Tycoon Pack ~ What is it worth?
The Mike
I think this is the second time Plato is offering a Tycoon Pack and that this time it looks a bit differently. I'll take the time to show you my calculations, about what it is worth and will share my opinion if it's worth paying 10 euros for this pack.
(1) 20 Gold
Current rate is $219 but it may rise a bit as a result of people utilizing the 50g/day donation limit.
(2) 150 Work Tickets
Every employer receives a work ticket when his or hers employee works. So, you'll get 150 'works' (one of those things that many of us had thousands of in store). The highest salary is in Romania - $64.50
(3) 20% base productivity bonus
Most of the relevant countries now have 100% bonus in the industry of their choosing, USA have 100% in all the three industries. So, if you buy the Tycoon Pack, this bonus will increase to 120%. I produce 60k WRM a day, this will increase by 6k, or $120 in daily income.
(4) 50 gold daily limit of donations
That thing that is now limited to 10 gold a day, will be limited to 50. Given the current profitability from the companies and how hard it is to make more than 5-10g a day profit (I'm nowhere near that). So, unless you aren't sitting on a pile of cash (like a million or two), I won't be putting a price tag on this option.
Given that Plato cannot into proper spelling and grammer, maybe the game administration is finding it hard also to do simple maths.
$219 * 20 = $4,380
$64.5 * 150 = $9,675
$120 * 7 = $840
A total benefit of: $14,895 or let's just say 15k
The other packs also cost 10 euros. Based on my shoutfeed, people buy packs for other people for the price of ~25k cc. A friend might make you a discount and agree to 20k. But some even pay 30-35k, so let's stick to the 25k.
So, we are paying 25k to get something worth 15k.
Unless you don't value the 50g limit too much, I wouldn't advise for spending the 10 euros for a Tycoon Pack.
Thanks for reading!
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Thanks for the info, Mike
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wow i sold 1 pack today to friend for 15k cc, seems i failed to screw him 🙁
15k is a very friendly price, yes! But still, why pay 15k for having a benefit of ... 15k?
hm, i want to know how long does the 50 gold a day transfer last for? is it only a month?
7 days
7 days but enough to carve a diference if you got lots of gold to lend to honourable people who´ll repay you with interests
very nice article....voted
Good work. However you could look at it as paying 10 euros for about 70 gold in which case it isn't a bad deal compared to paying 100 euros for 450 gold on "specials". Not as good deal as power pack or assault pack but maybe on par with war chest. However using your logic, I won't be buying it🙂
I think the 20% bonus production is only for the base production, so with 100% bourses you will only increase 10% from what you get now. Example wrm factory will produce 550 instead of 500
PilotPhil is correct.
The +20% is on BASE production ONLY.
I Reread the article and he has it right in the article too, I just didn't read it carefully the first time...
it doesn't matter because then the resource bonuses go on top of the base, so increasing the base by 20% basically means that the resource bonuses go on top of 110% base and if they're 100% you'll end up with 220% of the base just the same.
No.
I can verify absolutely that my production has increased by a factor of 1.1 across the board.
I am willing to share screenshots with you privately if you need evidence.
Well it would not surprise me, to be honest, however it is not what they have written down, but ok I accept.
150 tickets into 22 tanks = 3300 tanks
3300 * 6.15 = 20295CC
Too lazy to write down the WRM costs and shit but this route seems more profitable, it's 100g+ from the 10eu investment.
3300 tanks use 200 WRM each = 660k WRMs
Each unit of WRM costs $0.02 or total costs are $13,200
Profit: $7,095
This is what you get for presenting the working tickets in tanks, instead of unpaid salaries.
I always underestimate the WRM factor, lol
hm, we should look at HRM 🙂 65 usd per work day, 160*65=10400 about 50 gold 🙂
This is the wrong way to calculate this.
You are receiving a work ticket either by buying the tycoon pack, or by hiring an employee. In what way you will use it, shouldn't be any of my concerns.
The benefit of buying the pack is that you won't have to pay 150 salaries in order to get the tickets.
Let's see 20% bonus for tanks production: 2 tanks per employee * (10 employees + WaM) = 22 tanks * $6.15 = $135.3
22 tanks need 22*200=4,400 WRM * $0.02 = $88
Profit: $47.3 per q7 factory
You need more than two q7 factories to reach my level, which is why I used it.
I tried to present the most optimistic scenario here.
Мерси, Майк 🙂
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nice math but you forget that the increase in gold being sent can be used if you already have all the conections and trustworthy people to lend money
the contract season should be right around the corner and many people are willing to pay good interest rates for a chance to get 20 gold instead of just 10
if well played in the longrun this raise in gold limits can pay for itself
also the gold limit cap is invaluable for mu organisers who are required to provide logistical suport during the training camps promotions
basically depending on what will happen in the next 7 days this might probably be the best pack out there (if theres a company and training grounds upgrade or if theres a training contract on the horizon )
Sorry I didn't manage to reply to you the other day.
I cannot account for extreme situations. This article is aimed for the average user who hasn't made up their mind yet. MU organizers and people with connections would definitely buy it just to take advantage of the 50g limit. They wouldn't care for any of the other advantages of the tycoon pack and therefore wouldn't account for them neither.
I consider the Power Pack the best pack - it enables me to earn more EBs.
idd the powerpack is the best even tough it only provides 15 gold but it pays up particulary in div3 or if you happen to be a bit stronger then me and get to fight for batlehero
Yeah I totally rocked d3 when I was there a lot of time ago 🙂
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The highest salary is in Romania - $64.50
I been paying $65.00 for a monthsss USA #1 🙂
The Tycoon Pack is the same as the last one same benefits, came out Sept 30, 2014.
You guys are fascist pigs. Occupying us based on lies, and now also attacking eSlovakia. Death to eUS!
Capitalist pigs I would say, not fascist....
((If I were RPing a communist, I would probably say that capitalism is just a milder form of fascism, especially since e.g. me as a citizen living in a village with no electricity and no seat in any (local) parliament for such muncipality, you would hardly argue that I really gave representative consent to whatever deal the ruling clique may have made with some corporation or so.))
First, your CP agreed to us air striking your country.
Second, we left your regions as per our NAP with Asteria.
Third, thanks for commenting 🙂
Even during the raw event "you guys" were fighting nonsensically, that is lessening the total amount of tokens received. And from what I heard the deal was quite different to: "The eUS is gonna keep the regions as long as they see fit." It was even clearly stated that your MUs were issuing wrong orders, something in RL usually followed up by disciplinary consequences.
So or so, no right to use eCR as some sort of beachhead was issued afaik.
Why don't you go to court then.
Our regions are still occupied due to deception. Slovakia was taken due to deception. Deception - lifestyle of the US!
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uhm 20% of 60K is 12K not 6K, also the 150 work tickets should be calculated based on production and not salaries, as you'll not trade them in for salaries but use them to produce resources or products, thus the real income from them is based on the price you sell those on the market afterwards.
The 50 gold limit is actually very much important as there are quite a few people who make more then 1 TP medal a day on top of everything else, which is 1000 CC that need to be turned into gold. So some could have accumulated some CCs in their accounts, though probably not as many as the admins hoped when they changed the TP and FF medals' rewards.
Probably next tycoon promotion will be more popular when more people accumulate CCs in their accounts and when maybe finally the Q6 houses might be introduced.
Not that I would find it unfair for production being differently calculated (on the contrary with us having usually max. 3 regions), but would make resources sort of useless, unless they would redo it to influence only raw materials production with manufactures relying on "world market" of raw resources, I suppose.
Прочети механиката once again, утре ще ти отговоря и на теб.
The 20% is only on the BASE production, not after bonuses. If he makes 60k WRM with bonuses(100% bonuses), he'd make 30K without them, and without the Tycoon pack you make 20% less of the base, aka 30k, which means he'd make 24k. The pack only raises it by 6k.
yes however the resources give you a bonus on top of the base, so when you expand the base the bonus that is calculated on top of the base should expand as well.
Now as I understand that is not happening...so I regress
"20% of 60K is 12K not 6K" - thanks to ischelle who took care of this
" the 150 work tickets should be calculated based on production and not salaries"
people pay salaries in order to get work tickets
each employer chooses in what industry to use that work ticket. Getting work tickets via salaries or via this pack wouldn't influence the decision of current employers. However, I will give you right because people who do not employ employees might still be interested in buying this pack and might want to find out in which industry they should invest the 150 work tickets.
Nevertheless, this doesn't change the fact that the cost of obtaining the work tickets is based on the salary you would usually pay to employees.
Bottom line is that different players can use work tickets for different industries (some more profitable than the others of course), but the cost of obtaining these tickets is the same for all.
The 50g gold limit is a very individual thing. I cannot predict how much the average player would value it. Provided that I who have 120 rubber plantations can't make profit anywhere near 10g, I guess that there aren't many people who earn more than that. So, the number of people buying the tycoon pack for the 50g limit shouldn't be that big. Nevertheless, I think that most of the people buying the pack will be rather interested in the 50g limit than in the other boni.
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