Winston Hope Smith - The Difference
Day 2,112, 09:22
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by Winston Hope Smith
Comrades, Collogues and Citizens of eIreland
Hi all
The Country President is now, with the dropping out of Bhane & Sweet Drinker, whittled down to two candidates, Ian E Coleman and myself Winston Hope Smith. Now it is my opinion either of us would do the job competently but (based on Ian's article published) there are fundamental differenced in approach and style which I would like to tease out here.
I'll approach this under the main headings of Defence, Finance & Foreign Affairs.
Defence
In his article Ian states...
"Especially when it comes to our non-aggression with the eUK you can expect me to maintain the same military strategy and long term outlook."
I however have a very different outlook. It is my intention should I be elected, to contact the incoming UK CP whoever this will be to initiate discussions for a resolution of our border issues by term end. Now I am well aware this is a big ask but not to have the ambition of self government and sovereignty is not in my make up. I am also well aware the National Shield held by Britain complicates matters and that the challenges this presents mean "creative solutions" will need to be found. However the stated aim of a WHS administration will be to have control of our regions by term end. I of course wish this to be achieved by dialogue with my counterpart in the UK.
Finance
Now Ian and myself have both opted for the continuation of Appleman in his role as MoF. However once again there appears to be fundamental differences in approach. While Ian wants to maintain the status quo (I am assuming this includes the withholding of basic accounts from the populace) a WHS term will see 3 sets of accounts published, Start, Middle & End of term reports. This in my previous term as Country President, Appleman did before and it worked really well. It provides for basic accountability. During my last term Appleman and myself also re-secured the Orgs which have remained secure since. This is going to continue.
Foreign Affairs
In foreign affairs the approach must be different in our respective Governments due to the different Nation Goal. (Status Quo V National Sovereignty) Be assured under the strong direction of Raven Anarcho that reports will be made, that connections will be built, and I'd have more confidence that we'd have support in the event of war.
I would add in that we want regions back peacefully, and I do not wish to just renew the NAP. If the UK refuses white peace, there's nothing we will do personally militarily but we will have a few "tricks" up our sleeve that would be revealed to congress before implementing. In my last two terms as CP I always had good relations with the UK CP and dealt honestly and openly with them. At those time I found they did likewise. I believe this can work again but like any prudent eWorld leader you always plan for various scenarios. This we will do.
Until next time
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Hi Winston,
Fair article based on my first campaign article - I will be elaborating more on my approach to several issues, but I want to keep things digestible so in my first article I simply addressed the broad strokes.
"Especially when it comes to our non-aggression with the eUK you can expect me to maintain the same military strategy and long term outlook."
What this means is simply that I do not see regaining control of our original territories as a realistic goal over the next month. Regaining our territories is ultimately a main goal, but it can only be achieved in the short term through extraordinary events which would need to be capitalized on in an extraordinary way.
More importantly, regaining our original territories in a reasonable long term time-frame is only a realistic goal given extraordinary diligence and preparation.
I believe that being overzealous in the short term may simply put us in a worse long-term strategic position. More over, I don't want to make promises that I'm not entirely confident I can follow through on.
I have no doubt you're sincere in your belief that white peace is realistic within the month - but I'm just a bit more conservative.
To good sport - Cheers,
Ian
Hi Ian
I hope you don't feel I have misrepresented your policy as that certainly was not my intention. The difference is that in the next term, the term we are candidates for, I will try my hardest to regain our regions while you have opted for the status quo.
Now I am very careful not to say I WILL get those regions back because it come come to pass I won't.
But
It will not be for lack of trying.
Now I am we'll aware that you also want our regions back, what right minded Irish man does not, so I don't want anyone to read my article thinking that as I said the emphasis is what's achievable in this term coming.
Now at the end of the month it may come to pass you were right and I was wrong but until we try we will never know.
Also to good sport
whs
Apologies for any typos but man it's hard writing long replies on the iPhone. Lol.
haha pretty good to see two candidates respect eachother like this 🙂
Maybe the one who lose should become like First lady or something? jk
Lol, what?
Funny idea.
Got it by looking two of them being too friendly to eachother. That's rare around here haha
I lold 😛
Ian E CoIeman voted this.
Is that a yes?
Rise Up!
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Voted
I didn't like the last time Raven was heavily involved with FA. It was one of our poorest stages and he made us sign MPP's with two small wiped countries.
Also as for getting our regions back. I really don't see us doing that without force. I don't think the UK have any reason to just hand them back to us. They are holding all of the cards now unfortunately.
They hold all the cards because of a) Irish traitors allow them to and b) they whinge to their allies to come and help them anytime we try free them.
Without their allies they are nothing, and any country who bullies a smaller nation like the British are doing are dirt.
That's all I have to say on that matter, and if anyone feels the need to talk crap or even insult me, feel free to. I stand by my statements 🙂
What Irish traitors let them?
Just saying national shield competition. Did you compare our damage to theirs?
There's a long list Conway, even traitors who live in the eUK to this day.
And no I didn't , I was focusing on my own damage, what's yer point?
UK by itself does over four times of our damage.
I'd like to see a list of traitors printed before my eyes please.
I like how Conway is playing retard.
You Conway are number one traitor...that article where you claim your loyalty to british crown and fighting against ireland in thime we were wiped?
Marcus, Chewie, Val.....
Bad memory or just playing stupid?
You're actually still talking? No shame I see..
lets be honest if the British co names differences between uk players and chewie it means chewie is a full blown brit and and full blown irish traitor. i also read mrconways article so he is definitely a traitor. in seanan own words he would never get a position. it was strange that he was made quartermaster. guess seanan is just a liar like the rest of the kunts
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voted both would be great but WHS is better
why?
Style, format and experience. Party loyalty and friendship is probably a factor as well. However, I feel WHS presents a clearer picture of what Ireland needs to become.
interesting face to face 😁
ps : but there is a third candidate. 😉
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MoDing in action.
As I've worked out below, the promise of liberating our region is an unrealistic and verging a misleading populist promise - in spite of everything you can bring to the negotiating table, you won't stop the 0.68 billion damage which the UK would have to lose in order for us to win a Resistance War;
In order to obtain victory in a Resistance War we would be required to over come 680,000,000 shield defense overall. That would be 136,000,000 per round for the first 5 rounds - which would be divided in to Divisions as: Div 1 - 6,800,000, Div 2 - 13,600,000, Div 3 - 20,400,000 and Div 4 - 95,200,000.
Now we have established you would be asking the UK to reduce their shield strength by ~6.8% per RW, consider your option by taking it by force:
Ireland
Weekly Damage = 1.8 Billion
UK
Weekly Damage = 7 Billion
I do not have a list of all the British citizens joining the country, so I can't deduct their damage - but If you were to take off 2 billion from the UK and add it to ours, which I imagine would be a sketch, we'd still be a billion damage, while not even factoring in the shield bonus.
-Then factor in that we'd have to move our entire population to the UK to achieve this statistic.
-Then factor in its only Ireland and the UK (apart from the top notch MUs) who can set the RW as a DO.
-Then factor in the UK is part of TWO with her superb mobile forces, strong presence in TWO HQ and we're not in any HQ.
-Then consider that it cost 100-300k IEP per RW (accurate figures vary depending on which RW ) during our struggles with the UK when there was no shield.
-Then consider the finite resource which we do not want to waste ourselves, and wonder what the UK's military reaction to an attempt at reducing that resource would be,
~S
See my initial comment under your article
I have, but whats this that you and your party not giving citizenship to BigAnt and co? ILP Dail members voted in favour in letting them in. Mind clarifying?
Jesus how many places do I have to clarify? Anyone interested can just look up who accepted one of the UK immigrants.
This was the first time anyone asked you, Winston! 😛 You've just been slow to reply. Look at the date and time.
lol
Resolve our border issues by months end? That's a fantasy.
The British will tell you to get lost, and the reason is that they're not going to deplete their national shield for the sake of giving us a few regions back. That would represent a significant strategic loss to them.
Informing anyone who wants to do us harm exactly how much damage we can buy is also a pretty poor strategic move on our part, given the rise of mercenary forces.
Major difference is Ian as IA commander is letting proven traitor Conway to soil IA ranks and it's Ian's party that gave citizenship to british PTOer BigAnt....
Winston said traitors like Conway has no place in IA and he or his party did not give cz to the enemy.
With all do respect to Ian it's clear he will just continue to lick british arse as Sweet did for months...
ILP members in the Dail Thread gave their approval for their entrance If Winston actually said that I'll screenshot the covs for future reference.
well....i wish someone published that in public...but if ILP supported british spawns of SATAN...i very retarded move as well...
Indeed, more people should voice their opinions in public.
I supported letting them in slowly and keeping an eye on them. That being said, I'm not confident enough that this might not cause problems, so if anyone else is confident that it wont then they can approve the cs. For me its not worth the risk of Ireland.
Raven, you'd make a wonderful MoFA. Said alot, but didn't say much at all.
Are you serious right now Seanan? I said it clearly. You're acting quite the douche lately.
For the record
I don't believe Conway should be in the IA never mind in any command/support position
Regarding the recent UK immigration ill copy my comment to BigAnts article
"While I urge caution we are a nation that always welcomed foreigners to our fine eIreland, with our faults and all.
Welcome and integrate
Time will build trust"
Yes, you said you support the immigration but its up to offers to actually grant the citizenship. If you're not confident, and believe the risk is too great, then you basically defacto do not support the immigration of the group - clear as day, Raven, I don't see the point of beating around the bush..
Lately, party politics has been defending unrealistic military objectives - I honestly do not mind upsetting people's politics, beating my head against a bick wall is only tolerable for so long before I stop being chivalrous about it.
Eh Liam eh accepted one eh
For me the biggest problem is not the challenge of gaining back our regions. The fact is that the UK usually goes to war every term, they just like action and can afford to take it. With TWO on the defense they'll have little choice but to get personally involved. Their shield will not remain by the end of next term, or if it does, it will be minimal.
The problem I do have is the justification of letting the UK keep Cork. It's rightfully ours, and it was wise to consider the threat of taking it back, however the outcome of that consideration was incorrect. Now, it appears ego is the sole reason for us allowing them to keep our land. A few people's ego will not allow them to admit that this past two months we could have had an extra region and resource but we gave it away at no benefit. I know it was a case of, "If we did this... it might piss of the Spanish" but we never did it in the first place. It seems like once every reason to not take back Cork expires, a new reason is brought up, all to protect someone's ego as I see it.
Raven, if I had known the effect the Shield would have had on getting our regions back, yeah would have suggested we took back Cork while we still had the chance - The original reason was the most tactical sound, because if we got caught doing "it" we would have pissed off Spain.. It would of been ego/arrogance to not to have a fallback plan should a covert mission go sour and put the country at risk- in the end nothing went sour. Foresight is a bitch, the original suggestion back then to return Cork was on blind faith - it would have turned out okay in this situation, but by no merit other than fate and the fact every action performed went smoothly.
The situation we're in now is completely removed from that - there is a Q7 Shield blocking our path, not ego. The facts are it would be difficult to take back Cork via RW with the UK's consent, it would be near impossible to take back Cork without the UK's consent. My article points out why the UK is unlikely to give consent.
Unfortunately the game mechanisms did not get the memo about Cork being rightfully ours. And its naive to think the UK would be willing to fulfill the treaty promise to return Cork and drain their Shield when its worth a great deal - because what are the consequences of them saying no, Raven? You going to NE them? I'm not being snide, you'll have to face the reality of the situation sooner or later.
Words cannot describe the thoughts and emotions this article has caused me.
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