Vergogna Fyrom!
x3rr3x
Scusate per il secondo articolo nello stesso giorno.. Giuro prima e ultima volta che lo faccio ma credo che questa discussione meriti più visibilità. La discussione è questa. Leggetevi pure l'articolo ma sopratutto i commenti, e munitevi di google translate:
Hoban washburne:I must disagree with the conclusion that eMacedonia is cheating. If you follow macedonian press there is a campaign against users that use multiple accounts and they are swiftly reported and many are banned.
Another strong argument against using bots is that this game has couple of levels of security intended to stop such things. For example you have the CAPTCHA test on random number of clicks and you have the PIN number for transfer of goods and gold.
I understand your concern and the need for explanation why you are losing from such a small country but there is simple one (and very true I must add): This game happens to be popular in Macedonia at the moment and 15000 players is not really a big number if you take the fact that it is advertised now for months on various macedonian web portals and couple of times on one of the most watched televisions.
So just face it, this game is not that really big in Italy... also your eGovernment made a mistake when they planned the attack on Montenegro... and is not trying hard enough to advertise this game to attract many new players (which are the core of success in this game).
x3rr3x: Pff just shush.. Just in the last 2 days we found over 10 fakes from FYROM .. Wow! Was them the only one cheating in a population of 13000? Pff.. That's ridicolous.. Btw 13000 users on 2 millions RL people? Bauhauahua.. I lol'd so hard.. We're almost 60 millions and almost 3000 in game.. U r gross.. Shame on u FYROM-Friends™ people..
Dr.Male😡
Hoban Washburne:
In the first days Macedonia was created I clearly remember the graph of population on http://ereptools.net/ (a nice erep statistic site, unfortunately now offline), your country grow with a straight line, with the same growth at all the hour of the day, LOL! The line seems like it was draw with a ruler!
While all other country population grow irregular, with peak grown on hour in daylight, when real people (that strange life form based on carbon and not on silicon like mayority of your Friends™ in eMacedona) are awake)
I don't want/care to convince you, but not try to make fun of us, and please, play the game with fair and not with fake ; ) : P
Hoban Washburne😡
x3rr3x
"Btw 13000 users on 2 millions RL people? Bauhauahua.. I lol'd so hard.. We're almost 60 millions and almost 3000 in game.. "
India has more than 1 billion citizens, but has only 600 active players here. So using your argument would you conclude that Italians are cheaters, because they have 6 times more players than India (and yet they have 20 times less citizens in RL)?
@Dr.Male
That was more than 6 months ago, if you take a look at the stats for the last week it looks the same as for any other country.
http://erepublik-market.com/countryCharts.html?country=MACEDONIA&attribute=POPULATION
Also I see that you completely ignored my explanation why the numbers are high. : (
Noone is making fun of you, what would be the point?
Redsave😡
Hoban Washburne
Macedonia, Internet users: 1,057,400, active erepublik players: 14,000
Italy, Internet users: 30,026,400, active erepublik players: 2500
India, Internet users: 81,000,000, active erepublik players: 600
Macedonia: 1.3% of internet users plays erepublik.
Italy: 0,008333333% of internet users plays erepublik.
India: 0,000740741% of internet users plays erepublik.
So, compared, we've about 10 times the erepublik players of India.
Macedonia has about 1756 times the erepublik players of India.
Source: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats4.htm#europe
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats3.htm#asia
Dr. Male😡
Hoban Washburne
yes, this proves that in the last times you didn't create great number of fake, cause you don't need much more of it, you have already a huge number to grow and rank up xD
Imagine a graph like that but without curves, a straight line, than you can see the graph I saw in the firsts day of the creation your country, from 0 to +8000 inhabitants, in just a few days : )
I read your explanation, and I know that you (talking about real people) are more than us, but not that much! xD
Quindi tutti uniti a gridare : SHAME ON YOU FYROM!
EDIT:
Per correttezza d'informazione ecco l'ultima risposta di hoban a difesa di FYROM
Hoban Washburne@RedSave
Well you actually proved my point and I am thankful for that. Those numbers show popularity and diversity by demographics, they don't approve or dissaprove using fake accounts as you are leaving out number of important factors. You should take a look at the shouts or see how many articles and comments are written per day in the eMacedonian press, something that can't be handled by fake accounts and bots without detection. Also, as you probably know, this game is popular in all balkan states because of the political issues from RL. Take a look at Serbs and Croats, do you really think that they would be in such a big number if they hadn't history of conflicts?
On the other hand, the majority of the players from western europe are not that much motivated around here. They have probably smarter things to do...
And last, imagine, If you advertise this game on one of your most watched television stations and put the add on every major portal I am sure that you will have far more than 14000 players in a few hours.
@Dr.Male
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/erepublik.com
Look at the visits per country, Erepublik is 18th most visited site in Macedonia and 2555th in Italy
I assume that this is a part of the great cheating conspiracy.
2nd EDIT:
Ohohooh Questo merita un'altra editata:
Dr.Male😡
Hoban Washburne:
http://www.alexa.com/faqs/?p=791
"The data comes from Alexa’s panel of Toolbar users" <<<< this surely proves that Alexa is popular to macedonian erepublik player xD
macedonian really use more erep than twitter?
google 16° and erep 18°
LOL, you are kidding us!
Anyway, 15000 in game and this evening 177 in chat, italy 2500 inhabitants and 104 in chat, mmm, maybe because fake are useless? xD
1st EDIT by Dr.Male:
*useless in chat of course, in battle you well know their use : P
Fail prove
"Alexa stats are completely unreliable unless you're trying to find out how many people are using their tool bar."
LOL.
That was EPIC! EPIC FAIL BY FYROM! SHAME ON YOU FYROM!
Comments
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/i-conti-con-l-039-oste-passami-anche-una-birretta-1722323/1/20 😒isi:
SHAME
votato! che storie 😒isi:
FUOCO!
si, io mi ricordo i 2000 iscritti la giorno, altro che tutti player reali
esatto suzzo, suddivisi equamente in tutte le ore del giorno tra l'altro xD
Edito la risposta per correttezza d'informazione.. Lascio a voi giudicare..
Reporter italiani, reportate loro adesso... io ho iniziato!
If you really think there are many cheaters (fake accounts) in our country, please feel free to report them - you know the button it's right down in the menu.
Personally I have reported few which I thought they are fake accounts but I received official info from the admins in which they told me that after investigation of their accounts, nothing wrong was found.
I know the player Hoban Washbourne and he is one of the most honest, very realistic and open minded players coming from Macedonia, he is really telling you the truth about our number of active players - but obviously your ego is so big that it does not allow you to accept it. So, instead of reporting fake accounts, try to organize yourself better and fight back on the battlefield
Kamenkovski: I still can't understand how a little state like FYROM has 14000 users on 2.000.000 inhabitants in RL, while, for example, Serbia has only 18000 users on a population of 10.000.000 in RL. This sounds quite funny...
Report,report,report.
@Stedee - not all of our players live in Macedonia, many of them live abroad. Some of the players are actually foreigners (Serbians, Turks, Latvians etc ) who have our citizenship.
And btw .. Your anti-cheat campaign sounds like the no smoking campaigns.. You can read in the box "Smoking kills" .. But, who cares? Rofl.. And Pay attention! In this moment there are almost 10% of eworld population logged in from Fyrom.. Wow!
Kamenkowsky ... omg do you receive any answer on any report? Incredible!
vai di report
See buonanotte, reportare 11000 fakes non ti passa mai.
x3rr3x, se vuoi aggiornare di là ho contro-contro-battuto xD
вие се зафркнавте кога ја нападнавте црна гора, сега ништо неможе да не допре !!! (If you don't understand...I don't care)
VIVA MACEDONIA !!!
(I don't care to understand)
Everywhere have cheaters, its normal to here have more when we have more citizens. Please stop with this crying, you are not able to make any baby boom and then speak about cheaters ..
Find your better govement, not only 2-3 clickers who will steal your golds&money and just updating orders ..
"Everywhere have cheaters, its normal for us have more then our citizens.[CUT]"
*FIXED
"Everywhere have cheaters, its normal for us have more then our citizens.[CUT]"
*FIXED
Ohohoohohohoho.. THAT was epic
Fyrom.. My game is UNfair play! Really mature ppl over there... Buauahuahuhahauhau.. You're gross kiddeh
"And Pay attention! In this moment there are almost 10% of eworld population logged in from Fyrom.. Wow! "
You made my point. If there are fake accounts, how can all of them be online at the same time a? Or maybe they are not fake...
Private message from kalasnik (posted here in italian cause he translated that to me):allora mio carissimo calabrese... se non puoi supportare che l'Italia ha perso un po di regioni non scassare il 8======😃!!! avete perso punto e basta. se vuoi riconquistare le regioni persi, vai!!! non solo tu... anche tutti Voi che state dicendo che la Macedonia ha dei cheats per qst gioco. e un altra cosa: se vuoi essere rispettato prima impara rispettare gli altri!! nn e fyrom ma invece Repubblica di Macedonia!!! e alla fine non scordarti che qst e un gioco... adesso, chiudi il browser, spegni il pc e vai fuori a giocare a palla con gli amici 😉
I don't accept that as a defeat, because you're cheating... Do you feel proud about that? You even try to defend yourself with data not truth, that makes you much more guilty to me.. Learn to play fair and then I can accept to be defeat by you kiddeh... Everyone can win cheating..
Well.. Btw, if you don't know, you can't ask for respect.. You have to earn it, and i'll never give respect to a nation of cheaters. FYROM is trash for me atm.. Learn to play fair and then you'll have my respect.
Oh, i almost forgot that.. What do you mean with "this is a game"? It means to you that, because it's a game you can cheat? shush please.. You're ridicolous... Shame on you FYROM!
SHAME ON YOU!
We are so smart, creating so many multi accounts in order to conquer the whole e-world. Hmm how all other countries did not think of that strategy? We must be the smartest people in erepublik to do this, we are even smarter than the admins who can't discover this tactic, yeee xD
Non ti preoccupa x3rr3x, presto sarà tutto finito per te
uhuhhu non vedo l'ora kamenkovski..
@Kamenkovski, andiamo ad occupare la Calabria 😉
certo kalasnik, ma aspetta devo accendere il mio account fake xDDD
hahaha... x3rr3x ti facciamo il mazzo!! hahahaha 😉
so you cover your inability to make some RL promotion of erep with accusations toward Macedonians... if you could use all this effort in, you know, organizing defenses it would be better
as i noticed in Apulia (the region toward enemy states of the balkans) there was nor defence systems nor hospitals. Did the macedonians fakes prevent you from building them?
Hoban Washburn explained to you quite straight forward. But you obviously don't want to see it. In the Balkans the game is popular, therefore the countries are big. In western europe it's not. As simple as that.
And also report anyone who you think that is multi. We are doing the same
flameflameflame
fyromfyromfyrom
maronmaronmaron
"Everywhere have cheaters, its normal to here have more when we have more citizens."
Normal?
No. There are rules. So, we report.
xaxa i cant belive, hoban why do you even bother explain them
@ Coksi: Yes, I can't believe how you have courage to come here and answer with these explanations.:fag:
n00b and b0t here 😛
But I still luv ya xD
Forza Juve!!!11
You are being sore loosers 🙂
io sono per essempio un macedone che viva in germania! if you noticed, most of the balkan countries are very strong and have many players.. its because the national feeling on the balkans is stronger than in western europe 😉
"its because the national feeling on the balkans is stronger than in western europe"
yes, you can see that in the balkans wars, from 1991 to 1995, that have destroyed the country you were from... :facepalm:
proprio spirito unito patriottico....
@Megadeathx
actually if you read a little bit, you'll see that Macedonia departed from Yugoslavia peacefully. Anyway the is a strong national feeling in the balkans. And this is war game where you can attack your neighbour which you don't like (a pretty common situation here : ) ). Thus the popularity.
After all its better to attack the neighbour you hate in erep than in RL, right? : )
U CRY CRY CRY :'((((((((((((( 😃😃
@kristijan mk: as i've said, a strong national feeling :rotfl:
"Yes, I can't believe how you have courage to come here and answer with these explanations.:fag:"
Well correct me if I'm wrong but when you accuse someone he has the right to respond to the accusations, right?
I believe I made some strong points here and I think it's a good thing for italian players to hear the other side, no matter what the article is trying to prove and the author's level of subjectivity.
Also I see that the same 10-15 players (from 2500) are commenting on your articles which ironically turns some tables...
@Stedee
I live in Netherlands, and was born in NL. Am only half macedonian, but choose to be part of Macedonia in this game because this country is doing very well. I think that is for alot of people with some connection to Macedonia who dont live in Macedonia. Plus there are motre nationalistic feelings in the Balkan. When i asked some dutch friends to play this game they all didnt care much for it, but the macedonians did.
macedonian NERDs.... post on your own journals, do not invade italian press-space. you are only frightened child. turn off your PC and live in your real country. oh wait, maybe for you is better a pc life. Saludos from Italy, mother of the Roman Empire, glourious reinassance patronage power, home of scientists, artist, inventors. Saludos from the First World.
Ppl,what's your problem?It's only a game.
There is no need of racists insults,spreading hate,accusations and etc
If you can't take the heat,that is-the competition then you better quit now while it's early.
I do remind that you attacked us first,so if you can't handle the fire,you will get burned.
You suspect of multi accounts then feel free to report,i would do the same thing.
But if you had worked harder in fighting and asking for friend support than in just accusing and crying about it,i think you would have won the battles.
Not to mention the ordinary Macedonian civilians are fighting against you,God forbid if the Macedonian military units starts breaking out.
A little advise:next time better fight with your old enemy,than a greater enemy you don't even dare to ask about first,ok?
Hoban Washuburne is the most sincere fair logical great Macedonian i have ever met and i think you are just angry and now crying about it cause you hold a grudge against him, cause he put you in your place,with his straight words.But pointlesly accusing and pointing the finger against him and the facts is slander,do you understand me?
So instead of spreading malicious unfounded statements against us- the Macedonians,perhaps you can redirect those maliciousness on the battle field???
Hey,may the best one-win,ok? 😉 No hard feelings,we respect everyone as long as they respect us-of course.For those who insults us no matter from what country they are,can read between the lines in my three fingers and no explanation is included anymore,just IGNORE those ppl! 😉
Friendly greetings from the Republic of Macedonia,land of the MACEDON empire and the greatest warrior ever- Alexander the Great Macedonian! 😁
As italian I agree with you Makedonka88 just with this "It's only a game. There is no need of racists insults, spreading hate" : )
...but about multi accounts you are totally wrong, your country make a large use of it, and this is well proved : )
Instead of fyrom I prefer to call your eCountry "Fakedona" or "Republic of Multiuserdonia" : P : P : P
(NOTE: I write eCountry, I prefer keep RL out of there, since this is just a game : ) )
OMG objectively, I haven't read (or heard) so much stubbornness in a while. Anyways, whoever loses has the right to cry, right? But then again, crying only can't get you anywhere, that's just my opinion. If you want to do something better, work harder, don't be a b**ch about it.
This is just another bot speaking apparently. Thank you and have fun!
Oh, and FYROM??? Lame... Pretty lame actually. Using a RL issue to offend someone in a GAME?? Really?!...
Dr.Male
I think you misunderstood me and also what other Macedonians tried to tell you.
It's true some Macedonian individuals are playing dirty and not only it is your obligation to report them but our's too.And we do.
But judging that all Macedonians are cheaters and playing dirty and should be ashamed and using degrading insults towards us and so on,is so unjustly portrayed and like my friend said-lame! Not all ppl are bad,so as there are good and bad ppl in the RL,there are good and bad Macedonians in erepublik.
So don't judge all Macedonians from the mistakes by some individuals who have multiple accounts.I bet in other countries the problem is much greater.
And amongst other things,you know what they say if you can't beat them- join them.
I'm certain we would have been much more better friends and allies if you've joined our side than apparently-enemies.
You know it's never too late,you can change your minds,while things haven't gone from bad to worse.And i bet we would make a deal about some compensation and return your territories willingly.
All you need to do is respect and be loyal to us.Respect and be respected,right?
Who know's maybe there will be a happy ending for the both of us????
Think about it 😉
Alea iacta est...