[Jhorlin] Keep Calm and Carry On
Jhorlin
I'm sure many of you have read about the latest changes from the admins. If not, you can read about them on the official eRep forums - here.
When I read it, I thought it was a joke at first. However, the admins want to put a stop to tanking, and this is how they thought to go about doing it. I will say here now, I disagree with these changes, but the madness going on about rebellions and revolts isn't helping anyone.
We need to approach this in a calm and dignified manner - I'd love to see a return to good British (and Northern Irish!) values, where we can stand up responsibly, explain in a logical and coherent fashion why we disagree with the changes, and do things peacefully, without breaking the T&C.
Anarchy is not the answer, all it will do is make matters worse. I instead propose that we enter into a dialogue with the game designers, and approach this in a calm and controlled manner. It is for this reason I will not be breaking the T&C, will not be proposing a new Welcome Message, and will instead be trying to resolve the situation through discussion.
If you disagree with the changes made by the admin, make your comments below and vote the article. Do not break the Terms and Conditions, just sign to say you agree. Plato suggests on the forums that these changes cover the needs of 99.7% of citizens. Let's kick off the discussion peacefully by explaining that the figure may need revising.
Jhorlin
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Voted, and Signed.
I agree Completely Jhorlin you tell em
SET CITIZEN MESSAGE
FOR JUSTICE
Also: VOTED
FOR JUSTICE
@Woldy. Sorry. I disagree entirely. No-one should be asked to sacrifice their citizen account.
You signed the 20 odd CP letter about admins ignoring all of the presidents for he last 2 months, didn't you? You cannot talk about changes, they specifically told me 'public debates' are forbidden, as you just told us to do.
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1e9Vd3nImOaW_LM1LQU0xVXOtVKPv_QJhX9yGKrsKpRg
I agree with not proposing a change to the welcome message though. No point when France, Slovenia, Serbia, Iran, South Africa and Lithuania have already done it.
btw the 99.7% of people is just a measure of how many transfer over 10G in a typical day. It is not a measure of admin support.
LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS ADMIN!
IT'S ON!
Stop being a pussy, Jhorlin.
It's about results JvB - you can't strongarm people into changing their mind, but through reasoned discussion and debate we can encourage change.
So are you retracting your signature from the document? Or is that peaceful protest?
Getting banned is much more fun than it looks.
No offence, but they might need a lesson in stats if 'those whom transfer 10g daily' are equal to 'the new stuff fitting our needs' ;o
I thought the admin was being a little 'special' with the changes but apparently 99.7% think differently!?!
I'd also echo that Jhorlin is free to do what he wants with is account wheter its to let it die or go out in a mega-porn blitz although I don't believe that 'reasonable' discussion with Admin will or ever has resulted in stopping the terminal decline of the game.
Ban shman, this poo shouldn't be allowed to fly.
Besides, the bans will only be temporary.
@Jhorlin: remember this? Most voted of all time?:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/goodbye-erepublik--1082065/1/20
Peaceful protest doesn't work here. Lana stayed. Only withholding/reducing gold income does. These protests are threatening ereps reputation, as they are all rating erep 1 star on Fb and writing horrible comments. That will reduce traffic to the website, reducing the number of players who join, some of whom buy gold. Also, it will shame some of those who bought/buy gold into not doing it again. See Calcavanti's avatar as evidence.
@Norfolk: I am tempbanned too atm, yes it is fun : D
btw which T&C says no critisism? I had a look and couldn't see one.
daniecox how can you comment on articles then?
voted
unban Kallmar
Voted
Admins, please listen to your customers. Open an honest dialogue about the changes you have implemented and be open to feedback. Many players have advised you time and again to no avail. It should not surprise anyone that it has come to this.
It's on like donkey kong.
It didn't work - I''ve got 1 FP and a content ban atm, but I can still log in and out, and shout and publish etc.
Jhorlin you are a coward
Voted and signed.
I'm usually one to avoid any sort of conflict and so I would really like to see this solved without a series of bans and FPs. However, if that is what it takes then that is how far we are willing to go
Signed...lets not completely destroy the game before we have time to see the admin reaction!
Voted, signed, etc.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/rebellion-admin-bans-multiple-country-presidents-people-rebel--1698537/1/20
voted and signed
signed, but however if change dose not occur as it should, or the admins refuse to open a dialogue with the players, then i say throw peace out the window and hit the admins where it hurts.
Voted and signed
Voted, if they stop tanking then there the ones that are going to lose the gold!!!
Voted. and signed etc.
I agree with your message, but disagree with your title. "Carry On," would imply laying over on our backs, and letting them have their way.
I would thoroughly enjoy a peaceful protest, if every single citizen (or the majority) was involved. If Gandhi did it with a billion people, we can do it, too.
signed
voted
Revolution!
Voted and signed. Im on strike. Now roking, no training, no fighting. Thats how the admin sees things. If i do nothing i am of no use to them and i dont contribute to the game.
The pocket is the only thing they listen to.
To be honest we should be thankful to those Admins, who brought this game in the air for all of us. Even if they made these changes we should not even try to think we can overpower them. They clearly are in charge and the following changes for me has been impressive.
Without the admins your favorite 5-15 minute game will die out, also I am pretty sure they don't care about any of your "pathetic" rants, as they will change whatever they feel is necessary.
I for one supports the Admin for these changes, and I don't want to give up supporting them. Just by doing nothing won't make them say Oh, we should change everything back. Remember this is only a game, and we should just face the changes.
Lord Holfex.
Agreed
This is pretty cowardly. The admins will look back, see that they have banned a large percentage of their old players, and try and work out what the fuck they have done.
Talks and discussions don't work with these people. The same people who
-Are quite content to obviously ruin their game for the benefit of 5 gold-buyers
-Censor and stifle discussion (I have never seen admin fascism such as this)
-Have no clue on how to relate to players
-Now seem to actively participate and favour certain players (see Octavian cucu in S.A)
/me waits for this post to be removed
I accept changes with smile 🙂 where is the problem???
Old players think that they can do what ever they want. That is they problem.
Banning people just because they disagree with you is sad. That is what little kids do.
signed
Voted and Agreed.
Peaceful protest is just about as stupid as a violent protest. The sad fact is that if you don't like the game anymore stop playing.
If you want another fun game to try message me I know a bunch.
OMG jhorlin admins have already banned people for debating so what's your point?
Voted and supported the idea!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/momento-especial-gazeta-mercantil-1699963/1/20
Do the art your most powerful weapon!
Jhorlin is wrong, you cannot use reason to debate a person out of a position which they did not use reason to put themselves in. Strong arm rebellion is the only answer.