[EN] Indonesia-Brazil-CoT | Индонезия-Бразилия-СоТ [БГ]
Day 1,958, 15:43
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by Krum III
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Българска версияРазочарован съм, макар и да не съм изненадан. Хора сме и за съжаление доказахме, че дяволът в нас е по-силен от ангела на разума и визията за бъдещето.
Дяволът постигна каквото целеше - накара ни да му платим хиляди истински евра и създаде вътрешни противоречия от алчност между съюзници с цел да създаде още войни.
Всички се съсредоточиха върху златните мини и забравиха за съюзници и приятели. В началото се радвах, че след като ни взе Долен Египет, за да ни открадне мината, Гърция се очертава да остане с пръст в уста. Вероятно Бразилия или Индонезия ще вземат африканската мина, но вече не съм сигурен дали това трябва да се случи.
Гърците спечелиха правото да експлоатират златната мина като похарчиха хиляди истински евра и мотивираха целия ЕДЕН да се бие за тяхната кауза. Те не отвърнаха със същото да помогнат на Турция, но това е друг въпрос.
Какво правеше Индонезия през това време? Те чакаха. Те чакаха през цялата седмица през която България воюваше на три фронта срещу Гърция, Турция и Румъния. Те чакаха България да се провали, за да вземат те златната мина на Африка.
Те не се държаха като действащ член на CoT. Те не поставиха приоритета си върху съюза. Те имат 9/10 бонуса, но това не им е достатъчно. Те са забравили, че тези бонуси ги имат единствено благодарение на СоТ, който изгони румънците от Югоизточна Азия, въпреки, че това не беше в интерес на България и СоТ като цяло. Ако не бяхме закачали румънските колонии там, щяхме да си ползваме бонусите от оригиналните им региони и да имаме на главата си един вражески фронт по-малко на Балканите.
Но ние избрахме да помогнем на съюзник, пред това да си осигурим по-лесно съществуване.
Толкова ли отдавна беше това, че индонезийците го забравиха и почнаха да пишат такива статии - тук и тук?
Готова ли е Индонезия да отговори според това, което СоТ е направил за тях? Готова ли е Индонезия да се откаже от атаката на златната мина в Африка, ако това е в интересите на съюза? Всички знаем, че един конфликт между Индонезия и Бразилия би навредил на СоТ.
Сигурен съм, че всички спорещи страни са наясно, че България е тази, която може да реши спора кой да вземе мината и дори да направи спора безсмислен.
Към всички бразилци, които пишат по статиите "CoT = Circle of Traitors?"
Докато сте неутрални не си дължим взаимно нищо - нито Бразилия на СоТ, нито обратното. Снощи имаше бразилци, които се биеха за България, но имаше и такива, които се биха за Гърция. Докато не решите с кого искате да бъдете, не можете да изисквате лоялност от никоя страна.
Така че, пораснете малко и решете конфликта мирно, да не се окаже, че накрая и Бразилия, и Индонезия, и СоТ са губещи.
Не искам от цялата работа да спечели Гърция. А вие?
English versionI am disappointed, although I am not surprized. We are humans and unfortunately we proved that the devil inside us is stronger than the angel of cool minds and vision for prosperity.
The devil earned what he wanted - he made us spend more now and
he made us quarrel out of greed and create more conflicts.
Everyone focused on the gold mines, neglegting his allies and friends. At first, I was very happy that after Greece took from Bulgaria Lower Egypt in an attept to steal our gold mine, now they are about to loose it to Brazil or Indonesia but I am not sure this was the right outcome.
The Greeks earned the right for this achievement by spending thosands of real euro, showing persistence and ability to motivate the whole EDEN to fight for their cause. They did not respond and didn't help Turkey for their gold mine in Asia but this is another story.
What was Indonesia doing? They were waiting. They were waiting during the whole week while Bulgaria was at war with Greece, Romania and Turkey. They were waiting for Bulgaria to fail so that they can take the gold mine in South Africa.
They didn't behave like an actual member of CoT. They didn't put the prioity on the alliance. Indonesia have 9/10 bonuses and it is not enough for them. They have forgotten that they have these bonuses only because CoT expelled Romania from Southeast Asia although it was not in favour of Bulgaria and CoT as a whole. Had we left Romania there, Bulgaria would enjoy the bonuses from the original Romanian regions and would have one less enemy front at ts doorsteps.
But we prefered to help an ally than to sacrifice it for our benefits.
Was this so long ago as to be forgotten and Indonesian players write such articles - here and here?
Is Indonesia ready to respond as per what CoT have done for them? Is Indonesia ready to give up from the attack on the African gold mine in favour of CoT? We are not fools and we all know that a Brazil-Indonesia conflict will have negative impact on CoT.
An I am sure all parties involved are aware of the fact that it is Bulgaria who can decide whether South Africa can have the gold mine or not in the first place and Bulgaria can very easily make this conflict meaningless.
To the Brazilian players who say "CoT = Circle of Traitors?":
Really? To what end? CoT owes Brazil nothing and Brazil owes CoT nothing, until you stay neutral. But Last night some Brazilians fought for Bulgaria and some fought for Greece. Why shall we give YOU the gold mine then? You have to decide what you want and whome you want to be an ally with and then claim loyalty.
So, be grown-ups and settle this issue peacefully or both Brazil and Indonesia on one side and CoT on the other will cry, empty handed.
I don't want Greece to be victoriuos at the end. Do you?
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А бразилските мангали като врещяха, преди 4-5 дена в шаутове, "COT = Cirlce Of Traitors", като изгладнели маймуни.. та чак и туркжентинци започнаха да врякат покрай тях.
Казах го и под една друга статия, видя се кои са ни истинските приятели и съюзници, вчера и онзи ден : )
Добра статия, така или иначе о/
Както виждаш и тях съм ги "засегнал". И двете страни се държат неблагодарно.
COT takes better citizens from brazil to echile, now wants a weak brasileans join to Two. Spanish RL guys like Big Gil are chileans now, so... eSpain wants brazil more than eArgentine. Nice ppl spain and chile 😛 Brazil? Brazil are divide and semiTO with farmer citizens
Браво за статията,много добре написано!
The true sad story...
"Те не се държаха като действащ член на CoT. Те не поставиха приоритета си върху съюза."
И затова ще бъдат наказани. Аз лично ще пледирам за това.
ти си никой да пледираш за какото и да е, може само нко държава да поиска съдът да се произнесе, ти нямаш думата.
Я се земете малко в ръцете като разглезени деца почнахте, България сама вкара целия съюз в криза и сега е реме да си оправим нашите бакии и да помогнем да бъде решена тази криза.
Ако никой не е разбрал още, абдикацията на България от отговорност по полския въпрос допринесе за тази криза на лидерсто в съюза, допълнено с факата, че само българи са на всички ръководни постове и двете СЦта и МЦто.
Я малко по-сериозно.
Съдът вече е свикан, Стоич... това, че ти не знаеш си е лично твой проблем
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в такъв случай, какво точно ще пледираш ти? В съда нямаш място нито право на мнение, там си има съдии които са напълно незаисими от сички останали структури на съюза.
Коментирал съм ти високопарното изявление под тази статия, нищо повече.
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Votado !!
pero sobre todas las cosas,
Hail CoT !!!
Hail Mexico !!!
Hail Bulgaria !!!!
KRUM DONT TOUCH INDONESIA CAUSE IF THEY ARE GOING OUT FROM COT MACEDONIA IS GOING WITH THEM
HAIL LIGAP!
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Being in an alliance is give and take, not just take.
Krum, what do I see is not exactly like that. Most of Indonesia is offended because of CoT HQ often taking Brazil - that's not even member - side. I think they want to confirm whether Brazil or Indo that CoT wants, mines or 10/10 is just bonus. In past few months Indo order is always for her allies, the most often is for Bulgaria-Macedonia, that's why you can see most of the Indo comments are about "slave".
In the other hand, I, myself, still doesn't agree with either messing with Brazil (for now) or leaving CoT. It blows up our chance on shitting EDEN. But still, HQ should fix their attitude up.
There is ays to adress these problems, the HQ in CoT is not the decision maker, Indonesia has the right like everyone else for their own war and with the ne air strike mechanics that is very much easier and posible now.
At least wait out for the elections to go by as we all know that the last days of mandates are slow. There will be ne SCs elected and there will be a summit at which Indonesia can put forward it's problems. This is the ay to go.
ndonesia is not giving you something ?? what about the full support for Bulgaria in these 3-4 months since they actualy dont have any war ?
I am not taking a side. Read again the article.
Not taking a side you said ?
So give us reason why we couldn't take Western Cape ?
Because of Brazil's damage bigger than Indos have ?
You afraid of them ?
shame on you 🙂
Cot hq should be carrefull about the desicions they take about Indonesia coz we are going in a package
apology but I understand the following of your affirmations.
that any contry member of CoT can say anything against Indonesia or Macedonia or bouth live the alliance? because both countries (indonesia and macedonia) have alot of dmg and never mind that at any minute, not always, local strategies are not the most favorable for the alliance.
its correct this? or what? only for understand your point of view.
thx for response to me 😃
in the last 3 months we don't have a war, CoT always said eIndo help allies and we doing that..but what CoT do, they alaways make eIndo as a CoT slaves and never give a war to eIndo..we will fight now
thanks for your support brother Macedonia
hail LiGap !!!
Satria Pandawa, my questions were for Angeldim, and I must say that your affirmations are not responding so consulted.
about this "in the last 3 months we don't have a war" I point out that it is wrong because in these three months indonesia conquered parts of Australia, Malaysia and the Philippines and now have constant resistance wars.
then, Indonesia HAVE A LOT of war... another thing is that these wars are not weight or difficult for you. or not?
I mean you have wars, boring wars maybe. As has Chile with Australia. 🙁
are you and Krum Bulgaria and Macedonia? Don't answer both are not, so discuss what you want, just don't speak in the name of the rest of the players from those countries or CoT in general.
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an alliance that prefers Brazil, who are not COT, over Indonesia just because they have more damage....then that's a circle of traitors
AN😨:: yes
Votado..HAIL COT, muerte a los falsos aliados que se venden por un puñado de ORO..
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Indo is the core of CoT
respect the origins
There is no Core or no Core in CoT, however yes Indo is a member. Though this conflict is easy to avoid in general and to fix, but CoT has become reactionary and not active it needs to reevaluate it's position on many issues and step up to the next level of it's development.
Maybe it needs some fresh blood to give it ne impulse in the structures I don't know, but it is obvious that it has lost steam and is now standing in one spot while others are moving.
When there is more then 2 alliances, one cannot afford to stop developing and bettering himself even for a moment it is a constant process and when some people get tired or loose energy others should take over.
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Es cierto que a Indo se le escapan las cabras pal monte algunas veces....MKD no deberá reaccionar de esa forma.
Indo ya intentó quitarle una región a NZ sin permiso una vez, sólo para poder tener el 10/10.
Arreglen sus problemas y enfréntenlos, no actúen como un puñado de pussies.
Ти нещо да не си станал капцитета по външните въпроси, срещу кой още ще пишеш през следващите дни, че последните 2 седмици имаш повече статии от предишните 2 години в играта.....
Русия, след това любимата Полша, после Македония, сега Индонезия и Бразилия, кой е следащия....
Проблема е прост, Индонезия нямат накъде да си насочат енергията и от половин година нямат сериозна война, ако се беше случило с нас да сме разтурили 5 съюза в това време.
Можеше да им се насочи енергията към Хърватска но ние пак се праихме на разсения колко месеца вече и сега се чудим защо се получават конфликти. Тогава беше да не разсърдим сърбите, после поляците е оня ден, ни едните ни другите ги имаше във двете важни битки.
скоро ще е капацитет само на селския бостан както е тръгнало.
има справедливост и некадърността, алчността ,лицемерието и наглостта ще получат полагащата им се награда
Ти ли ще ми кажеш какво да пиша от вестника си? Я се усещай малко! За какъв се мислиш? 'айде, у лево!
Улео ще викаш на баща си, иначе се прави на виртуален селяк колкото щеш.
Каквото повикало, такова се обадило.
"What was Indonesia doing? They were waiting...."
Yes, you are right. We are waiting and waiting and waiting for doing nothing.... Our daily order and CotD mainly is for Bulgaria, Chile, Macedonia and other CoT/TWO members. If this doesn't mean anything to you, then maybe we're just wasting our time.
doneeet dewaaa
kan udah menang deskim contest, saia pendukung nih..heheheh
eh macacih? O.o
You should get your own war, this is what CoT was supposed to be, but the target should be Croatia in my opinion.
The gold mine is not really that relevant anyway everyone ill get the benefit if they're smart, the gold will get cheaper so you'll be able to by more for less currency, there is other ways to share the benefits from the gold mines as well.
Croatia with the new air strike rules is very much posible now and there is no need for complex agreements to pass through Thailand as in the past ; )
CoT wont do that, it will provoke Serbia. CoT is not prepared for conflict with TWO and is trying to avoid it like the plague. why else do you think CoT abandoned Russia?
You've been too busy being a trol and trying to provoke conflicts as a means to in freedom for Australia digging an even deeper hole in the process to stop and realize what CoT is, where it is in it's development and that it it miles ahead of where all other alliances ere at the same stage.
Macedonia Bulgaria Macedonia Bulgaria sometimes Serbia
Don't even managed to set DO on Indo's RWs. Hahahaha...
And that's called "waiting for Bulgaria to fail"? Great.
Anyway your last point is the best one. As long as Brazil isn't member, CoT isn't obligated to give anything. And yes, personally, I dislike hard way. This issue should be settled peacefully. But if diplomacy fails...
Well unlike EDEN in CoT it is the top countries that are bearing the brunt of the battles, if it is not Bulgaria and Macedonia it will be Indonesia, you know well as you were in that situation not too long ago.
Indo does need a real war though it has been too long, I agree, but this is not the best ay and it will harm you in the end more then anyone else. I think there is some communication issues that need to be solved and keep in mind the HQ in CoT is not the scape goat HQs in other alliances are as it is not the decision maker in CoT, the SCs of the countries are.
Yup, I know that. As you can see, me too disagree on Indo messing everything now, because CoT is still in difficult position. But I see that most of Indo citizens are already offended enough to not mess with Brazil now. A hell of situation.