Who Deserves the Gold?
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by atrawall
Recently Marmaduke published and article about who should be entitled gold from our recent gold mine situation. Despite its propaganda statements and wrongful accusations, I think that there actually was something there.
What makes a certified citizen?
Is it the forums? UrosDjeneral and Dule87 aren't certified citizens on the forums despite being active in-game. I think that I could find 2 active society members off the top of my head who deserve Gold, and sadly, there are many more.
The "Forum Certification" should be excluded.
So what makes only "Certified Citizens" worthy?
-Marmaduke hasn't done anything wrong, since he came back. Does he deserve Gold? I think so.
Then there's the PTO groups.
-The RTP Desert Lions have been here a long time and always fought hard for us. They also fought hard during the Gold mine battles and I think that they should be rewarded as well. Citizens like naroist and crueldestiny have continued supplying regular citizens within their ranks and deserve rewarded for this.
-The NPSA came here to PTO, but decided to stay and become good. This was working until a member recently illegally accepted Battle Hero MKD. They fought hard for the Mine too.
It is my 100% belief thatEVERYONE who was here during the Gold mine saga should be entitled gold. With only a few exceptions.
It's always a joke about "How can we punish people for illegally accepting Citizens?" The answer is that there's nothing we can do "In-Game." What we can do, however, is refuse them this gold. I think that any congress member who has gained their seat due to joining a party with multiple accounts should be excluded from this incentive. ESPECIALLY those who have illegally accepted Citizens.
I also believe the Lazocrats should not receive any gold, since most haven't been here long enough, and the ones who were, were supposed to leave months ago.
The People who should not receive Gold imo:
(These are names of those who accepted Illegal Citizens)
Henock Haukongo
alexds
Gjorgji Krstevski
I think this is the only fair way, as it only excludes those who accepted illegal citizens SINCE the Gold mine. If you can convince those that you let in to leave the country, then you will be eligible for your Gold.
Edited List (Since Leon feels that if these 2 Desert Lions are Excluded that ALL Desert Lions should be excluded.)
Angel With Attitude
HoHor
El Fidel
MickeyDs
Deatus
naroist
Hwy2Hell
crueldestiny
Leon Reno
naroist
Desert Lion
Neptun Steel
Jarraklainen
The link to request gol😛
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1pzu0CMwE0pd_-qcW6Eb2ybyee88GJb_z3m2IvETQ1-s/viewform
EDIT: For the record, these are my thoughts on the topic after really thinking about who fought for the gold mine and the fairest way to distribute gold. My previous arguments are now null, as I have change opinions in some cases.
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As much as I dislike Mrs. Leona and the Turkey Burgers I think they are due theirs. I definitely agree with the part about the forum's certified citizens.
Some very good points
The thing that scares me is who decides what is illegal? No one person should have that kind of power.
Ok Kanye
As I discussed in the forums. Party Presidents, MU leaders, Cabinet members and The Security Team should all be able to vouch for citizens.
Except party presidents of Radicals and NP, right? What makes the other partys right? Remember that this game is all a matter of opinion. There is no right and wrong. Only differing opinions.
As I stated in my other article. I've changed my opinion on this. Lazocrats are the only exception as they have been paid for being here.
I agree and to be honest I was confused about the whole thing before even with the CP releasing an article discussing it. The CP could have made it clearer who is eligible for the gold and who isn't as well. I mistakenly filled out the form thinking it was for people who are current eSA citizens without having a true understanding of who is to receive the gold. After reading this, I do not believe I should receive anything and if I do, I will return it. I was not a citizen during the the gold mine thing, so why should I get anything? The fact is, I shouldn't and I will not. So hopefully they will ignore the form I submitted.
Oh, and voted. : P
I agree, those who came sine the fighting got to reap some of the mining, I think that's all they need. As far as honorary citizens go, I think only those who came here to fight deserve the rewards.
If any Desert Lions member excluded and not be rewarded like you listed, then all Desert Lions will refuse to get gold from Mine $hit.
Will they really all refuse the gold they fought for? If you order them to refuse, you are a dicktator. If any of the desert lions illegally accepted immigrants, then they should not receive any rewards.
You are not allowed to say what Desert Lions should do. I'm Commander of DL and I'm saying If any member of DL is excluded and not get reward, all DL will refuse it.
The same goes for you, you are not to say who is legal and who is not. There is a team of people with different political backgrounds, from different countries, with different beliefs, who decide who may enter and who should not. If everyone played like you and accepted everyone as 'legal', there would be no eSA for you to complain about.
Maybe you should command your members to follow the rules.
Leon, desert lions is a military group, so as commander you can tell them where to fight, etc. as commander you cannot tell them to accept illegal immigrants as that is not part of the military aspect. As commander you can command your people not to accept gold, but it is their choice if they want to follow those order. I am not telling them or you what to do wrt the gold. It would be interesting to see how many DL's filled in the form. What are you going to do? Kick them out of DL if they accept the gold? Luckily for them you cannot kick them out. Unless they resign, you are stuck with them. If you refuse them weapons because they accepted the gold, you are doing exactly what you are complaining about. Talk about a double edged sword... Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
"It is better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand days as a lamb"
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So, you see that our soldiers don't want gold If you prepare a list "these shouldn't get gold blah blah." Keep your management advices for yourself next time, you have no idea how things are working in DL. As I said, I am the commander and I'm saying DL will refuse that payment If anyone of us cannot get it. End of story.
Lol Leon, that was one DL. Does one DL make up the whole unit? Like I said, it would be interesting to see which DL fill in the form and how you will 'punish' them...
In the end it is not about a measly 5g, it is about principal. I tip my hat for the "Complaining Leon", i agree with her on this.
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i m telling again i didint fight on mine gold to get any gold for myself. i just fought for eSA good. i dont need gold but eSA and some my friends need to get golds from gold mine thing. and if you exclude any of my friends i dont want golds. and if i get some gold i will supply it to a new player or to eSA store. but not this term to eSA store. maybe after EJDAT's term ended !!!
Your friends are only being excluded because they did not follow the rules of our government. Something that has been in place for years, not just during Ejdatfuls term. This isn't a "Presidential" matter but a community matter. When your friends illegally let in citizens with no repercussions then in one instance they can actually face some. I see your side and tried to come to a compromise but apparently there's none to be found.
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Add to the list Tom Marvold Riddle. He accepted two citizens illegally...
He's a Lazocrat. They get nothing.
Yeah, my bad. Just saw that...
You know whats funny?
When that "Kiko" fella was accepted people tripped all over themselves making excuses as to why he was "legal".
You can keep your gold. Using everything you can get your puny hands on to punish political opponents is not new.
Kiko has been here almost a year? I don't think you know what you are talking about.
Wait what? Henock did you take a bit of my weed stash again?
You meant Stol3n.
While I was good enough to fight for my country to get its share of the gold, I am not good enough to keep my certification on the forum therefor not good enough to get my share of the gold.
Maybe this has become blood gold now
Nope, just Zansi being god.
I didn't accept as a illegal citizen. I only said that was injustice. Please do not act as a mother Claudia !
So Sir Chiral was approved by DBI? Dont remember that, or maybe he approved himself then by using your account.
Can you make a damage list who fought in the competition for the gold mine ?
Also it is just a game and i enjoy this game while i am playing only this website. i don't have to login the other websites anymore.
I'm not acting as a mother. I'm trying not to be on the attack. Who is "Sir Chiral"? Why did you accept him?
You know i am congress member and i have a power to apply citizenship requests. I only did my duty, i don't have to explain anything to you.
That's fair, If you trust him to safely be in our country, I respect that. He's a Desert Lion so I see that as a positive as the DL haven't lied. The large influx of Lazocrats is what scares me. Also, your case is making me change my mind btw.
He's gone now anyways. Thanks alexds
pTOers won't be given anything.
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Why do I need to request my gold?
If this is the case, I will not request gold, as the last article said we would receive our gold, I do not want to apply nor justify why I should get gold from the country gold mine. It is mine as well, simply give me my share.
The gold is not just for those who apply, It is the property of its citizens.
I will not apply for my gold, if I do not receive my gold, I will be congress next month an I will make my gold through illegal accepting citizens. Being black listed would not do me no harm, since I am not active on forums no more...................
that is a good point
lol - "Nationalisation"
Redundancy is redundant.
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Paste in column J and keep it accessible.
And what is with the question, do you want to apply for the 5G? Why else would you be filling it the form?
I asked the same question, and was told by the cp that I should stop whining... True story.
It's because you are jumping his shit for everything and not presenting yourself in a diplomatic fashion like Miyagi is. When you are griping about every little thing, your legitimate gripes get lost in the whirlwind of petty ones.
It's the Tenshibo effect. He is sarcastic and consdescending all the time, so when he makes a legitimate point in the same manner, it's disregarded and overlooked.
You have your reasons and I'm not defending him, but I am stating what it looks like from an outside spectator.
lol - interesting.....
I have a long history with eSA and everybody knows I'm not a PTOer. I try to do my bit like voting where votes are needed to stop PTO threats and fighting my a$$ off to help retain the gold mine.
If politics and the fact that I am part of Desert Lions (which happens to be a very good fighting unit just btw) are the reasons I do not get some gold, then so be it.
For me it's just a fun game after all 😁