[DMV3] Atlas Shrugged
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Yesterday eCanada's President announced the creation of a "Friendship Pact"(read as alliance) between eCanada, ePortugal, and eFrance. As a result of the "Friendship Pact" both France and Portugal appear to be poised to hold referendums to leave LETO in favor of ATLAS. While this move may not hinder eCanada's membership in LETO it does pose a serious conflict of interest for our nation should our new "Friendship Pact" have different military objectives than our current alliance. This issue in addition to the fact we're already in an alliance pose major problems for our foreign policy moving forward.
ATLAS has been signed by eCanada for a period of one day and already it poses serious foreign policy implications moving forward. Both of our partners in this treaty have already expressed their intention to leave the alliance we currently all share. This makes eCanada look as if it is playing both sides to see what benefits us more long term. The damage being done to our reputation among our allies is tremendous. As I have stated elsewhere I believe being a member of LETO and of ATLAS is a huge conflict of interest for eCanada. Regardless of what we choose to call this treaty it has already created a wedge between us and our alliance. The fact is we can not ride two horses with one a**. eCanada must decide what it wants to do moving forward and stay on that course. Our best course of action would have been to withdraw from LETO before creating ATLAS, if indeed ATLAS is the course we want to take as a nation.
The way LETO works is all new members must be approved first by a majority of LETO nations, and then by Asteria's leadership. On top of this restriction to membership Asteria must be notified and approve of any and all treaties before they are signed by Asteria or LETO members. In the case of ATLAS this did not happen. I spent the greater part of yesterday talking with Asteria and LETO HQ to find out what exactly happened. After talking with both I found out that LETO HQ was not notified of the treaty and Asteria was notified by the Portuguese CP, but he was told that further discussion was necessary before moving forward. Upon being told this the CP of Portugal notified Asteria SG that Portugal would be holding a referendum to leave LETO and no further discussion ever took place. After further digging I found out that no member of eCanada's government ever bothered discussing ATLAS with anyone inside either alliance. This type of communication breakdown severely damages eCanada's reputation and standing among our allies.
While I have focused on the damage ATLAS is doing to eCanada and our alliance, I must also mention the benefits and opportunities it provides. ATLAS provides eCanada with equal standing with the other members of the alliance and does not require Asteria to approve of new members in order to build the new alliance. This has always been one of my major concerns with LETO. The members of ATLAS are some of our closest friends, excluding Ireland and Australia. Atlas is built on friendship as opposed to damage, much like the alliances of old. As you can see ATLAS provides us with flexibility and the potential for growth long term. I would like to say I personally like the possibilities that ATLAS provides for eCanada, but as I have said I believe joining ATLAS while belonging to LETO poses a huge foreign policy nightmare for eCanada moving forward.
Due to the way ATLAS was handled, our nation must be able to navigate the foreign policy implications of this dual membership with tact and grace. We must be able to make a choice between moving forward with ATLAS as an alliance, or staying the course with LETO because belonging to both will cause more harm to eCanada than benefit. While I applaud the work and effort put into ATLAS, I do not believe the foreign policy implications were properly considered. eCanada is now faced with a problem, but also with an opportunity. While I can definitely see the benefits of either decision it is my belief that a choice must be made in the relatively near future.
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😉 http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-canadaball-as-the-eworld-turns--2419584/1/20 😉
Atlas is better than Leto (:
Better for the eUS for sure. 😛
Think again...
podio
fail :c
"Asteria must be notified and approve of any and all treaties before they are signed by Asteria or LETO members"
I think we can all agree that eCanada is a member of LETO correct?
I seem to recall not long ago that you snow people kept screaming something about "un uh no other country will dictate our foreign policy, nope, no way".
Seeing that signing treaties is definitely foreign policy I'd say you were correct. You don't have another country dictating your foreign policy........you have a lot of other countries dictating your foreign policy.
I guess that's the problem with having snow balls.......they melt away.
Nuh uh. Sweden, Finland and Norway make their own decisions. Snow is eternal.
Just saying, eCanada proved itself to be a ballsy little country in our war. It's a shame to see them fight so hard to make their own decisions, only to end up deferring to other countries after all.
Asgard, what else?
You're really a great alliance, based on respect, companion, fellowship and friendship!
What is LETO? The main puppet of Asteria lulz.
Sand will always triumph over snow.
Shame no one seems to know how to FA.
Rule #1 - Know what you want.
Rule #2 - Know what the other guy wants.
Rule #3 - Bend him over, take what you want, convince him that what he wants is wrong, slap him on the ass and have him thank you when you're done.
"our nation"
pls hurry up and leave
I'm not leaving, I want to stay and play with my friends in UF. 🙂
you're going to be alone forever and you should probably just get used to it
Lmao! If you say so buddy.
"Not leaving" and "Can't get accepted anywhere else because I'm a loud mouthed douche bag who loves nothing more than 'hearing' my own voice, and despite spending thousands of dollars on this game the downside of dealing with my personality more than offsets the nominal boost to the damage and economy of the country that would accept me" are two completely different things.
That's cute, Muglack's greatest skill in life is an ad hominem. 🙂
He can leave whenever he wants, he just doesn't want to yet. What part of this do you guys not understand?
No "ad hominem" in Muglack's reply, just the facts. You never intended on leaving, but I would like to hear the noise of the door hitting you on the ass.
Seems you can speak some sense from time to time.
We cannot control what Portugal or France does. We belong to one alliance not two. Just because you want to call ATLAS another alliance does not make it one. I do not care nor can we control how others perceive it.
If they leave LETO we are not in the same alliance with them but arer still friends until they do something to screw with a member of our one and only alliance.
You saying ATLAS is something that it is not, does not change what it is, or how we will proceed.
We are not leaving LETO and ATLAS does not even exist. Show me it's alliance home page?
ED, this is supposed to be government. In government appearances are everything. Perception problems lead to real problems when it comes to foreign affairs. When it comes to foreign policy details are everything and the details here smell awful.
maybe we should leave :3
bro do you even USA these days
"I found out that no member of eCanada's government ever bothered discussing ATLAS with anyone inside either alliance"
congress was told by the CP that the two alliances would not care if we signed it. Congress usually relies on the CP and others in the executive to deal with other nations and FA work. 😒
The CP assumed it was ok, he did not actually ask. Just by seeing the charter I knew that Asteria wasn't properly consulted, as no alliance is going to approve of that charter.
DMV, you seem to be going into overdrive to damage relations. That, or just feel the need to act important. There is no malicious intent in this friendship pact, and we are not leaving LETO.
LETO is our alliance, and has our full support in terms of priorities. If, however, Portugal or France need a hand in their time of need, we will aid them, as we would have done even before this pact. For now, Portugal and France are holding referendums to leave LETO, but even if they do they state they wish to remain pro-LETO/Asteria. For now, there is no issue. If Portugal or France join an opposing alliance then it will become an issue.
I am not in FA, so I am not completely sure, but if LETO was not informed then that was a mistake. However, it should not be some fatal mistake like you want us to believe. ATLAS was signed in good faith with no malicious intent. You seem to just want to stir up some discontent, possibly because you don't like our current CP? Or perhaps this our parting present? Either way, we'll take it, and wish you best of luck in USA and hopefully its politics, not ours.
Sorry, I'm staying mate. I never said the intent was malicious, I'm saying it was handled very poorly. The fact is with Portugal and France both looking to leave LETO after this was formed it makes us all look bad. This is foreign affairs and we have a serious perception issue. Those sort of issues very often turn into more serious issues. I have done a lot of foreign affairs work and believe me when I say I'm looking at this the way our allies are going to look at this. I don't think Atlas is a bad idea, I think the way it is currently set up either needs to be changed, or we need to pick between LETO and Atlas.
Making a mountain out of a molehill, much?
You're right, who cares about sound foreign policy?
On the scale of stupid things eCanada has done this really does not even rate. Wait a week or two, I'm sure we can come up with something better.
Idk, the way the others in this treaty have acted towards LETO makes Canada look pretty dumb. Either we knew about it beforehand and we're douchebags for going along with it or we didn't know about it and we look like fools for signing on.
At this point I assume we got played.
:/
I'd still vote for DMV! 🙂
DMV4CP x3 !
But, but... the cool name!
Whatever this is, I would have thought its basically just acknowledges the partnerships that these countries have had for years. I won't have thought it was a secret.
At least the Government isn't screwing over Rearden metal and Wyatt Ellis.
Omg, we agree on something.