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I think everyone should make his own choice about keeping belgian citizenship or not. I decided to not keep it, because in the UNL it is not going really good right now (my opinion)

We lost ONE election and you're ready to give up? We should try again, and if necessary again.

Good to see not everyone has given up hope. Thanks Hugo Lily!

We are going to solve it another way, since the government is ignoring the voice of the citizens right now and ignoring the people who tried and were trying to regain control of Belgium.

I tried to start the discussion about the congress in eBelgium, but none of the government or other people acted. There are no discussions with other countries that still have people with citizenrights, so no plans to activate those persons in the upcoming elections. And now the government of the eUNL (only some people) are using backdoor politics with inside information only they know of. The choice is important enough to get the opinion of the citizens, but they are ignored. The agreement between the parties is a farce also, because parties outside the gov/congress are totally ignored also, altrough they have sent many people to Belgium earlier.

Go on, Hugo ! There is still a hope !
😉

Congress elections is in five days. I can't believe anyone would jeopardize our chances by telling everyone to give up.

DON'T GIVE UP

I have never held Belgian citizenship - but Flanders and Brussels are part of the UNL, and I have absolutely no intention of forgetting that. Whether democratic means are still the best way to achieve reunification I am not sure.

Thomas: http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3471" target="_blank">http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php[..]=3471

@hugo Lilly, it's my own choice to give up Belgian Citizenship, i have runned for congress in belgium, i was elected and quited the job after the presidential elections.
I wanted to quit the job earlier, but mitch rapp convinced me to stay.

From the government programm:
A sub forum will be create to which only people who represent the union can have the access to. By “People who represent the union”, I mean: President, Ministers, Party Presidents, former Presidents, Generals of the army, ambassadors, Congressmen for these two parties in Belgium (Benelux Party and Peace ATO)


This was never created or they just left out the congressmembers in belgium at that time. Furthermore i don't believe that the government has any plans for the election next monday.
I never heard anything, althought i repeatly asked if there were plans.

We're a small country with a small population, so losing the resistance wars in Brussels and Flanders did nothing to dim my spirit and my love for the UNL.

But I never thought that we lacked fighting spirit! Until now.

I don't give a hoot about the new sub forum. This is the entire government's fault for not learning to play nicely together and share power and make transparent decisions. A new sub forum is too little too late if we give up on the Belgian elections.

@hugo lilly, the sub forum was promised 3 weeks ago!!

it's not that i decided today to get the UNL citizenship, it's a decision made by al the things that happened or did not happen in the last weeks.

But do you know the plans with Belgium??

We arent forcing anyone!!! But we shouldnt force those that dont want to either. Not after the stuff that is being pulled.

The subforum is there for over 3 weeks now, and many people have access, you could have requested access.. maybe that should have been communicated a bit more...

@ Deviltje what can we do right now? we are in an impossible situation, the Romanians have (way) more voters and a military invasion is quite impossible...

btw, I added you.

About the last government actions, I think they could have communicated a bit better but the actions were good imo.

Just to let you know Portugal also just left PEACE.

I would love to discuss all of this, but I am disappointed that so many people gave up on this cause, although I can perfectly understand the anger and frustrations.

I will, and others in GLD, are seeking to acquire Belgian citizenship at the earliest opportunity after the 25th November.

We want to contribute, in any way possible, to winning back these regions from EDEN.

We are with you Hugo Lilly!!!!

Thanks Hugo 🙂

I agree, we must not give up. People telling that there is nothing done base that on what they see. When they think that is the only thing that is been done, they better get in more communication. Under the weekly news I did not see that the Belgian issue was not tackled correctly. There have been talks with other nations about the citizenship, the communication needs to be improved and we will do our best together with our allies and friends.

Sorry Daniel, but I haven't seen much information about that people could join this group / private discussion. I joined it late also, since I first thought it was a private discussion for some.

@Cocoamok,
Funny that those nations didn't get any message about it yet, except the peacetopic that was dying quickly also. Sorry, but I don't really believe your statement because of it.

I still have my belgian citizenship

Kixtart, it is a private discussion, but if people want to join they can contact me, like many people did. Thats the way we approached it

Goodluck Hugo Lilly with winning the belgium congres on your own.

There is no plan for the upcoming elections at all. The government is quiet.

@ DanielB, We CAN HAVE more voters then the romanians. Maybe you should call your relationships for vote's, or our former PEACE allies.