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Votes, this is a dirty move and I condemn it. Whether or not I agree with the points, this shoudn't be allowed. When they prevail then I won't cooperate with those people anymore in the future.

LSD supports for sure this PTO. If you are strong enough you will win. But if you are weak you loose. That is eRepublik.

There are enough inactive parties. This might be part of the game somewhat, but surely isn't a part of our community.

"LSD supports for sure this PTO. If you are strong enough you will win. But if you are weak you loose. That is eRepublik"

I&W will never support a PTO. Every Party has a right to excist, even when there ideas are not ours.

LSD supports for sure this PTO. If you are strong enough you will win. But if you are weak you loose. That is eRepublik.
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You support? You mean you approve, or you mean that you will not interfere?

Yes it is part of the game, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't condemn it. Congress PTO are also a part of the game but countries are always screaming for help when it happens to them. Taking over a smaller party and making it the 5th party would have been a much nicer strategy.
(This does not mean I support the actions, principles, views or ideas of the GVD or those of CreveRoeland)

"LSD supports for sure this PTO." - Cocoamok
So, it seems that BP and LSD support PTO of parties which are not like-minded. It seems that BP and LSD want to stiffle competition. May I remind the LSD what their D stands for? Does it stand for Dictatorship? Because this sure is going to look like it.

As a stupid question (I didn´t lived it so I don´t know exactly what happened). Why did The Nederlands merged with Belgium to avoid Spanish takeover? It wasn´t necessary. "If you are strong enough you will win. But if you are weak you loose. That is eRepublik."

"get those Walloons/Belgians out " ???


I don't read that Murena have order this.
And it's Murena the bos (in our mind).

And Bicky is not exactly Wallon i think...

@slivever: At the moment you are the boss and BP has an election with multiple candidates tomorrow. So claiming Murena to be the boss already is a bit premature *and* has a certain undemocratic notion to it (think Medvedev being installed by Putin). Then again, democracy and BP, as we can see...

And I don't care if Bicky is walloon or flemish, or one of the german speaking belgians, he's part of the PTO, that's what matters 🙂

While I strongly object to the views as portrayed by CreveRoeland and his GVD, this hostile takeover by these BP-members cannot be condoned. With the current fragile coexistence between Dutch and Belgians, these kind of acts will only prove to be detrimental to the process of unity between our two peoples. I strongly urge the BP-members to reconsider their action as it will sow the seeds of insurmountable distrust between the BP and other parties.

@slivever: Who said Murena ordered this?

Yes, indeed, Today the GVD, tomorrow GLD or I&W?

For us, member of the Old BP, Murena is already our leader (after ThomasRed).

But, if he is our leader, I'm sure he (or ThomasRed) is not able to stop this. (i'm not thinking Bicky will win, so...)

He, Creve, you don't spy us anymore?

Voted because I'm ashamed of your behavior.

Whose behaviour? Creves?

I agree with Olv007, this is just durty. If this PTO succeeds I'll leave the BP as I will have nothing to do anymore with this ashaming behavior.

Naming Murena your leader because he's an old BP, leaving no chance for the new : Ashaming. Really, I am deeply sorry about this. But this just ****.

I thought the Belgian Party was for democracy and the Union, this is just against democracy and even more against the Union. By destroying the party Creve will raise a new one with even more support than before.

It might be part of the game, but I despise you do it within your own country !

"If this PTO succeeds I'll leave the BP as I will have nothing to do anymore with this ashaming behavior."

Why only if it succeeds?

"Naming Murena your leader because he's an old BP, leaving no chance for the new : Ashaming. Really, I am deeply sorry about this. But this just ****."

It's called a Medvedev in my book 🙂

And you are totally right: the actions of various BP members are all very anti-union. Some of you might still be okay though, and we'll find out soon who those are and who aren't.

If it doesn't succeed and Olv007 is named PP we might have a chance to save what is left of our esteem. We might be able to save the Belgian Party and redress course.

I believe this is possible, if this fails, I will leave. The Belgian Party has done great things for the Union, but we can't deny that they are now destroying everything they fought for.

I despise it and can only hope they won't succeed...

@John de Lange: Wise question: "You support? You mean you approve, or you mean that you will not interfere?"
I will not interfere, I do think LSD members will not interfere either. But as in the outcome this party will be changed from policy it is fine. If the army will be send in, like Frerk the Minister of Defense wants, it will be a strange thing. Democracy ordered by the arms. :/

This is so sad.. What are you guys doing :/

Joined GVD, will vote Roeland.

@cocoamok: So you think that if the GVD is smashed today, it will not turn up stronger? You think that our opinions, our voices will be stiffled?

@John The Lange, I do not support this PTO and I was not informed about it. That's why I'm ashamed of what they are trying to do. I will fight for this country, for the "Good BP" and for all the citizens who want a united eUNL where it's good to live.

Not that you can call such thing democratic.

Olv or any soon-to-be BP Party Presidents. do any of you have a comment on this?

@olv007: Ah, good, it was a bit unclear who you were referring too 🙂

Anyway, even though you're a political opponent, I wish you good luck, and hope for you that there's enough of the "good BP" left to turn this around.

I am disgusted by the tactics used. The eUNL has never supported a PTO from not even an enemy government but now we have it happening in our own country. Shame on those people!!! I will pursue consequences for you that are involved!!!!

*sigh*

for info Bicky is flemish lol

I voted bicky.

Ah, good to know that.

"get those Walloons/Belgians out of this party. "

so... that is democracy for you ?

The keyword is 'those', the ones that don't care about democracy and only want to takeover the party for the sole perpose to annoy and destroy.

democracy does not equal tyranny by majority, mjewels.

And this is democracy? Absolutely disgraceful, this is how we work for a union? The Belgian Party is a party of hypocrits.

Cocoamok, surely you realise this will harm your reputation?

Thomas, with all due respect: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/political-take-over-in-gvd-939608/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/poli[..]/1/20

hm, the big names of BP on the role
who would have tought that, sigh...

when there is a takover, can they take out all the gold of a party?

Bicky is flemish and he want the best for the GVD futur

@blackshark: If he really wants that, then why does he not start talking to us, the GVD members?

Not so strange at all.... Or did you think WW II (RL) ended because the Allies drank tea and ate scones with the Third Reich?

Wat is dit voor een idioterie zeg. We zijn het er niet mee eens, dus we PTOen hun maar even? Schaam jullie, BP. Alsof jullie nog niet genoeg macht hebben.

Altough i do not agree with the last sentence like "get those walloons and belgians out of our party", I AM BELGIAN, and I vote for GVD, I find it's a shame the GVD only speaks to dutch people. So, altough I do not agree with this, I will vote for Creveroeland, and I won't even think of joining one day BP unless the people who tried this PTO (It won't work, apparently) make public apologies for this.

Again the keyword in that sentence is 'those'. Just ignore it if it isn't about you.

So, people can spy but not make TO.
Good to know it!

"Thomas, with all due respect"

Lots of people read that article after this one, its inevitable. I dont want to go back and delete comments I made earlier as if I didnt say them.

Voted on CreveRoeland. 🙂

Wishing you all (GVD) the best. 🙂

Again a useless argument in this discussion. When some Belgians just began nobody was trying to discuss with the players at that time and only attacking & annoying. Your forum was public for all then and this was a looong time ago. When BP became serious about the game this was discussed already.

@ kafein:
I'm also a belgian (I'm Flemish) 😉
It's indeed the word "those". It's about the BP-belgians who are doing this PTO 😛

@slivever

You´re talking about spying. Why don´t you show some evidence (maybe better in the forum)?

the spying was long time ago,

when all BP members were skill 1-5 or somthing...
thats why they hate creveRoeland that mutch, becouse he wanted the best for former belgium.
BP did stand those time (and still i guess) the same place where the new players stand at the moment, wanting a war to free belgium.

but if i look at all post from the BP party right now they can't react normal anymore, pitty...



when commes the reaction of our president ThomasRed (BP)?

+1 apo and olv, WTF are you doing?!