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Looks fine to me, maybe make it 50/100k rather than 200

A couple things I would like to bring into this:

1. How does the blacklist work? And how long in the future does someone stay on it? I think there must be some way of someone redeeming themselves even if it is over a year in the future. Possibly after 3-6 months a Congressman can propose a vote to remove someone off the blacklist. Also the way you've put it at the moment, if someone has a real life crisis (falling ill, family/relationship crisis, money issues, etc) then they will be put on the blacklist as they wont be able to donate the money back which I think is unfair, we need to think about that.

2. Maybe the dictator also shouldn't be able to be nominated as a trusty citizen for the same reason a CP can't be.

3. Are we going to merge this with the honours system idea? I've mentioned it in my article as well as the comments and the Congress PM (but you're in a different one).

4. Could we also have possible nominations from PP's? It gets more people throwing ideas in which is only a good thing, and I think a majority of Congress (at the moment) wouldn't nominate anyone, just vote for someone, so it would be good to involve people who may actually suggest a trustworthy citizen.

More ideas to come...

How many people in the UK can we trust long term with 200,000 CC? To put that into preservative that is 716 Gold by today's market price.

If we are going to have 'trusted citizens' why don't we have them return any money they are holding after a fixed period of time, and then have a vote to see if we should trust them to continue holding it?

As long as you regularly rotate the act of who's turn it is to give the money back for use, then you're not likely to lose track of what's out there nor actual cash. Its money sitting in a pile for a long time that awakens the pilfering dragon-heart either on purpose or by accident.

As Appleby said, maybe 200 000 is too much...
Personally I don't trust anyone in a browser game, but OK.
And these measures in case of fraud, they OK, but there is not much you can do if someone doesn't want to give back the money. I guess people trusted BigAnt in the past 🙂

If the CP/Dictator is the one to give the 'trusted' member of eUK the cash, then admins wont do a single thing about it, seeing as they have 'ownership' of the cash and have every right to give it to who they like. If someone other than CP/dictator who has access to the orgs (such as a MoF) takes the cash and gives it to the 'trusted' member, they will be the ones guilty of 'theft' and will be the only one liable to face the consequences fro the admins.

When coming up with ideas, it's often best to use game mechanics to it's full advantage. Keep most of it in the treasury, safest place for it, everyone can see it and it requires notification that everyone to be moved. Keep the excess on the orgs. Simply find the most obscure org you can, remove it from every document (i.e the MoF org table) rename it to something forig sounding and hide it in plain view in the middle of the money market. As long as the CP/Dictator and/or MoF keep the name quiet, it'll be pretty nigh on impossible to find it. While at the same time allowing those with the knowledge of it's whereabouts, to check up on it whenever they feel like it.

this> the honours crap

Bruddeh is right that admins won't care about where the cash has gone if the dictator's given them it rather than the trusted citizen withdrawing it from an org, tho.

Certainly would welcome measures to ensure the eUK Treasury is not robbed but think other avenues should also be explored as I feel it would added unnecessary bureaucracy. Decisions have to be made of who are "trusted" individuals, tabs kept on where the funds are, blacklists compiled, requests for return of funds. If anything goes wrong in the administration then it is possible to funds could be lost in the system as details can easily be deleted in error or computer files corrupt.

I am a noob when it comes to this malarky but maybe look at a system where a number of individuals have to provide permission for the funds to be moved out of The Treasury. This would mean all parties would have to be in on the corruption which is less likely (not improbable).

Just my two pence worth.

Cheetah: I've kept it deliberately simple, because we all know what it's like trying to get something more complicated through Congress. There will always be exceptions, but Congress can vote on them as and when they arise. The law as it's written should cover 90% of eventualities.

Several people: the general feeling seems to be to drop the amount given out from 200k to something lower. no problem - that's why this is up for discussion.

Almost everyone: ssssh about the admins not doing anything. Groundless threats won't work if we tell everyone that they won't work!

i volunteer as a trusted citizen, now please donate the moniez

Done. Currently BigAnt is holding most of it, so just PM him, say "VoodooMike sent me", mention the password (which is "I'll keep it safe - honest") and ask him to send you all the cash 🙂

I'll put myself forward as a volunteer; if I can have an Org to store it in

The whole point of this is to get money away from potential MTO threats or rogue CPs, giving you an org gives them a way to get at it.

most countries have this rather simple concept to not be robbed, don't appoint someone you don't trust as CP/dictator

and as dictator is appointed less frequently and the main basis you appoint them to be dictator is because he/she can be trusted to press buttons and not steal anything, i dont see the point in the voting for other people to do a job you voted the dictator to do in the first place.

plus the dictator has to give the trusted people the money in the first place making all this rather pointless and if anyone other than the dictator tried to take money from orgs they can face a temp or perma ban

just keep all the money in the treasury and only take out what you need. then if dictator tries and donate all of it out to steal, remove him and then he won't be allowed to take it and you can only take a maximum of 400k from the treasury in 24 hours anyway whereas you can wipe orgs clean in a matter of minutes.

what i would suggest though is to have someone hold 200k when the country has that kind of money free to pay for a liberation if it was ever needed.

There is countries that store their money in private ORG's (MU ORG's), of course there is trust in there too, but, still, I know that you don't want all the money with one person, but, find so many trusted citizens don't look that good of an idea at least for me.

Good to see talks about solutions of problems which the game had put us all in

@Scarfar I couldn't agree more. However, unfortunately we have a habit of electing CPs who aren't as trustworthy as you'd hope. In BigAnt's case - he was elected twice.

And so far we've had six different dictators (although the first two were only in place for a couple of days each) and already we've had one rob the treasury.

Treasury theft seems to be something of a national pastime.