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War Research - Q5 weapons vs. Q1 + wellness packs
I have made a study on how to optimize individual fight strategy.
Force = Strength value * Wellness influence * Rank influence * Weapon * Trivia
* Wellness influence = 1 + ((Wellness - 25) / 100)
* Rank influence = 1 + (Rank level / 5)
* Trivia = 1 + (Trivia points/10)
* if you have a weapon => Weapon = 1 + (Quality weapon / 5)
* if you have no weapon => Weapon = 0.5
That means a 75% bonus to damage at full wellness and 20% for every weapon quality level.
1st Presumption: All 5 questions answered correctly, meaning a lose of 10 wellness/fight.
Using a Q5 hospital and receiving 10 wellness from gifts once will allow you to fight 7 times until you remain with 90 wellness for the next day. That will add 14 points to your experience.
There will be 3 fights at full wellness, and one at 90, 80, 70 , and 60 wellness.
Fighting with Q5, after 7 fights you'll have a bonus of 425% from wellness and 700% from weapons.
Total bonus from wellness & weapons = 1125% when using Q5 weapons.
Let's see the price for weapons. I will use approximations and 1Gold = 60ron exchange rate.
Q1 = 12ron = 0,2Gold , while Q5 = 120ron = 2Gold
Fighting with Q1 instead of Q5 will reduce your costs with 12,6 gold, giving you the possibility to invest in 6 wellness boxes and adding 0,6 more gold will allow you to have 6 additional Q1 weapons.
Those wellness boxes will allow you to have 6 extra fights at full wellness, giving you a total of 13 fights ( 26 experience points ) with a 1025% bonus from wellness and 260% from weapons.
Total bonus just from wellness & weapons = 1285% when using Q1 weapons
Don't forget that having extra fights will add extra bonus to your total damage from the rank and trivia bonus of those extra fights.
Research Result: Q1 + wellness boxes = A lot more damage and gained experienced.
2nd Presumption (No correct answer) and 3rd Presumption (Skipping Trivia) also in a future article.
LATER EDIT: Presuptions unnecessary, Trivia has been removed.
OBSERVATION: IF Qx price = x * Q1, definetlly use Qx !!!
Force = Strength value * Wellness influence * Rank influence * Weapon * Trivia
* Wellness influence = 1 + ((Wellness - 25) / 100)
* Rank influence = 1 + (Rank level / 5)
* Trivia = 1 + (Trivia points/10)
* if you have a weapon => Weapon = 1 + (Quality weapon / 5)
* if you have no weapon => Weapon = 0.5
That means a 75% bonus to damage at full wellness and 20% for every weapon quality level.
1st Presumption: All 5 questions answered correctly, meaning a lose of 10 wellness/fight.
Using a Q5 hospital and receiving 10 wellness from gifts once will allow you to fight 7 times until you remain with 90 wellness for the next day. That will add 14 points to your experience.
There will be 3 fights at full wellness, and one at 90, 80, 70 , and 60 wellness.
Fighting with Q5, after 7 fights you'll have a bonus of 425% from wellness and 700% from weapons.
Total bonus from wellness & weapons = 1125% when using Q5 weapons.
Let's see the price for weapons. I will use approximations and 1Gold = 60ron exchange rate.
Q1 = 12ron = 0,2Gold , while Q5 = 120ron = 2Gold
Fighting with Q1 instead of Q5 will reduce your costs with 12,6 gold, giving you the possibility to invest in 6 wellness boxes and adding 0,6 more gold will allow you to have 6 additional Q1 weapons.
Those wellness boxes will allow you to have 6 extra fights at full wellness, giving you a total of 13 fights ( 26 experience points ) with a 1025% bonus from wellness and 260% from weapons.
Total bonus just from wellness & weapons = 1285% when using Q1 weapons
Don't forget that having extra fights will add extra bonus to your total damage from the rank and trivia bonus of those extra fights.
Research Result: Q1 + wellness boxes = A lot more damage and gained experienced.
2nd Presumption (No correct answer) and 3rd Presumption (Skipping Trivia) also in a future article.
LATER EDIT: Presuptions unnecessary, Trivia has been removed.
OBSERVATION: IF Qx price = x * Q1, definetlly use Qx !!!
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si damage-ul total la sfarsitul zilei e mai mare folosind arme q1 sau arme q5 ?
Nice info. I always knew that at these ridiculous prices, q5 weapons are not worth the trouble, but I didn't bother to do the math. Problem is, these are not normal prices, they are quite high because the war has been dragging for too long, and the stocks are depleted.
Two weeks ago the government bought at the auction Q5 weapons at the price of 0.75 gold/pcs and less...
@ dragunov87 : Q1 + wellness boxes wins against Q5 weapons.
Today, there were Q4 weapons at 40 ron. That is even more devastating with wellness boxes against Q5 weapons, but now i've seen prices reaching 70 ron.
Very interesting. Still, I'd be curious 'bout 0,75gold/q5 weapons.
BE VERY CAREFUL! IF YOU UTILIZE WELLNESS PACKS THE GOLD WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THE ECONOMY! IF YOU UTILIZE WEAPONS THE ECONOMY OF OUR COUNTRY WILL PROSPER!
Oh well, then the company owners should lower the prices... I'm not paying 2 gold/weapon even if the economy is going to drown...
word, or the food prices that sky-rocketed. the problem is that only a few guys are ready to make gift exchanges between themselves.
hmm ..interesanta analiza ..
another great article
voted. (still, having 5 supershots is easier said than done )
you go girl
Q5 vs Q3 vs Q1.
Assuming all data from the article, and a cost of 0.5 gold/Q3 weapon.
Fighting with Q3 instead of Q5 will reduce the total cost of weapons by 3.5 (7 fights), thus leaving 10.5 Gold. 10.5 gold can go into 4 wellness boxes and 4 weapons (total = 10 Gold, an additional 0.5 gold left). The total number of fights will be 7+4 = 11
Calculating the total bonuses, the above leads to a 660% bonus from weapons (11 x 60%) and a 725% bonus from wellness (7 x 75 + 65 + 55 + 45 + 35).
Thus a total bonus of 1385% by using Q3 weapons, superior to using Q1 weapons and way superior to Q5 weapons.
@ Trump Organization : I was waiting for such a comment.
I encourage seeking the best weapon to be used.
Has anyone made a reasearch on Q4 + wellness boxes vs Q5 ?
It's not hard to do it, but I'm assuming you'll get a lower bonus than Q3, due to the huge difference in prices. If a Q3 weapon is only 2.5-3 times more expensive than a Q1 weapon, a Q4 weapon is around 10 times more expensive, while oferring a 20% percent more damage than a Q3.
However, everything can be recalculated daily based on the different prices (for example, Q1 is ~9 RON now, it was 12 RON when you made the article)
Another interesting thing to do would be to calculate the bonuses on
@adi.furk: your formulas are once again wrong... and that is kind of odd.
@ Alex Craciun : Please tell us what is wrong, General.
@ Trump Organization : Based on a 12 ron / Q1 weapon , and 60 ron / Gold, could you research the onest prices for Q2, Q3, Q4 and Q5, so that fighting with a superior weapon to be worth it ?
Remember to include extra rank bonuses and to mention different trivia bonus cases.
Sorry dude, I'm too lazy
@ all : anybody else ? I'll give 5 Gold for a well documented research with true final results.
Vorbesti de GOLD de parca ar fi pe toate drumurile. Cine isi permite sa cheltuiasca 2 GOLD la fiecare batalie ? ... Eu ma chinui sa ajung din nou cu wellness-ul 100% si sa-mi cumpar arme q3.
@ Naufragiatu : Those that are buying Q5 weapons.
Total Bonus =(200+(3+INT((IF*MaxP-IF*WC)/(WPC+WC)))*75) + ((WQ/5)*100*(IF + INT((IF*MaxP-IF*WC)/(WPC+WC))*100)
WPC = Wellness pack cost (in Gold)
IF = Initial Fights (7)
MaxP = Maximum Price (Q5)
WC = Weapon Cost (in Gold)
WQ = Weapon Quality (1,2,3,4,5)
Easy...
(later note) Only thing is the formula rounds the number of supplimentary fights downwards.
so, the correct prices for Q2, Q3, Q4 and Q5 are ?
Q2 : Any price lower than 0.81 Gold will get you better results than Q1
Q3 : Any price lower than 1.12 Gold will get you better results than Q1
Q4 : Any price lower than 1.51 Gold will get you better results than Q1
Q5 : I have to change the formula. Basically, in my formula, Q1 weapons are worse than Q5 weapons, because you only get 5 more fights, not 6 (due to downwards rounding mentioned before), leading you to a 1040 total bonus.
Oh, but is that true also in Q2 vs Q3 vs Q4 vs Q5 ?
That is what i'm interested in.
Dude, take the formula from above, put it in an Excel sheet, replace the WPC/IF/WC/so on, with cells, and play with the values . I don't want the 5 gold, I was just trying to help you. We can continue on PM if you want, I feel like I'm spamming the article (and I don't want to get warned by za moderators :D )
Just wanting to prove you're not lazy And I was feeling like giving a reward for the interest you've showed
I believe this was the best article I`ve ever read in the Romanian Press. I have been away in alot of countries for quite some time now and now I came back for the wars that are comming up. Like Naufragiatul said...there aren`t many who can afford spending 2gold/fight, but i`m sure that people who do afford it will benefit from this great idea. Keep up the good work!
Thank you all for your interest on this article.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/is-the-war-over--712306/1
Nice
Voted
It's called "getting bored at work"
me aka trump org, or the other way around.
Vand casa de Q3.....OFERTA 475 Roni
@ DjEnzo : you're right on topic
Poate ca l-ati citit... Daca nu, sper sa fie util si articolul asta:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/which-weapons-should-you-use--712393/1
Great job, good comments(obviously, only some of them)!
adi, de curiozitate, de ce nu mai scrii in romana?
sau nu-ti permite meseria?
@ wwwasea : I am writing using an international language because using Romanian would make my articles and comments understandable only to Romanian citizens.
I entirely support any translation of my articles in any language as long as it specifies the source and provides a link to my article.
Careful, more fights = more risk in messing up the Trivia. With or without decoders.
with the decoder it's not a problem.
@Moldova Corporation: oh yes it is, depending where you are fighting. You can easily encounter questions with wrong answers or no answers.
Voted.
Nice, thanks
WEAPONG Q5=2G? YOU NEED TO SEE OTHERS MARKETS!!!! (Q5=1.2G somewhere )
little mistake
Cool!
Voted