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Associating closely with eUS will get eCan wiped

I would rather be wiped with the US then wiped alone without them again. They are not an easy enemy to keep down like we were.

I'd rather not get wiped

Your path to ACT/TWO is not any safer then this one. Just a different wiper.

lol Seriously?!?

We are doing everything we can TO get rewiped..

We are joining COT who are against eSpain and TWO.
(Yes they said we can join any alliance.. But this is kind of a slap to the face)

We are pretty much doing anything the eUSA wants and we are talking about giving up our freedom of picking our own CP's (What if people want Rylde to go in again? The eUSA would drop us. Hence we are limiting our freedom of choice)

I mean I can only beat a dead horse for so long but in all reality eSpain will most likely not renew the agreement after all the actions we have taken this month...

Just my 2 cents

Electing our leader is incredibly important. The three horse race this month did not serve the nation well.

I wouldn't give up that easily. Spain is easier to talk to then most think...

Didn't you suggest leaving Asgard and joining CoT when you were CP?

I wouldn't say that... yet. The core of our leadership is pretty Canadian I must say, the coming CP elections should display that fact.

The agreement is endless at the moment, it requires no renewal, unless we talk about getting the other 4 provinces back.

I did but this was before we reached a deal with them to release our lands 😛

Also I did a full referendum and the people voted no. So we didnt go through with it 😛

Different time in a different situation when we had nothing to lose.. Now however we have the freedom we just got back to lose.. Much much different

I apologize if I sounded harsh 😛

I do encourage at looking at all the options

Dont apologize 🙂 I want people to be open and honest. Its how we get our ideas and future etched out 😃

There wasn't anything in that message that isn't already known nor sensitive, but unilaterally censoring all executive discussions continues to be the CP's real contribution to this term. Sad when a CP can't even defend his own actions and hides from the electorate.

Where have I been hiding exactly? There is sensitive information in that thread, maybe reread it and actually think, then you will see that certain things are not supposed to be public. That is assuming you're able to think critically. No President tells the public everything, if they did no one would have allies and everyone would constantly be at each other's throats.

I actually told everyone everything... And I got eCan more allies than we ever had in the history of the game.. All in 1 month...

Some people seem to trust those that are completely open.. If you do not play a dirty or a cheaters game then what is there to possibly ever hide?

kepp in mind I didnt spill other countries secrets.. but for eCan I dont believe we should have any.. They only handcuff us and come to blow up in our faces later on

The issue is part of the sensitive information in that thread are our allies future plans. You can not share that with the public and think your allies and enemies will ignore that.

Allies future plans I agree on not sharing

There is no information in that thread that has not already been communicated in articles (some of which are your very own) and is public knowledge through comments made in other articles.

This is the article in summation:

Your plan to join CoT. Which you did and communicated about.
People who liked your plan.
People who didn't like your plan.
Hope of a better USA relation. That's a topic that's is as frequently discussed as the weather.
Some former CP bashing on your part.

None of that is sensitive and should have been part of a public discussion anyway.

When a person makes comments in a PM he does so in the understanding that it will not be made public. One person does not have the right to decide for the others that it should be made public without the consent of the others. It is extremely rude.

Now forgetting common courtesy which apparently we have. Our goal is to get all our regions back. Discussing how the best way to do that is sensitive and not for everyone's ears. CB has now taken it upon himself to be the judge of that, without any consultation with anyone else.

It was a government group message with over 20 people, not a private message between friends, how anyone could view that as not a public matter is odd. Given that it was government business there should be an expectation to be held accountable for actions. IRL transcripts of such meetings are made for the public to access. None of this is new.

There was no discussion on getting regions back in that message. None. You are drawing a huge assumption that because the word CoT alliance was dropped that one day they will ride in on a white horse and save us. In your mind you may have visions of DMV spinning fairy tales of freedom, but he has never every written down a single word of Canadian freedom. Ever.

When I post in closed door congress there is an understanding it will be made public eventually. There is no such understanding in these PM threads. I have been in most of these, since we started having them, and none have been made public before. Now CB has decided to do so on his own. It is the principal of it. It will effect people's participation in the future. We have all made the same relevant arguments publicly already so why do we need to violate everyone's privacy without their consent.

Where was this attitude when Auk let loose a PM involving IBB to bash his election campaign, ED?

What game have you been playing, lol. The CPF just posted IBBs message to their candidate a few weeks ago. It's done all the time. Take your magic beans else where, not buying today.

Also, per your argument your party owes IBB an apology.

Everyone is responsible for the their own actions in life. If Corrigan wants to violate the people's trust. He should not be allowed in on government associated PM's or into closed door congress for the foreseeable future regardless of his position.

That's a ridiculous solution to an overreaction. Something I'd expect from a dictatorship.

I see the difference as one was dirty politiks, but this is more important than our trivial arguments. Sure the CPF did it, but who says another party/party member wouldn't have? It's like this type of politics, however against them I am are when we have a congress etc in eCanada...

I'm disappointed to see two completely different situations tied together to walk hand in hand for the sake of an argument. If we all want in on these "public" discussions, we should use the allocated space on the forums or have an article in which we can start one for everyone to see.

I'm not qualified D :

That goes without saying 😛

bummer 🙁

Level 26 and over?

I feel like a kid who stayed up past bedtime to watch late-night tv. Don't tell my parents I read your article. tee-hee

I appreciated your move toward greater transparency. Wishing you better luck clearing it with security next time around.

the reason it's done with level 26 in mind is so that multis a low levels can't request data. It's just a precaution

but multis only exist under level 25, platotrufax