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Abolish congress. There.

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But if Congress isn't doing anything, then it isn't doing any harm - wouldn't you only want to abolish Congress if it was hindering the ability of the Government to govern?

By doing nothing it effectively is hindering the government as they have to approve all decisions.

Congress IS government.

Voodoomike my friend you are absolutely right

My point still stands. The government are hindered if the legislative branch aren't doing anything

No Aaron, that's like the only thing that new people want to join. Just kick dead members from the congress list.

People join congress and quickly fade away. Like I kid you not people can still get the medals but they hinder the process more than they help it.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/just-burn-it-all-down-pls-reform-deform--2579552/1/20

We shouldn't avoid considering just havin' a dictatorship in it's natural form, but nobody proposed a way for it to work other than me so yay anarchism

Oooooooooh!

Given how dire our current situation is I think experimenting in decentralizing a portion of government functions to the community/parliament could potentially be a motivation towards making the chamber of the major parties more focused and functional again. Perhaps using ingame media resources will reinvigorate our national media again.

Necessarily this means that we'd need to trust each other to try and reach rational conclusions together - a difficult talk in itself historically but not beyond the reach of compromise in light of current events.

Foremostly I think everyone would be happier with more updates and information on what's going on within the two main branches of government. Perhaps making all but the top secret of information such being available to parliament to decide to publish and act upon would be a greater benefit to the rest of the community trying to find a reason to stay.

I think most of those left have stuck around long enough to give decentralization a try. Perhaps taking the office of the CP down a peg given the flexibility of parliamentary constitutionalism will give those willing a better chance to get involved

will try and get something together and savage the car-crash of a council I called >_

Abolish the position of CP and all ministries. Congress run everything and make all decisions based on a structure of their own choosing. Congress instructs existing constitutional dictator to press buttons in the same way that Congress and CP do now.

For a laugh.

We ought to give the role of CP elections some function, even if it's more a speaker position than an executive one

you realise congress basically has all the power now? If they don't want to do something they can be like, nah, CP mate we aint gon do that. People don't understand this and don't utilise it enough, the CP and cabinet are basically powerless

Problem is the war module - it is a solitary affair, which attracts individuals. You can operate completely on your own now in erep - there are many who are not members of parties and who probably make no effort to join in with the Community.

Yes Congress has power, but what is there to do? We cannot control the economy - set prices or money supply.
Impeaching a CP will not change our international position.

I like where Appleby is heading here.

At present Government and Congress is dysfunctional to say the least. Having been in several different governments in recent months, there is very little discussion within members and very little of what is discussed outside of government ever gets reported back to the Government. The same is true of Congress. Congress Committees that are supposed to be holding the Government to account do not, even if they ask questions in committee, ever report back to Congress as a whole.

In addition the 2 separate threads for Congress have always been an utterly stupid way of running things. By their very nature it limits discussion - there is no ability to separate topics, meaning long threads containing irrelevant off topic discussion inevitably alienate even the most enthusiastic of Congressmen.

erep is virtually dead, as many keep saying. Yes it still functions in that people can fight the same endless wars over and over. I do think this is pretty much our last chance for people to become active, or else the eUK Community, such that it remains, will collapse completely.

On the Document it says that eUK citizens will be eligible to vote if "They became a citizen of the eUK no earlier than 1st January 2016 (Day 2664)", not "You became a citizen of the eUK no later than Day 2664 (March 7, 2015)".

If we're looking to improve activity, we could at least get rid of the Congress committees and most legislation. The current structure of the government isn't exactly activity inspiring either, with even the CP elections meaning little these days, but honestly I do think that Congress does inspire some activity in newer players.

March 7 2015 is Day 2664. I made a few assumptions although without them only players who had registered in the last 11 months would have been able to vote.

Yes, that confused me too. The document, that I assume Congress voted on, tries to suggest that Day 2,664 was January 1st, 2016. Then on top of that it seems to suggest that only citizens born after that date can vote in this referendum!

Once again Congress voting on something without properly reading it and/or getting it amended first. Well done o7

brought this up at the very beginning in Congress - http://prntscr.com/9y3t07

but no one has said anything since!

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Paul, I would have said something if I knew the date wasn't right, although I thought nothing of it as it looked fine.

yes but the key here is that it's 2,664 that's the bit that's wrong - it's clearly a typo -as 1st January 2016 was day 2964 in erep!

So it's supposed to read -

You became a citizen of the eUK no later than Day 2964 (1st January 2016)

Military junta.

I think that's called the Scarfar Option

I'd be interested to hear Woldy's opinion on all this.

8 years later still arguing about how to have an argument.

Genuine proposition:
Keep all the systems the same.

I believe keeping the existing system will be one of the options to go against an agreed alternative. I think it's important to stress than alternative should only be approved if it is better than the current model and not because people perceive a problem with what we do at present - most of the issues now concern people ability to participate, not necessarily any inherent weaknesses in our process.

Agreed. But the referendum act doesn't specify that not changing anything will be an option. So I figured I have to propose it as one.

I share the same point of view. I've written down some thoughts in an article o/ http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-the-referendum-act-thoughts-and-my-favoured-proposal-2580697/1/20

The only way to make congress function is to give them their buttons back. It is moribund (
So we need to reinstate democracy or replace Woldy with someone that will actually fulfil the role of totalitarian dictator

As many have mentioned before, there are problems with the current system we use. But personally, I think we should, principally, keep it the same. What should change, though, is activity and transparency. Of course Congress won't work when it isn't in touch with the community, doesn't regularly debate pressing issues and with many members often not participating in voting. Of course people are dissatisfied with the government when there is barely any activity visible. The way our system works needs an overhaul, not the system itself.

Agreed. The principle of constitutionalism under Woldy has managed to prevent a major structural crisis despite numerous tests.

I think therefore it might be worth the experiment to see a decentralizing process to involve more people in it's operation. Again I think most have been here long enough to have developed some understanding for the need of consensus

However we are distracting ourselves from a pretty important objection - get the actual eUK back 😛

*objective >_

Devil's advocate mode ON:

Replace "managed to prevent a major structural crisis" with "served to maintain an increasingly tedious, expiring status quo". There's a chance that this is - very much unintentionally - the heart of the problem.

As various key revolutionaries over the years didn't quite say, "a little major structural crisis every now and then is a good thing, don't you think?" After all, this is a game, not a building.

I agree. But we should be moving in the direction of decentralization towards parties, MUs as well as players themselves so they get a say in what goes on. Also, we desperately need to unite as a country. Some smaller countries have, and they are doing great - take NL as an example.

If possible as an MP do you mind if I submit my random initial comment as an idea for consideration?

I have to travel back up to st A's tommorah so will type up a proper format when I get back

Can put in some draft principles now

Draft (Parliament Act)
Main principles
-Parliament will chiefly correspond through in-game articles created every ~2days by the CP. Any eUK citizen has the right to propose any motion provided it is supported by at least 5 MPs.
-Committees will be headed by Ministers nominated by the elected Prime Minister. Members of the committee are obliged to participate in that Ministry and report their progress to the government. If it is obvious they are inactive anybody may request their removal in the CP’s ig article
-Members of Parliament who are not committed to any area of government are obliged to keep an ingame constituency presence. Those who fail to publish a single article throughout their term can be barred for 3(?) elections
-Top secret info has the right to be restricted to the dictatorship and the executive unless the dictator believes it’s within the public’s right to know (might be a too much moral pressure on woldy but I expect this clause is for him to agree on)

Missed out the most important bit...

Anybody can ask for the government to do something provided it has enough support in parliament (though this was always the case!)

Hopefully if all but top secret info is discussed in-game with the CP more or an arbiter of discussion then we can rule can dialogue

by* >_

On the handling of secret Parliament info-

Have the CP open a message with both every PP and their chosen chief whip & each party's MPs with their PP to have them elect a chief whip and remind the buggers to vote/consider important info.

Otherwise let everything but the secret rubbish be discussed ingame with everybody else

I have published a proposal in this article: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/proposal-constitutional-monarchy-with-bicameral-legislature-2580811/1/20

TWO camels?

No camels, but a bicameral legislature (a legislature with two chambers).

I've only read that two chamber part and I already know where you can stick that idea...