. You can't send to Orgs, so who handles&records the collection? Ideally, a head of organization would - and pass on the bulk & records to the Department of Finance. Then individual donors can cross check in the weekly publication.
4) Weekly Publication
Basically, a league table of donors with a big number in the middle-bottom with the "Capacity" of the system. Separated by a permanent honour to the Operators, a league of most giving Military Unit, a league of most giving Party, a league of most giving Individual. And a link to a spreadsheet with everyone's recorded donation amount.
Rubbish sketch:
5) Supply
The clincher - after all this messing around, how do you determine supply? A State Commune is a subsidy funded adventure - majority of funds from private citizens, but the contract between the receiver and supplier still applies.
Talking as a member of the Army, following State Orders isn't a problem as its the DO and Army HQ is obliged to call soldiers to mobile battles the Taoiseach instructs to. Not every player and military unit wants to be part of a State unit, however.
During the 2011-12 period, with the supply of Q7 weapons to everyone, the principle going on "Free stuff! As many weapons as you can use! As long as you use them - here". It was an individual's choice where to fight, expect one route got them tanks to use. That never interfered with a unit's sovereignty, everyone's on the same side, just helped coordinate our soldiers at an individual level.
Nought so simple with a commune, because working in a commune is consistent. With the instant weapon supply, you'd fight in accordance with the supplier when it was convenient to follow - but commune supply is a daily thing.
My proposal is daily & religiously up-kept Department of Defence orders - looking at utilizing PULSE for players who want offline supply, ingame supply on DoD order articles (screenshots) and IRC supply at regular points. Weapon supply condition on following those objectives - if don't fight or fight elsewhere, alternative supply of the non-subsided production in form of IEP (very important/desired by new players in the commune system - as Army HQ found out with the opening of commune doors to Bootcamp). With a strong team of suppliers from across the military broad, serving the entire system, its an achievable system.
*The actual supply would need to be re-calculated based on the demand, production and additional inputs this system would attract if adopted.
This would be an ambitious undertaking.
I've been told this proposal would shake Ireland to its core and cause untold amount of arguing; well, Ireland? Feeling restless? This is one of the most Left wing policies you could suggest as a national objective. 'e-Socialist' by its approach. If you don't like communes, you'd probably be crapping yourself about the prospect of making them even more freely available.
But, obviously, I think its a groovy idea. It promotes individualism and equality (a criteria to join being 'Irish citizen' is very open), promotes communal spirit (sharing a commune space, workload and benefit), promotes responsibility of our economic infrastructure and lastly it promotes a militarized coordinated nation of warriors.
To be honest, I savour the concept of proposing a Left-wing system which is -supposedly- against my 'vested interest' as high ranking officer of the current exclusively subsided State Army and has no obvious connection with my party's identify. But now I'm just waving my cock, oh me!
Socialism, Militarism, Community.
To the Citizens of our Glorious Republic,
Ireland first! Drinks with Army after! Politicians to the block!
Éire Abú
Comments
BETTER DEAD THAN RED
A drastically different alternative to the IA subsidy, or Seanan's proposal:
Remove the lure? http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2367960/1/20
Your 'alternative' isn't a choice between mine or yours - however you'd like to portray it as such.
Seanan you are a socialist, but you're just in denial. I will call you comrade Seanan from now on.
Defo man. If Ireland is renting out territory, every citizen should have a fair cut
From what I've seen, ideas are favored that inherently can not benefit all. If it's for the country, from something everyone gave up, then everyone should equally benefit.
I support this initiative
and I don't even work 🙂
You Sir, are doctor for analyzes of this type.
I'm pretty sure though that CrOmega works perfectly considering we're probably the biggest eCommies in this game. We work, we share, we give.
It would be good if other MU's would implement what we're doing, but of course it needs to be analyzed (for example how many members would actually like to contribute). eSocialism is hard to accomplish because it needs dedicated members. I'm happy enough to have those in CrOmega.
Would be cool if country would help out too. Other MU's I mean, CrOmega don't need much help.
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A lot to read and digest and this I will do.
I won't comment until I get my head around it.
It sounds good but when are you going to apologize for attacking this (my)idea a few weeks back and give me credit for this entire idea.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/krakkens-soap-box-socialism-in-eireland-pp-election-speech--2361789/1/20 Business loans and a mentor system are not a state wide commune unless I have got the wrong article....
b4 that one i will search it for you 🙂
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/who-are-the-irish-army--2350004/1/20
thieves do not apologise for thefts......they took pride for it.......typical Orc...
The Irish Army being an umbrella term far from your idea, no matter how much you beg and whine for someone to show you a kind word for that barely readable dribble ;___; but this isn't an extension of the Irish Army, nor anything you've suggested for the Army - this is an entirely new venture including but not headed by the Army.
Ya still useless, and even if you wanna take credit for an obscure sentence you apparently fitted in some rant somewhere.. go ahead.
Action speaks louder than words, and I'm a do'er! Cheers for coming out.
listen you nincompoop hedgehog that was an entire article and certainly better motivated than your incoherent posing. furthermore and just to clear up something for you homophobes i am not gay and neither are viktor kurgan referring to us as gay just shows your simplistic treatment of gays and africans as well. in other words your one some slippery slope you nincompoop wannabe back the eff up.
Lads, who cares if Krakken claims it's his, as long as he's on board with the implementation.
In fairness, if we're talking about who came up with it first, I did back in 2010 (the idea of state communes and political economy). That doesn't matter, what matters is that it is being implemented.
just along as pippin does not claim its his
Well Marx beat all of you guys with the idea.
just as long as pippie longstocks does not claim its hers
Plagiarism my dear sirs plagiarism
Sad to hear the sudden lost of Appleman, he was a great guy and I joined the game around the same time as him. A pleasure to work with and a friend who you could trust and depend on. RIP Apple
Onto business, I think it's a good proposal and promotes unity and sharing which is needed for Ireland to move forward into the current world affairs.
I think he only gets the heart-attack if this scheme goes ahead...
hopefully
I was about to lose hope and delete the joke!
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What surprised me is how quick Ian got on to business believing Apple got a heart-attack lol
Fuck you Seanan and your terrible jokes! You made me look like a right twat believing ya 😛
I thought it might have been a comment about Apple's frustrating lack of activity. Saying in jest that a heart attack is the reason for absences.
It is maddening as CP to sometimes have to wait days at a time for him to get around to doing things. We miss market opportunities, and almost miss payment deadlines. The inefficiencies may just frustrate to me, since my masters degree is in economics. Maybe others don't even see it, and I need to let it go.
I suppose that low-activity is just the price we have to pay, since he's the only one the whole nation trusts.
Bhane for next MoF?
I suppose MoF's can change, Paddy.
But I don't think we should change bankers.
If we do it will have to be a decision of the entire nation, since the the banker should continue to be a solo, ongoing position that transcends CP terms. Apple is the man everyone trusts, so he is the best man for the job.
LOL @ whs A sad day indeed... well, on to business. lol
Good article. Well laid out. Fairly simple for econo-newbs like myself to follow.
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The idea is simple. The questions are, IMO :
1. Do we have sufficient support from the citizens, as it falls apart without sufficient workers
2. How much infrastructure do we have in place and how much more would be needed to get the system up and running
3. Part of the first 2, how many suppliers would be willing to enter into it?
4. Would existing communes be willing to be folded into a state commune, as I think it would be more self supporting with more people in it.
5. Do we have qualified people to run it, and enough volunteers willing to learn to be able to help fill in any gaps?
6. This might have been answered, but I didn't see it, would it be a weapons only supply, or similar to the current IA/Boot Camp set up of weapons or IEP depending on combat levels?
So Seanan?
We still wait for you to honour Krakken and his idea you now advocating in this article.....
Surely you would not wanna look like a thief.....
Yes a venture that is started on a stolen idea is no venture at all. But dont worry Viktor she does not really have the intelligence to give justice to the original idea anyway.
You god damn commie bastard! Go back to Russia!!
No, but this is quite detailed and was a good read. Now to read Bhanes and mull it over.
This is a very good idea and I think we should do it.
A very thought provoking idea. It would sure change things around here.
boated
Embrace debate !
Sounds good.
Ok why not.. If that's can help us, why not
Oh, the good old times...
You should get a medal for the amount f time you put in, Seanan.
If Appleman's underground atm, it's no surprise. He's the one doing all the work on the dosh - has anyone even ASKED his opinion?
We always ask Apple's opinion on financial changes, as he's the only one with the full details of our current and proposed financial position.
Thanks for letting me know. So what is it, then?
Who knows? The financial impact will be the most important issue if the general view is to take this on. At the moment, this and Bhane's suggestion are just general toes in the water jobbies.
@Grainne; Cheers! I only do it for an excuse to make pretty banners. Our current financial position is save what's left!
@Liam I can do the economics of the State finance related specifically to my proposal, as involved with running the current State's Army & Bootcamp system. Looks like there is interest so I'll start gathering info.