Why are you still playing this game?
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Nagyzee
Hello all,
Long time no speak.🙂
It has been ages since I last wrote an article. Yes, I didn't do it in the last days of my presidency either for which I hereby apologize. I was a rather bad president this time because I got totally frustrated and demotivated around halfway through my term. I think you would have probably felt the same though.
The fact is that the last 2-3 months I spent more time hunting Serbian multiaccounts, reporting them and then arguing with the admins than actually playing the game. I didn't play eRepublik any more but another totally frustrating game into which I have been forced into by the Serbians and the incompetence of the admins. borissajkas and others claimed a few times that we should be happy for them being here because they make the game fun for us. Where they couldn't be further from the truth. I didn't have any fun. After a while I had to force myself to actually log into this crap, because I simply had no desire. Unfortunately I had to as I was the president.
In the second half of my presidency I didn't do much else besides negotiating for the return of Sarawak and going on with reporting Serbian fakes. I just couldn't pressure myself to work pointlessly for nothing while being cheated out of our country. When you know for a fact that what you build will be destroyed by cheating then there's no point trying and investing in time. I kept doing what was really important for the future of eMalaysia - reporting fakes that is - but that was the most I could get myself to do.
However the most frustrating part was interaction with admins. It was really a nightmare. It took several weeks to get even the most obvious fakes banned. For example they replied and closed my ticket on the 24th-25th February election fraud on 25th March. They were exactly one month late. Both our February and March elections were rigged and characterized by heavy cheating but the admins cared little about it.
I know that I'll receive an FP for this and that my article will be deleted but I simply must share this brilliant response from Andrei S. with you:
"Posted On: 02 Mar 2010 6:16 PM
Hello,
We are trying to catch and ban the big sharks and leave aside the clones which are going to die anyway. Most likely the clone master has been banned in this case.
Kind regards,
Andrei S.
eRepublik Community Officer"
In your face. Andrei S. openly told me that he wouldn't ban the fakes. Many thanks. Luckily since then other admins started working on these cases with a much better attitude and the fakes are dying at a faster rate lately but I fear the damage is unrepairable. We have a few dozen Serbians who got our citizenship thanks to the rigged elections and it seems they won't go away. Also I still have several weeks old tickets in pending and still analyzing status. For example nothing was done about the bug with the Sarawak battle either which netted us another 4 Serbian congress members.
All in all I still see close to zero chance that we might be able to play in a fair environment anytime soon.
Western Australia battle
Just wanted to add my bit on this one. There was no lag in that battle. I'm speaking of first hand experience. Australia won it fair and square but then it didn't close and PHOENIX tanked it down well into overtime. The admins' official response on the WA battle is really mindblowingly stupid and outrageous.
1. They acknowledge the bug - that their system didn't close down the battle on time.
2. They refuse to fix the consequences and to give back WA to Australia.
3. But the worst part is that the announcement has an intolerable smart-ass tone which is really insulting for the losing side and anyone who was hoping for a fair decision.
But all in all this is nothing unusual. This is the regular quality of the admins' work.
In conclusion I'd like to ask you all why you are still playing. First, the game is heavily infected with cheating. Second, the admins are totally incapable of dealing with cheaters and bugs on a timely manner which means that eRepublik offers a very unfair environment. And in such an environment playing is more frustrating than fun.
I guess I'm still playing because it's hard to quit. I have certain "jobs" here like organizing the Sol Games and the slowly dying momentum is still pushing me forward. But I'm logging in less and less often. Also I think parts of the community are nice (while other parts are simply cheaters and/or way too infected with nationalism and sometimes even hatred) and the idea of the game is also nice. It could be a nice game if it wasn't ruined by cheaters and was managed better. Maybe I still hope that things will change in this regard. Anyhow I feel less and less inclined to log in and to be honest I'd never recommend this game to any of my friends. In fact I never invited any of my RL friends to this game. I'd feel bad if they also started wasting their time on it.
So why are you still playing this game? I'm interested in your stories, answers, too.
Best regards,
Nagyzee
Comments
As I said in the ridiculous explanation thread by the admins:
"Are you freaking kidding me...
I will not spend any more money on eRepublik. Ever.
I will quit the game soon. "
This is such a mismanaged game and we as the players, the consumers are taken for granted, mistreated, and the admin just generally don't give a damn.
They acknowledge the bug, the mistake, but say: so what? We don't care, what can you do? We're not going to do anything. Hahaha! We can do what we like. Suckers!
I'll tell you what I can do, is to stop spending time and money on this game.
sad but true... I
hmmm
it is bad 😒 and it is interesting to see how v2 will do too
we are all addicted my friend . . . 😉
I'm still playing this game because I've yet to achieve:
1) Country President Medal
2) Battle Hero Medal
3) Resistance Hero Medal
Also...
1) still haven't own a business yet.
2) haven't played mercenary soldier yet.
3) haven't taken part in any PTO attempts
Just hopefully V2 will solve all the problem, because V2 work in a more real time environment, if they still using the old approach, I believe this game will fail.
Currently, there was many aspect was showing the system doesn't response correctly to time, like battle doesn't close in time, new day update problem (it will likely take 15 minutes to update all wellness), and all of this doesn't make the game feel like real time, even though the game was mean to be a real time MMOSS.
V2 will solve nothing, it will just escalate the current problems.
so leave the game 🙂
but first, see my last article, and translate it, you will get my answere!!!
Well I'm just being a two clickers now.just helping as much as I can
borissajkas, I read it. I'm glad that you at least are having fun. What if you stopped ruining the game for others with blatant cheating and just left as alone?
maruko81......maruko81......maruko81
Take a peek at this, guys:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/rankings/citizens/region/895/204" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/rankings/cit[..]/204
about 25 pages of Polish 'citizens' sitting at 35 or 36 wellness, who were all not interested enough to play after making the threshold for level 6 but were interested enough to move to RA and raise the wall there. That is 250 probable multies right there.
About WA, ok I agree you should get it back, but we want Aquitaine back. Exactly the same thing, though it favored EDEN that time. And all the profit Spain had over the last two months from Aquitaine to be deposited into French bank by the admins (leaving the Spanish citizens their profit, as it is not their fault). That would be FAIR to both sides.
I never had a multi in my elife. If you elect me for Congress/CP, I will lead you to Phoenix and greatness. Come to the Dark side - we have cookies!
PTO=STRATEGY
if you totally frustrated dont play this game again XP
Sorry, but we are not EDEN here. You won't earn brownie points here with "EDEN cheats, too" arguments. Especially not when your own PTO team is in the process of cheating us out of our country. Also even if you didn't cheat you received Malaysian citizenship thanks to cheaters. So you are not a legit citizen and you aren't welcome at all either. Get lost please!
And you guys are giving PHOENIX a very bad name in Malaysia.
Huazel, PTO by mass-multiaccounting is despicable cheating. It also doesn't require any strategy. Just a thick skin to cross the rules. That's all.
well i still play just becouse of ppl i hang out with :/ game is very bad.. that's why i don't care too much about my acc anymore. 🙁
Nagyzee, if you can PROVE to me that I received my citizenship by cheating, I will request Serbian citizenship back and vote for the Malaysian candidates till I get it back.There was a mass reversion of citizenships by the admins a month and a bit ago, few from my units got their citizen status returned to Serbian, but mine stayed Malaysian. In my opinion, this indicates that the admins probably reversed unfair citizenships and the remainder is fair. If you can convince me otherwise, I will do as I just said.
If you can't, I am trying to gain a strategic advantage for my ecountry by being a Malaysian citizen, so I am here to stay, otherwise. You see, we are outgunned by Poles, outspent by eUSA and eSpain and our alliance must resort to surprise tactic and better strategy to balance the scales. I am for any FAIR and ALLOWED method. I am against CHEATING regardless of the side. Prove it to me, and I will do my best to remove its repercussions. But as these citizenships got reverted (and I assume multies and zombie masters banned), then there is no reason to punish this TO attempt further. We will invite our friends to continue applying for malaysian citizenship, you do the same, and may the more numerous side win the election.
The admins reversed only the citizenships that were provided by HajdukVeljko thanks to a bug exploit. (He distributed 9 citizenships with only 3 passes.)
Here I'm talking about using multiaccounts to push the Serbian party into top 5 and to vote in their candidates. How many banned Serbian fakes do I have to show you for you to leave? I think I can show around 100.
nagyzee, in all honesty - even at my stage, i dunno why i am still playing. 2 months ago, after all the bullshit during the CP election, i was going to quit for good. But nice people in the game, particularly those on my side of course, pulled back into it. it's a hobby, it's an addicition, but i managed to tone my activity down for 1month. by default of lack of resistance - i got to my CP position now.
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so, why am i playing? for fun i hope.
Nagyzee, this is your first article, when I totally agreed with your all words.
Respect.
Voted.
Me? Community. This game is just formality. Who cares with WA? Who cares with bunchload of gold? Who cares with eWorld Domination. I care about community.
Gimli1974 = An illegal immigrant who got his citizenship application approved by an illegitimate congressman that managed to get into Congress because of phantom voters!
By the way, none of you eSerbians sincerely care about this country at all!
As soon as you get eMalaysian citizenship, you don't even stay here for one day. Nope, most of the time you guys would be overseas, especially in a region conquered by eSerbia. The only reason you would come back here is solely for Party President & Congress Elections! Duh!
Oh, as for your eSerbian Congressmen, they leave this country AFTER using up ALL their citizenship passes by approving eSerbians & proposing 2 law proposals that don't benefit the country at all!
You eSerbian PTOers are the PARASITES of this country!
this is true...
Hi
I dont care about PTO, its part of the game but if its done by multies than the admins should ban all multies
I'm still playing because of:
-The eRep forums. There are some amazing people there
-I feel a certain duty to eMalaysia to stay
-I want to be around long enough to tell stories to new players, of things only a very few remember
Too much time invested to not sign on everyday and at least be a 2 clicker. One thing to remember though is there were people playing before us and there will be people playing after us.
I honestly don't know why I'm still playing. I've been 2 clickin for the longest time and the only interest i have left in this game is the outcome of V2. If it makes more problems than improvements I'm outta here..and considering how well managed it is now, I'm preparing for the worst.
Me? Community. This game is just formality. Who cares with WA? Who cares with bunchload of gold? Who cares with eWorld Domination. I care about community.*
^ what he said.
Bujel's second account got banned yesterday, he refused to make another account yet he stayed in the channels until now. I don't know how do you see this game exactly, but what makes this a game is its community. We see at each other in the real life every month when we are available, have fun together, then when we get back we start playing erepublik to get in touch with each other- yes, the game itself is just a formality.
So if you wish you can continue your struggle to get WA back or keep whining about it, if you managed to get it back, eIndonesian community will most likely be disappointed, but the community made them stay and get over it.
Therefore what made you like this? Hmm... I suppose because you are a Hungarian, yet you are playing your role in eMalaysia. Nothing is wrong with that, but you cannot integrate to their community as much as we do.
My suggestion would be: get a flight ticket, go to Kuala Lumpur, try and see if you can hit CDV on his head. Laugh together with the existing erepublik's Malaysian community.
With utmost respect.
As usual, a nice long-winded comment from Ciric Nemanja.
I break eRepublik rules? Whatever!
As for your own personal bad luck story, I choose to hold my peace!
I "whined" about WA because the admins openly broke their rules there. They admitted that it was a bug and didn't fix the bug exploit. They even asked players to exploit the bugs with battles not closing on time. Which is just totally retarded.
And thanks for reporting my article.😃 If you reported it for the published mail, then fine. If you reported it for accusations of multiaccounting without proof then you are on a wrong track though. I have lots of proof. For example 100+ banned Serbian accounts in Malaysia to begin with.
Sychev, you don't have to meet IRL to have a good community. Also I could easily go to the Hungarian eRepublik meetings despite being an eMalaysian and I follow eHungary, too.
Tbh thinking about it eRepublik's community has nice people and aspects but as a whole it is nothing spectacular. Another game I play has a lot better community on average. eRepublik is filled with people who hate other countries or have strong prejudices, etc. I wouldn't label this as an open-minded community as a whole. But that's why I'm here in eMalaysia. In small countries with an international community all this nationalism and hate is largely missing luckily.
I could tell you what I reported you for, but that wouldn't be any fun. Just trust me, I've made hundreds of reports/tickets, I know what I'm doing 🙂
-= Spykerman =-
Yes, I know it's 'whatever' to you. In civilised eCountries civil servants that break eRep rules with state orgs get booted. Lots more civilisation we need to import here 🙂
-= Hungarian PTO guy =-
Like it was pointed out to you, there are battles where this has occured before, and others were penalized. It doesn't make things better, but at least there's relative fairness in that all sides are treated equally unfair.
Member of a cheater group talking about civilization +
"-= Hungarian PTO guy =-"
I really love you guys. Your team members have such thick skin on their faces that it's a sight to behold.
Maybe if you teach us carefully enough we'll also reach that high level of civilization where one shamelessly cheats and denies it with a stone face. (Of course only in eRepublik, on chat your friends even brag about it sometimes.)
Ciric says "Lots more civilisation we need to import here 🙂"
A cheap statement from an armchair critic!
Skip your rhetoric lectures. We know you guys don't give a damn about this country at all. Never did, never will!
Your ultimate aim is to turn this country into a PHOENIX-Serbian puppet! Sorry but we have no intention of becoming your running dogs!
-= Hungarian PTO guy =-
I have never cheated, endorsed cheating, or knowingly profited by cheating. You should know better then posting commeents like that. And I am member of no team. I do not take orders, I do not consult with anyone, I do not file reports, I am my own man.
-= Asian Goth fetish girl with a masculine nickname probably as a result of too little or too much love from daddy =-
I'm never an armchair critic. I mereley work within the bounds of my station. I am not a congresmen and I've been discriminated against for imigration, work and participating in politics while the ruling elite squanders our territory and resources. But you cannot take my voice away.
I never claimed that you personally ever cheated. But you did (knowingly) profit from cheating. Your Malaysian citizenship is a result of cheating. The guy (like all other Serbians) who allowed you in got into our congress as a result of using fakes.
And with keeping your Malaysian citizenship despite knowing that the PTO team used lots of fakes and even defending the PTO team's actions you do endorse cheating.
this is depressing. we lost hiyamoon today. 🙁
udah2 main main enggak enggak jangan maen yang enggak enggak....
wakakakakakaakakaka.....
klo malaysia ga mo main kasih aja regionnya buat Indonesia kan bagus tuh jadi nusantara lagi 😁 wakakakakaka
@Ciric Nemanja
I'm an Asian Goth fetish girl with a masculine nickname?
For starters, it's a picture of a Geisha! As for the masculine nickname, it's actually a surname! It's ok if you don't want to believe it!
why don't you like us?! 😛
Ciric says, "I'm never an armchair critic."
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You ARE an armchair critic! Before we continue, we just want to let you know that you know absolutely nuts about how the immigration system works here. If you want lax immigration system, go somewhere else!
Frankly speaking, you've never even held any govt post in your lifetime!
Ciric says "I've been discriminated against for imigration, work and participating in politics while the ruling elite squanders our territory and resources. But you cannot take my voice away."
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Complete bollocks from an illegal immigrant!
Nobody is going to take your voice away! If you want to talk cock till the cows come home, go ahead! Who's stopping you?
Everyone is entitled to his views no matter how screwed up or warped they are.
You don't like what we say? Fine!
We too do not like your views!
Sad but true... +1
Playing eRepublik can't be too serious. I see that many people quitted the game because they're dissatisfied by how the admin dealing with cheating...
Ciric...you must be a rarity in this eWorld. coz i have lost my civility months ago. if you re a freedomfighter - what bring you to eMalaysia? I am curious to know.
I've pretty much given up trying to 'play', I'm just two-clicking.
Maybe I can sell my account in a year or so 😛
Ciric, you conveniently forgot to answer me. Maybe it's an uncomfortable topic for you that I proved that you benefited from cheating and gave proof you do endorse cheating?😛
I actually missed that one, which kind of defeats having my subscription box filled with comments from this article. You of course cannot prove I cheated or knew about any cheating which I still don't; and if the moderators did their work you'd be looking at a one day ban right about now.
At best, you can prove that some people had been banned for being multies, but unless the congressman that granted my citizenship is banned for administering them, I see no way to conclusively claim I profited from this, and to do so is a direct violation of eRepublik laws.
So how's about you get off your multi-hunting high-horse and let the people in charge of doing it do it, because however inadequate, they can still do it better than you can.
Ciric Nemanja said, "I was the Serbian minister of eudcation; congressman and ambasador to Croatia and Russia in Feburary 2009, MoFA in April - June 2009; PEACE representative and intelligence officer April-June 2009 and emaritus from June 2009 until it's dissolvment; assistant MoD and phoenix representative March 2010."
Unfortunately the wiki on Serbia & PHOENIX are incomplete!
So it would be very extremely difficult for us to verify your story!
Another thing is that your claim on the MoFA post that you held from April-June just don't make sense, especially the May-June part!
Your 1st account is Nemanja Ciric (20/12/08-?/05/09)
Your 2nd account is Ciric Nemanja (04/06/09-present)
It would be helpful if you could to let us know your hiatus period.
"emaritus from June 2009."
What is 'emaritus'?
"😉iscriminate against you in all manner of ways?"
A ludicrous claim from someone who spends 98% of his time overseas ever since he got his citizenship on March 10 2009!
As for your earlier remark that you've been discriminated against for imigration, work and participating in politics while the ruling elite squanders our territory and resources....
We consider it as "Joke Of The Day"!
You came into this country as an illegal immigrant on March 10 2009. So basically, you have ZERO rights in whining & bitching on how this country is run! As for work, we believe you didn't even apply for work in the first place! Regarding politics, you are barking up the wrong tree! Go blame your eSerbian friends!