Honours System... From The Realms Of Congress!
HebronGazelle
Dear countrymen... Today I bring you something interesting from the realms of Congress, an honours system suggestion. I have been trying to get people in Congress to discuss it again, but I would also like to hear from the public. You may love it or hate it, or have your own improvement suggestions, but I would like to hear from as many people as possible to get a good idea on how to progress this proposal. So, read on...
An Honours System
The idea of an honours system was brought up in Congress a few days ago and was briefly talked about by several Congressmen before the immigration talks took over. For the purpose of this article I will quote certacito from the Congress PM for the original honours system suggestion that I would like the public to discuss.
"I think that we can do better than this!
I would like to propose a scheme for even wider distribution of the National Reserve - to be called upon on times of National Emergency.
The aim should be to reduce the risk of theft of funds by firstly spreading the reserve wider (making the total sum held less attractive as an tempting opportunity target), whilst combining some form of RECOGNITION for the holder which reflects the service that he/she is undertaking for the Nation.
The recognition part could take the form of an HONOUR or TITLE, such as a Knighthood, bestowed by the Monarch in recognition for services to the Nation.
The award system must be apolitical, with honours being distributed right across the political spectrum, with selection based upon nominations from Party Presidents, being made by the Country President, to then be approved and promulgated by the Monarch. This would ensure that it s made very difficult for one party or faction to 'pack' the list with stooges.
For individuals who put in long periods of service for the Nation, it is possible to bestow higher level honours (such as a Peerage), to be kept in on the 'Active Honours' List for as long as the Individual remains active. A certain amount of imagination and fun can be incorporated into the derivation of the titles (both Woldy and Horice (Privy Councillor?) have proven track records in this area).
If we do this right, the Honours system will generate that all important sense of fun, whilst generating a sense of National Identity which will help to bind our small Nation.
In summary:
- Trusty citizens (x 20?)
- Nominated by PPs, selected by CP, proved by Monarch
- Each successful candidate receives a Knighthood and a lump of Reserve Cash (5k?)
- Reserve funds to be 'mobilised' when needed by Government by signing of 'Kings Order' by Monarch
- Titles 'stripped' from individuals who 'lose' their reserve, fail to respond to 'King's Order', or go inactive."
Some Of My Reasons For Wanting An Honours System
"Increase activity and helpfulness."
Undoubtedly there will be people who want a knighthood or other honour. But how do we get those honours? By helping the community or doing something productive of course, which means we will see more people writing articles or helping their military units to have a chance of receiving an honour. There is no way that can be a negative thing for the eUK.
"It might actually have a purpose."
Providing we give it one. One of the suggestions was to give each knight or dame a small part of the treasury to hold until the country needs it which makes the honour system meaningful, but if one individual loses their money we haven't lost the whole of the treasury. That isn't the only purpose this system could have, it depends on how meaningful we make it. My only thought is that we shouldn't give them too much power as this will be outside of game mechanics.
"Increase patriotism in the eUK."
A knighthood is something very British, we all know that. Fighting to improve our country and then becoming a knight of the United Kingdom will give us that patriotic tingle inside of us.
"I want one."
And don't lie, I know you do too!
Finally, Who's Active?
I thought I should just update the public on who is active in my Congress PM. This is based on the latest PM so only counts for the past week, and remember not all Congressmen are in this PM as there are two Congress PM's.
Talke
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Sir Humphrey Appleby
NigelFarage
Max Blue
WookieO
Bruce Wayne.
Lord of Bones
Aultman
Massacar
certacito
KearoB
Aaron Mark Daniels
CheetahCurtis
Fataliix
Paul Tyndale
Rory Winterbourne II
Alexander Atem
Mr Woldy
Gego Gugula
Rob the Bruce
Didn't Talk:
Rodney Mckay
BaronChris
Kai Bloodworth
Deepfryedmarsbar
Mitzuno
XLDJ
You can make your own conclusions but in my opinion all of our Congressmen should be actively getting involved in discussions seeing that they cannot actually vote using game mechanics as we have a dictator. Also remember that those who have talked may not have contributed anything meaningful to the PM, also looking through it, it seems everyone who did talk did do something helpful in at least one of their messages.
This is by no means something we will be introducing tomorrow, and it may not ever get introduced. I am trying to get discussion from the public so that Congressmen can hear what the people want, from both sides of the argument. Feel free to say yes, no, or offer suggestions on how to improve what was mentioned above. The more reasoning and explanation you give to anything you say, the more helpful you are. Discuss.
Comments
No T-Swizzle... Thoughts?
It needed less T-Swizzle, dis is good.
I'm good with this proposal.
But the question is did you actually read it?
Yes, or else I wouldn't have replied, not to mention I've agreed to this proposal before hand.
v + s Suscribe please:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/abrelo-leelo-y-fomentalo-305728/1
Yep that seems pretty okay.
Still.
Still in favor of the honors system... I don't think the titles are necessary, but I would be fine with it 😉
Less likely to have another massive bankrupting theft
It is largely pointless talking about this when our country has so little money. However it is not a bad idea for times we have plenty of cash.
There are two potential problems with this idea as I see it.
1) People holding the money becoming inactive; and the funds therefore being inaccessible when the funds are needed, if not lost altogether.
2) People holding the money trying to blackmail the UK. We have seen this with Wayne and the UK money he has and we have seen it with BigAnt, it also happened in the old days too (way way back but I don't remember details).
I think to mitigate the effects of these because both will happen is:
1) Make sure each player that is given money to hold has a wide amount of support for holding the money from the community.
2) Don't give any one player much money and set a limit for how much one player should be given. For example: a limit of 15,000 CC (53 Gold) per player.
3) The money should be stored this way for very long term needs such the funds for removing a rouge Dictator or an 'Empire Fund'.
Obviously we wont give loads out, 5k was mentioned initially by certacito, but it depends on how much the country has to spread out. Hopefully by the time Congress discusses it properly, we pass some legislation and get a few knighthoods in place we may have some more money in the treasury (depending on what other decisions Congress make - but that's a whole different debate).
The point raised in the article was that a knighthood proposal must go through a PP, CP and the monarch. Hopefully one of them would spot one untrustworthy so we could better avoid someone stealing it. The only other extra security I can think of is either adding the 10 sponsorship idea like for dictator (but that could quite easily be exploited - and it feels funny to me for a knighthood) or having an eRepublik minimum age (but that doesn't necessarily mean we can trust them). Interesting to hear what people think on that.
Surely if someone is 'blackmailing', they normally require something in return? What have I personally asked for?
You said you would hand the money over to a UK CP that you back. ie. blackmailing the UK to put your choice of leader in charge.
Can I have Earl of Sandwich ?
Do unemployed people get nothing 😛
Depends on how much you are willing to pay.....
TLDR - Curtis you got to learn write short 😃
tl;dr
Read the article then, lazy...
I endorse this idea.
Keep up the good work
Some people like Rodney have taken time off erep for exams and other RL stuff.
Otherwise this is a good idea and could be useful however it can easily be abused.
P.S. I want my knighthood back 😑
If you tell us how it can easily be abused then maybe we can find a way around it 🙂
The part where you give players money and they run off with it. How long do you think it will take to find the perfect group of people to put in the honour system?
So your problem is the guarding of the money? Congress has briefly touched on this and we thought it was much safer to hand out smaller chunks of money to several people than to leave it in the orgs where a future CP/dictator/enemy could steal it. Maybe someone else in congress could expand on that.
Surely the idea should be to sell Knighthoods, not give them away with cash?
But seriously - my view on those holding funds would be a minimum of 20k and a max of 50k. Too many people with small amounts become difficult to administer and keep track, whilst too few people with larger amounts increases risks with inactivity or theft.
Anyone that wants an "honour" in a browser game needs to get out more.
The sooner we we see the return of a real revolutionary party to sweep this BS out of congress the better, or better still the return of a real dictator.
Damn, I forgot we can't have a bit of fun on a game...
If that's your idea of fun I can rest easy in the knowledge that you won't be passing your genes on to the next generation.
Glad to know that your only objection to the honours system is the fact that it require a little bit of imagination, and your only way of getting that across is by insulting others. I do hope you don't pass your genes on...
Right, because sitting on a browser game waiting for someone to have an idea so you can piss on it is much more the sign of a well-rounded individual.
I think this idea has merit; it has a purpose, which is to safeguard the nation's cash reserves, and adds a little fun to the game at the same time.
Anyone who spends time playing a browser game, moaning about other people playing the same game, needs to get out more.
Oh ... hold on...
Sounds good idea
v + s
Only King Woldy has the right to give out honours CC
I have had the privilege of being named The First sea Lord by King Woldy himself.
If however his Royal Highness is in on this then bring it on(:
BTW tldr but just scanned back a tad and noticed my above comment is null and void lol
Lay off the rum for a bit 🙂
Are you insane?
Lay off the rum?
i'm astounded,mortified and also a little intrigued all rolled into one at such an appalling suggestion.How very dare you.
My god, I leave you to your own devices for a few weeks and your already coming up with retarded ideas! Very few eUKers have ever done anything for the eUK to warrant being 'honoured'...
Angling for a "Third Best Treasury Thief" honour?
sound s like a good idea
Didn't Talk:
Rodney Mckay
Deepfryedmarsbar
so Paul Tyndale did you expect them to be active when they couldnt even be bothered to even do a presentation ?
It depends on how this idea is implimented, if it is a regular thing then the problem is people will be named for the sake of it rather than actually doing something great for eUK.
That is my primary issue with it.
I will admit I haven't been very talkative, but have been reading regularly. A lot of good things happening at the moment.
And the best news yet - I've found a draft of a previous Honours Bill -
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gTnXnTCOUE1B7ZWm9DkYTU0XShyslRt7p1YjEXl0RCQ/edit
or this one -
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JXJcj_JtEPRhuUDvcGdbSNTdRgG14BTYf7VO6hsWb7s/edit
Very well written - pinched much of this to publish for my party.... no sense reinventing the wheel!
For the record, an alternative method of Stopping Arseholes Nicking All The Money has been put in front of Congress...
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-congress-stop-bad-guys-stealing-all-the-monies-bill-2523345/1/20
i posted this on voodoomikes article but i see this is the main one so i will paste this here too 😃 ...
most countries have this rather simple concept to not be robbed, don't appoint someone you don't trust as CP/dictator
and as dictator is appointed less frequently and the main basis you appoint them to be dictator is because he/she can be trusted to press buttons and not steal anything, i dont see the point in the voting for other people to do a job you voted the dictator to do in the first place.
plus the dictator has to give the trusted people the money making all this rather pointless and if anyone other than the dictator tried to take money from orgs they can face a temp or perma ban
just keep all the money in the treasury and only take out what you need. then if dictator tries and donate all of it out to steal, remove him and then he won't be allowed to take it. plus you can only take a maximum of 400k from the treasury in 24 hours anyway.
what i would suggest though is to have someone(somepeople) hold 200k when the country has that kind of money free to pay for a liberation if it was ever needed.