Why a training war between Switzerland and Austria is a good idea
Day 1,186, 21:04
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1. 10% training bonus to all citizens of our countries.
2. Boost for our economies. We’ll be able to use great amount of surpluses of food and weapon that lie in our stocks. The only way to use products here is via war. We produce much more than we consume. Those products made in our countries can be only exported for little money or stay in stocks waiting for a miracle to be consumed. Bad things got worsen with manager work.
There will be medal hunters. They'll steal our medals, and shift balance but, they'll bring gold and buy food and weapon in our market.
3. Constant source of medals. You will proudly show your medal bar that you earned in epic battles of the bloody war between regional superpowers. This process must be organized. We can reserve a number of battles for the young ones. Even the weakest have chance.
4. Source of gold. Our states will get gold from the won medal. Decent citizens will take 3 gold and give 2 gold to the special funds. The exact amount should be decided by congress. Even if half of medals will be gotten by our citizens it’ll make 20 gold total, 12 gold go to your pockets, 8 gold to the state treasure for each country. In 10 days each country will raise fund of 80 gold. Citizens will get richer for 120 gold. Those who do not give away money to the state fund will be on the naughty list and Santa will not bring presents for them. Also their names will be announced in the newspaper and people will be said not to vote for them in the congress elections. They’ll be not allowed to the state organs.
5. We’ll be able to create a functioning army. We will need people to be on the alert for the war to go smoothly and right. They will have to shoot in time in the right places. It requires going from one country to another to save rounds to help one side win. They will have to keep balance of this war. They might have state supply of food and gold and the medals they win fully go to the state. In case of landing operations the prize money might be shared with the host country half to half. For example, Switzerland must win this battle, but for some reasons we are losing, the Austrian troops land in our country and win 2 medals, 5 gold go to the Swiss treasury and 5 to the Austrian treasury. And vise versa. With all these activities an army will grow itself, naturally.
Besides, this army will not fight for the other countries' interest. This army will have a real task on daily basis for the good of its own country.
6. Natural Enemy? No! Natural friends. If one of our countries becomes an aim of invasion the other have opportunity to act quickly to overrun the territories and save it from invasion. If we had the Austrians as natural friends they would have taken most of our regions before the Germans.
We, small countries, must help each other. We have a lot in common. German roots, international populations, size, vulnerability to the big neighbor countries.
Rules of war.
1. Defender must win.
2. Keep 2 rounds gap for the defending side.
3. Tanks keep fire for the first 8 battles if things go right.
4. Tanks/Army steps in if the gap is less then two.
5. There are reserved rounds for the young ones.
6. No MPPs. As soon as there is an MPP we shut the war down.
Funds.
Each country raises funds
1. Army fund, to straighten war if something goes wrong.
2. Resistance fund, to liberate regions in worst case scenario
3. Party fund, to create party after liberation in worst case scenario
Those funds are raised separately by both countries but are used as one for one side if necessary.
It means if one side is erased the other side dedicates all its funds to liberate the other in fair share, of course.
This is a game. Stop being grown ups, take risk, make fun!
P.S. I wish this article were republished in the Austrian media. Any Austrian citizen can publish it in his/her newspaper. Since our president expressed approval to this idea, that could be a state Switzerland newspaper. We need our societies to discuss this idea.
2. Boost for our economies. We’ll be able to use great amount of surpluses of food and weapon that lie in our stocks. The only way to use products here is via war. We produce much more than we consume. Those products made in our countries can be only exported for little money or stay in stocks waiting for a miracle to be consumed. Bad things got worsen with manager work.
There will be medal hunters. They'll steal our medals, and shift balance but, they'll bring gold and buy food and weapon in our market.
3. Constant source of medals. You will proudly show your medal bar that you earned in epic battles of the bloody war between regional superpowers. This process must be organized. We can reserve a number of battles for the young ones. Even the weakest have chance.
4. Source of gold. Our states will get gold from the won medal. Decent citizens will take 3 gold and give 2 gold to the special funds. The exact amount should be decided by congress. Even if half of medals will be gotten by our citizens it’ll make 20 gold total, 12 gold go to your pockets, 8 gold to the state treasure for each country. In 10 days each country will raise fund of 80 gold. Citizens will get richer for 120 gold. Those who do not give away money to the state fund will be on the naughty list and Santa will not bring presents for them. Also their names will be announced in the newspaper and people will be said not to vote for them in the congress elections. They’ll be not allowed to the state organs.
5. We’ll be able to create a functioning army. We will need people to be on the alert for the war to go smoothly and right. They will have to shoot in time in the right places. It requires going from one country to another to save rounds to help one side win. They will have to keep balance of this war. They might have state supply of food and gold and the medals they win fully go to the state. In case of landing operations the prize money might be shared with the host country half to half. For example, Switzerland must win this battle, but for some reasons we are losing, the Austrian troops land in our country and win 2 medals, 5 gold go to the Swiss treasury and 5 to the Austrian treasury. And vise versa. With all these activities an army will grow itself, naturally.
Besides, this army will not fight for the other countries' interest. This army will have a real task on daily basis for the good of its own country.
6. Natural Enemy? No! Natural friends. If one of our countries becomes an aim of invasion the other have opportunity to act quickly to overrun the territories and save it from invasion. If we had the Austrians as natural friends they would have taken most of our regions before the Germans.
We, small countries, must help each other. We have a lot in common. German roots, international populations, size, vulnerability to the big neighbor countries.
Rules of war.
1. Defender must win.
2. Keep 2 rounds gap for the defending side.
3. Tanks keep fire for the first 8 battles if things go right.
4. Tanks/Army steps in if the gap is less then two.
5. There are reserved rounds for the young ones.
6. No MPPs. As soon as there is an MPP we shut the war down.
Funds.
Each country raises funds
1. Army fund, to straighten war if something goes wrong.
2. Resistance fund, to liberate regions in worst case scenario
3. Party fund, to create party after liberation in worst case scenario
Those funds are raised separately by both countries but are used as one for one side if necessary.
It means if one side is erased the other side dedicates all its funds to liberate the other in fair share, of course.
This is a game. Stop being grown ups, take risk, make fun!
P.S. I wish this article were republished in the Austrian media. Any Austrian citizen can publish it in his/her newspaper. Since our president expressed approval to this idea, that could be a state Switzerland newspaper. We need our societies to discuss this idea.
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i have no problem with this IF AUSTRIA AGREES
and only if !
Yes, but why training war?
I really like the idea.
Declaring Austria as our NE wasn't the thing to do for the moment but if we could organize such a training war, that could be very fun and profitable for both our countries.
Unfortunately, they now have a MPP with Hungary so we won't be able to organize that in the following days.
It's a great idea, I love it! But I think that there is NO WAY we will be able to stop foreign medal hunters seriously messing up the war. And having in mind that Austria atm has only one territory, it's a lot at stake if the plan goes bad.
One region is risky. If we have at least three we'll have to lend one to them. So that we have two and they have two.
I agree we had to talk with Austria about it unfortunaly they has now a MPP with hungary.
Wenn die Ösis mitmachen warum nicht?
Such decisions must be taken together with Austrian authorities. They might be reluctant to bring Voralberg into play though, which would be easily understandable.
I see the problem of the mass of german players there. Most of them are part of the fraction who attacked us.
Wall-o-text. Comments should have more space so they look less intimidating!
~El'R~
El'R, doesn't NE open a battle for free?
El Raviel
Day 1,187, 09:24
Correct! Totally forgot, you do get a FREE war started automatically. And you cannot settle it for a week, afaik.
Now, the tricky part is to control the battlefield non-stop.. ; ]
~El'R~
EDIT: actually, friendly congressmen claim that all wars were made free some time ago. Not sure if it's positive change, since it promots mindless spam of battles, but benefits smaller countries.
Considering that, you guys would be better off without NE in case you start a training war - at least you will be able to end it before things go too far.
All attacks were made free before the NE. However you have to pay for the regular declaration of war.
Die for austrians!
if Austria agree
El Raviel.
Your statement about cost of attacks proves you are "disconnected from the reality". You live in the past. You are like an old man teaching schoolboys. Most of your comment was general wishes. Babyboom, diplomacy, skilled government blah blah.... I've heard this thousand times. From populists as a rule. I can tell you've been a politician even without looking into your profile.
I saw people in action in the last war. Our men made considerable damage. I personally can make 15000 damage only with food. There are at least 20 men in Switzerland who can inflict the same or more. With weapon it is two times as much. We don't need to win against an organized army. Medal hunters will spread equally between Switzerland and Austrian. We have to control only. Push the balance a little bit. Take into consideration that the Austrians have their soldiers too.
Even if we don't get medals (which is not likely). We'll get profit from our markets. Medal hunters will eat our food, and buy our currencies. We'll become medal-exporting countries.
Now our countries are pretty much dead. And there is no real way out. Don't tell me that nonsense about babyboom. Spare it for your voters. This war can bring life into our countries. This is a real chance.
El Raviel
Day 1,188, 01:00
Migrant,
War costs were indeed outdated, I did verify it. Doesn't change the fact you need to stay in control. 15k per person? Excellent! Let's round it up to 22k per person with proper outfit. Now go look at any battle and you will see medal hunters hitting for 30-50k average per battle. I'd love to see your fabled 20 control them through whole campaign. Campaign after campaign.
But that's not to say you don't need wars. All economies in eRep need wars. Perhaps not one that you can't control when it's needed.
"Babyboom, diplomacy, skilled government blah blah.... I've heard this thousand times." From madman. It's a game. You push all the buttons you can and it works out. Right?
Last time eSwitzerland got wiped out and couldn't recover was caused exactly by exchanging "diplomacy, skilled government" for "blah, blah, just wave our guns and run mouth!" mentality. You won't get "babyboom" of thousands, no, but considering half of eSwitzerland's citizens are foreigners, why are you so quick to dismiss the idea of attracting some more to settle down?
Running decent diplomacy doesn't really cost you anything but time yet can yield outstanding results. You had MPP with ePoland in return for no benefit on our end; us reclaiming your conquered regions from eGermans, making deal with eGermans to leave you alone, then having our citizens liberate your regions despite your "considerable" firepower.. that couldn't win even *one* >minibattle< against medal hunters and couple stragglers. Great deal for you guys.
You should have read our press and irc how our people felt about eSwiss attitude, though. But don't worry about that. Diplomacy is just a fancy word for populists to shout about.
You are on a splendid road to becoming another eDenmark.
Kind regards,
~El'R~
El Raviel
May be it's my English, you sound arrogant, I hope you are not.
I'll skip that part about eSwiss attitude and why we got wiped out.
It's not related to the article.
30-50 damage are made in important battles and those are medal hunters with government orders and supply. Private medal hunters in ordinary battles rarely make above 20. It's not that we are on one side and medal hunters on the other. Medal hunters will be on both sides. Even without our interference math odds will be 50/50. Half rounds will be won by Austria the other half by us. It will require to push the balance slightly. Even a small army can handle it.
"30-50 damage are made in important battles", really now? Every battle I look at, I see freelancers doing that much. It was no different in battles for your regions. Why would government sponsor medal hunters in non-priority battles, anyway? Those are private pursuits with no strategic benefit.
"Arrogant" is certainly the way we have seen angry swissies yells to give their regions "now-now-now-now, we don't care what's your situation, all that matters is switzerland"! (after totally screwing first attempt at liberation for elections)
I just wish eSwitzerland learnt from it's mistakes and understood the gravity of situation, because next time you screw up, odds are you won't be back on the map for a long time.
All in all, we will see how it works out for you ; ]
~El'R~
El, I think it was the fact that people were getting a bit crazy from being occupied. They lost theirs heads. You and the Polish should know that we are in your debt, and will assist in any way possible for your hard work. We are well aware that you didn't need to help us out, but as an ally you did, and we really do owe you guys, although I'm not sure if we would ever be able to pay you back completely.
Now lets calm down a bit, eh? 🙂
No one expects eSwitzerland to pay us back. Something else would be in order, but it's in your gesture.. and I guess it's too late for that now.
~El'R~