A parting message...
Angrr
There’s a man going round taking names,
And he decides who to free, and who to blame.
Everyone will be treated just the same.
There’ll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
- Johnny Cash.
I have already departed, I have kicked the habit and gone cold turkey on erepublik.
As a member of congress, I have checked in to honour my commitment, but have interacted very little with anyone on my way out.
One thing I noticed though, which I decided to address in this – my final article – was the state of eJapan as the country settles down into V2/rising.
Feel free to dismiss this article completely as the final rant of an old player being led out to the pasture. I would hope, however, that those few players who still care, would read it and take heed.
Political Parties.
Although I think that change can be a good thing, the amount of political parties that were taken over and changed was a little over the top. I don’t really think there is a massive problem with it, but most of the people who took control of the parties did so thinking only of themselves – joining a party just before the election and changing it as they see fit.
This is a long-established custom – one which I have used myself – why spend all that gold on creating a new party when so many are lying around unused?
My issue – and I am concerned at how few people speak out against it – is the “PTO” of the ULJ. I was never in the ULJ, and I never really had any common ground with them as far as lolies and anime go, but I respected their attempts to make a community based upon common interest. That being said, they were becoming increasingly inactive, and even a liability to eJapan.
To say that the entire party was inactive is incorrect. It seems that 2 things happened simultaneously –
1) Alfred Ball got shot down trying to take control of Godzilla, so moved on to another party – any party will do for him, so long as it has a large number of members, as this can further inflate his ego.
2) Certain members of the community who dislike the ULJ or some of it’s members supported this “PTO” by jumping parties to vote in the rogue candidate.
Let’s look at how these two points actually conflict…
One month ago, Alfred Ball decided that he was the one to save the Godzilla party and make it great. He was attacked, flamed and beat into submission. Why? It was because the people of the Godzilla party resented an outsider strolling in and trying to take control of their party – and rightly so.
Move forward one month, and Alfred tries the same move again. This time, he is supported by – wait – that couldn’t be Godzilla Party members, could it? Not after they tasted this and realised that it was bad…
It bothers me that this was allowed to happen, and that after it happened, no-one seems to care.
I care very little about this game now – I am dying and when this article drops out of the recent news section, I will cease to log-in. I still managed to care enough to write an article about it though.
It is about time that eJapan started working together and thinking about the whole picture, rather than providing a playground for idiots to stroke their egos.
Incidentally, No-one took me up on my offer. The one where I will give you an organisation with a Q1 and a Q2 company, several hundred yen and gold, just by showing that you care about eJapan and want to improve the nation.
If no-one cares, these companies will remain with me and never be used.
Come on! Show me you care and take the reward!
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MY EGO!! NOM NOM NOM NOM
FINALLY.
As per usual you botched several facts in writing, that's alright though, you're gone now and we won't have to worry about this until KITA gets active again.
sad to see you leave, you'll be missed.
Sorry to see you leave. I figured there'd be someone to take you up on that offer of yours, but there are too many people considering to leave these days to pick you up on it. :/
Where was your outrage at last months PTO?
;_; I'd hate to see you go ;_;
I'd say Yonsil (and his voters) won your contest. No way anyone else is going to top their contribution to improving the quality of life in eJapan this month.
You missed how Godzilla actually had a PP nominee before Alfred declared, and that once it was explained to Alfred that he wouldn't win and would just piss of the userbase, he decided it wasn't worth it. No member of the ULJ was running (except Damepu, the rightful heir to the throne) until after Alfred declared. You'll also notice that the amount of people that left the ULJ is less than 10%... that would seem to show that either the base is ok with Alfred, or inactive.
Most of the time you actually put thought and logic into your posts, why did you suddenly stop with that?
Ember was running before Alfred declared. She did end up resigning her candidacy and quitting, true. A few hours later, before Akira logged on, Alfred Ball had already declared candidacy. That evening he declared it, since it had been his intention to begin with that he'd run if Ember didn't. Damepu didn't even declare candidacy until the last day possible.
For someone who routinely flames others for supposedly not having the right facts, you have a lot of misconceptions about the facts yourself. Of course why the order that someone declares their candidacy should matter in the first place is a mystery. It's just like all the irrelevant stuff you brought up during the Korea war and every other time we've argued.
If you have a point to begin with, make it, and don't bring in flurries of unrelated details with the intention of confusing people. (In this case you even got the details wrong, not that it matters for your argument.)
Semantics. ULJ was a cancer that needed to be purged--Mission Accomplished.
The real story is Yonsil's win anyway; ULJ was too dead for more than you and like 5 others to care about. Getting rid of a worthless party and causing them to leave the country, now *that's* news.
Hi Sophia, please point out where I was wrong.
Alfred declared when the ULJ had no other candidates. Ember made known she was quiting with V2 (not a candidate), Akira hadn't announced, Damepu hadn't announced. I understand you're very hurt that the truth is being exposed and the flaws in your argument are being brought forward, but please don't try and twist the facts to your viewpoint.
As for why timing matters: my point is that no one wanted to lead the ULJ until Alfred stepped up. That has been a symptom of the inactivity and the other problems of the ULJ previously as well: Ember having a spat and leaving no one to run the party, Kenji leaving the country and leaving no one to run the party, constant trash talk of other members by leadership causing the "other members" to shun leadership positions. There's more points, but you've been absent too often and for too long to have noticed them.
For anyone who may be worried, "Austria must be destroyed" did not get PTO'ed and is still firmly under my control.
It's comforting to know the parties that matter stay under the control of their rightful owners.
Again, Aogo, I don't know why any of it would matter in the first place. Just pointing out that your statement that no one was a candidate before Alfred "except Damepu" was backwards. There was a candidate before Alfred and it was in deference to her that Akira had not yet filed. Damepu was not a candidate during any of that.
If these facts are really important though, why do you take it so confrontationally when I correct them? If it were really the facts that mattered to you then you'd want to have the right facts.
Just my own impression, but it seems like, instead, you have this misconception that these facts reflect poorly on the ULJ, and it is promoting this negative image that you care about. Personally, I think it reflects positively on Akira that he held off when Ember, the more experienced candidate, was in the race. It also reflects positively on the ULJ that we were able to pull together and get behind someone so soon after our original candidate dropped out. But, if this really seems to you like something to complain about, well, go ahead. I'm not stopping you.
🙁
Ember was in fact not declared as a candidate at my time and declaration of running. It's ultimately what pushed me to declare, as I saw a clear lack of leadership, absolutely nothing in the media from your party. Hell that last PP's article are around 3 - 4 months ago. ULJ was dead minus 4 members, the fact is you are a party of only 4 members not the 86 in the party who are so far into two clicking I receive messages many days later after sending them out. Though the argument is void, the crusade over, the worthy have been put in, the unworthy have been taken out. This article is a losers rant who did nothing but isolate everyone who mattered to eJapan, I guess this is him repaying you for his sham of a candidacy for president. Those are the facts, don't like them? Don't care.
Johnny Cash is a good way to exit. Another one on my friends list makes his departure....
@TRSV: You rang? I come back and find that one of the top five media articles (true, media votes are low these days) is about... Godzilla/FoH people moving around PP candidates to control parties they consider a "cancer" (Vorph's org's words) which is basically any party they don't control.
Aogo missed that Godzilla party members used to complain (rightfully) about eJapan's major political parties being controlled by the same group of friends, but now they do the same thing. A few opposition candidates in congress and an inactive top five party president is not a "PTO" in a country with only 400 moderately active citizens. There aren't any PTOs and never were: not when Godzilla came last July, not when Dokomo claimed he had to carry out "the ultimatum" last December or eJapan's congress would be PTOed, not when Crawling Chaos claimed eHungarians were doing it in January, and not recently either.
Think about it. Why would anyone waste their time PTOing a relatively low value country like eJapan? It's not like there would be any group of players stupid enough to waste their time doing something like moving en masse from another country and then trying to block other congress candidates in a country as unimportant as this one. 🙂
PS--Alfred Ball would make a good Country President of eAustria. Servus!
Hah Alfred Ball and Yonsil are FoH now.
Dude, seek help. For real.
Alfred Ball, Yonsil and most of ISP party leadership is FoH now, WHO IS NEXT?!
It's not like there was a top 5 article where an eHungarian who consistantly jumped in parties at the last second admitted he wanted to invite more Phoenix influence in the country, oh shit: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/l-operation-ninja-1268841/1/20">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/l-op[..]1/20
But next time you want to insult/ignore the worth of eJapan (Kyushu) and deliberately ignore events transpiring over the past 4-6 monthes, you go right ahead and post. I know logic won't stop you.
Also:
"not when Dokomo claimed he had to carry out "the ultimatum" last December or eJapan's congress would be PTOed, "
Huh?
Please Sophia, even the ULJ subforum contradicts your "facts"... No one had declared, regardless of what you'd like to believe. As far as why "who filed first" being important: Because no one bothered to file, Alfred felt he could file. Once he did, others took notice and then declared. As far as "Akira holding off", that is completely incorrect. Nothing was mentioned over the IRC logs I read, nor was it even approached in the forums until Alfred declared. No mention by Akira that he was contemplating a run until the 12th.
Feel free to keep spinning up this angle you're working, but the evidence proves you're wrong.
@KITA As far as me missing the information, I haven't. Godzilla runs it's party, SOS runs itself, ISP controls itself, DPJ is run by itself, and Alfred is now running SEES. Somehow you miss the fact that none of these people are running in collusion, none of this "ruling elite" you are posting about. Also, I'd really like to see the "ultimatum that was delivered or Congress would be PTO'ed", as that was never the case. If I remember my facts correctly, it was YOU who allowed in a PTO agent when an election wasn't going in your favor...
Regarding you're comments on PTO'ing, it's not about takeover, it's about being a citizen here. And despite your best attempts to slam everyone related to FoH/Godzilla, you'll notice Japan is more organized, better equipped, and in a better state than ever before.
The worst atrocity the admins on eRep ever did was unban you.
@TRSV:
December 7, 2009 - Dokomo's "Noh Drama" on defending Kyushu: "we must all make a stand at some point."
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/we-have-awakened-a-sleeping-giant-1073482/1/20">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/we-h[..]1/20
December 11, 2009 - FTFA by Dokomo "Japan's Role in the World":
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/japan-s-role-in-the-world-1079230/1/20">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/japa[..]1/20
"I want Phoenix to have a contract ready to return all Chinese regions except Heilongjiang back to China by 23:59 server time Sunday."
Hmm, sounds like Dokomo is in a big hurry to make a switch... Didn't he "forget" to fight in that Kyushu battle? Where's Dokomo now anyway? Citizenship surfing in eNorth Korea again. Maybe he'll get elected to congress and "make another stand"...?
"Next time you want to ignore/insult the worth of eJapan," please have your FoH cronies delete the articles they wrote that make themselves look bad. I know facts don't stop you.
@Lejina Never said Alfred Ball and Yonsil were in FoH. Even you guys won't claim them. 🙂
KITA originally you sai😛
"not when Dokomo claimed he had to carry out "the ultimatum" last December or eJapan's congress would be PTOed, "
None of what you just posted has anything to do with that. At all.
You've claimed we've deleted articles and shouts (lolcannnotdothat). You're the one who just claimed eJapan was worthless, not me.
Oh an😛
" I come back and find that one of the top five media articles (true, media votes are low these days) is about... Godzilla/FoH people moving around PP candidates to control parties they consider a "cancer"
clashes directly with
"Never said Alfred Ball and Yonsil were in FoH. Even you guys won't claim them. 🙂"
Also protip: Citizenship surfing has to be one of the most positively retarded pseudo-insults you can throw at someone. God forbid some switches citizenship ever, especially to help in an ATO.
"Hmm, sounds like Dokomo is in a big hurry to make a switch..."
Dokomo didn't foresee the endless nagging that I would bring down upon him when he made that statement on the 7th. A few days later he was browbeaten into submission. 😁
Lol KITA hates me and I never even had a solid conversation with him go figure, but as to be expected by someone who is never in the main IRC room and whines on a daily basis in the media. Your nothing but a whiny troll, you need to man up brah.
Join the club. He's never really talked to Drago or me either, and he's been stalking us for a year now.
WTF??????? Bye angrr! You will be missed! You should be able to tell that by all the comments mourning eJapan's loss. OK, but seriously, you will be missed.
KITA, I honestly love how all you make are unfounded accusations. Let me ask you do you think that the ULJ was better with an unsecure Party with inactive leadership or do you think it is more secure with someone you may not agree with politically but overall works with anti PTO intelligence because he is and IRC and forum active? I don't have a problem with you, never tried to make you an enemy, or even bother with you. However I have noted that in every article that targets the same group you are always there to do a little ego stroking, and a bit of insulting and mainly accusations, then when someone addresses your accusations you have an answer to everything, no matter how ludicrous or absurd they sound. If you are going to make accusations such as calling me a "citizenship surfer" at least back it up. Please no more strawman arguments, it would be better for everyone if you actually an idea of what you are actually on about. Thanks in advance though hope you get over god complex sometime soon and possibly get off your high horse.
P.S. Not holding my breath.
Hilarious how when we ask for proof you're only response is "Go search for it on the forums". Because you're trying to force us to find something that doesn't exist.
Bring links, or continue to be a liar.
And yeah, complaining about the admin's failure to actually enforce rules (and causing for multiple tickets to stop people from cheating) must totally mean that we take this seriously. Of course you and your "RL friends" would suggest that filing tickets for cheating is taking the game to seriously.
"KITA, I honestly love how all you make are unfounded accusations...If you are going to make accusations such as calling me a "citizenship surfer" at least back it up."
Citizenship Surfer = someone who changes citizenship a lot. Someone people hide behind "it's for ATO operations" but these are the same groups of people who switched citizenship en masse before when it was convenient. A subset of this is the "party surfer" or someone with the no1kevlin-like tendency to move to whatever party is convenient. I've been eJapanese since I started the game in Feb. 2009 and have only ever been a member of the Imperial Sun Party as it best represented my ideals, and while it drifts depending on the leadership, it still basically does. We have discussion about the party direction, etc.
To me, this style of gameplay is far more rewarding than the "EVERYBODY MOVE TO PARTY X at 23:59 SERVER TIME SO WE CAN PTO/ATO!!!" style your kind of gamer prefers. Game mechanics permit you to do so, of course.
Political party strength waxes and wanes with the number of active members, and the ULJ seemed to be waning. If your victory consisted of convincing the former members to go with you, or perhaps attracting new members, it would be more democratically legitimate than if you decided to run for PP and then a bunch of organized outsiders with a self-interest unrelated to the original party (read "FoH"😉 moved voters to support you.
The fact that you have an FoH-tendency to dismiss accusations as "unfounded" (and please look up "strawman;" Crawling Chaos has used it incorrectly in the past, too) despite links to evidence and quotations does not mean that you're FoH, but it means you sound like them.
"Hilarious how when we ask for proof you're only response is "Go search for it on the forums". Because you're trying to force us to find something that doesn't exist. Bring links, or continue to be a liar."
Hilarious when I link proof (for example, see my first comment) YOUR only response is "You have no proof" or "Liar."
Crawling Chaos' original first shout is listed here (sorry no direct quotation from non-eRep servers or one of you Admin Ticket writers will probably report it):
http://www.nipponblog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1723">http://www.nipponblog.net/forum/viewtopi[..]1723
Why is it important? FoH members such as Aogo, Crawling Chaos, Dokomo, Lejina, etc. have flexible histories and tend to delete past articles / comments that are unfavorable to them.
FYI, I have sent up an occasional ticket or two, but I have not devised a system of sending up Admin Tickets in order to maximize the chance that a particular Admin would receive it and take actions where other Admin may not. Sorry if people like Angrr have "RL Friends" and don't have to join online gamer guilds to make new ones, but yeah, that's taking the game too seriously.
Not really sure what you are directing at me as I am not a member of FoH nor have I asked others to move from other parties to vote for me. However, after mass messaging the party I garnered some support there as they agreed the party was somewhat lacking in leadership and just overall activity. Some welcomed me other did not. However, if you are trying to say something say, do not beat around the bush, you are either outraged I took control of an unstable party or you are just looking for something to complain about. Also KITA I used the wording "strawman argument" correctly, I will ask you to look up the context of what it is. Is your logic so fail that you are actually trying to pick words out of my comment to use as a filler, perhaps a lame attempt at someones intelligence? Clearly you do not know the context of the wording. I will ask you to check it our and get back to me.
Say it*
Also it does not matter how many times you send in a ticket, it doesn't catch there attention any faster if you had even been remotely a mod or knew someone who was you would know it does not work on what has been reported the most times that gets priority so please do not speak out of your ass as I so often see you doing.
PS--Readers, also re-read this thread on "Impeachment" for some more FoH goodness:
http://www.nipponblog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1724">http://www.nipponblog.net/forum/viewtopi[..]1724
Even Reiji backed away after Crawling Chaos stepped in it with this one.
"Also it does not matter how many times you send in a ticket, it doesn't catch there attention any faster if you had even been remotely a mod or knew someone who was you would know it does not work on what has been reported the most times that gets priority so please do not speak out of your ass as I so often see you doing."
Nope, never had enough time or inclination to be a mod, and if you had read my post you would know that that Admin Ticket tactic was not mine, but rather a summation of what Drago told me in the one or two conversations I had with him in November '09. So you misrepresented my position (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man); I believe the person you wish to claim speaks "out of your ass" is Afanasiy Drago.
I don't really have a position on Admin Ticketing. Maybe Drago's right, maybe you're right. Don't care since I haven't sent up any Admin Tickets in a while.
If you don't care then what is the point in bringing it up? 😒
Vorph indicated that I had never talked to him or Drago. This was incorrect, so I cited a specific example, then Aogo added to the conversation.
Again, your "proof" is more of you saying "This is what I said his first shout is".
How's this: Kita's first shout was asking for a date with an Okami.
I said it, now it must be true.
ULJ WILL BACK