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War Report Day 1780: The CanIre Federation

Day 1,799, 21:44 Published in Ireland Ireland by Irish Department of Defence

Recently our government has been approached by officials of the Canadian government with a proposal: not quite a region swap in the accepted sense -- more a population swap, a mixing of our two countries socially, politically and militarily.

As the Minister of Defence I'm going to speak about the benefits such a federation would bring Irish players in the war module.

This is the plan:

As soon as the opportunity presents itself, Ireland NE's Canada and attacks a Canadian region. Our role is to lose the battle and have Canada roll into Irish regions, leaving two: one bordering the UK, and one bordering the US, which will remain in Irish possession once the dust settles. These will most likely be RW'd with Canadian assistance.

From then on, though most Irish men and women may be fighting under a Canadian flag, for all intents and purposes the nation is not Canada but CanIre, a federated alliance between our two states. Former Irish citizens found and run our own parties in the new federated state and operate them out of original Irish regions and extend into original Canadian regions, yet hold office within Canadian congress; we operate our own military units albeit now with funding from the Canadian state; and we maintain our membership of EDEN.

All Irish citizens who wish to get involved with the much larger Canadian society can do so, as Erepublik's membership flags this is a great time to try this kind of venture. "Germark", the federated state of Germany and Denmark have done so successfully for months, CanIre would be much larger version of this kind of arrangement. Irish parties would bring a fresh angle on the Canadian political scene, and involvement in Canadian politics is sure to invigorate Irish parties and politicians. The merger would also do wonders for our economy with the increased bonuses.


The Military Aspect

What is most exciting about a federated state between Canada-Ireland -- is the boost it would give our performance on the battlefield.

Irish and Canadian Damage has proved formidable in the past, and that was when it was divided under two flags, combined under one with improved coordination it should prove even more effective. Canada currently polls round the mid-20s in the most powerful nations in the New World, regularly finishing above countries like Germany, Iran and the UK. In a month the Canadian Damage output can be in excess of 12Billion, add to this the near 6Billion Irish fighters will do -- and this brings our monthly total up to the 18Billion mark (aprox.).

And doing 18Billion Damage last month would've taken CanIre within the Top 20 most powerful countries in Erepublik. This means on a one-on-one contest we could tank such countries like France, Chile, Ukraine and Taiwan off the field! This if nothing else should give you pause for thought of what a CanIre alliance could achieve.

For Canada a merge with Ireland means they supplement there monthly Damage with almost half what they can do on their own, and for Ireland we more than double ours. Negotiations have already taken place with the UK regarding the renting of Scotland, this gives CanIre access onto the Continent, CanIre would possess a military on par with either of the ASGARD powers, Sweden and Finland; and could match any of the ABC countries in a one-on-one. The opportunity to rent regions deeper into Scandinavia is a very real prospect, giving us a springboard either against ASGARD or -- more likely -- to assist ASGARD and Russia against the Polish-supported Baltic alliance ABC, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia.

A CanIre alliance could also seek regions on the Continent proper. And with help from local allies: France, Germany and ASGARD, the potential to maintain regions and help our allies against Central European enemies is a very real possibility, albeit requiring massive commitment from our armed forces and huge allied help.

As Ireland sits surrounded by friendly states, many long time some new -- and despite everything else positive this merger would deliver Ireland politically and economically -- its perhaps best to consider what it would mean to us militarily. It would mean the federated state of CanIre with enough preparation and commitment would be a genuine force in Northern Europe and could realistically seek bonus' in both Scandinavia and on the Continent, as well as being able to offer substantial support to allies against the usual Polish and other ex-ONE aggression that regularly comes there way.

New Faustian Man
Irish Minister of Defence

 

Comments

Bhane
Bhane Day 1,799, 21:46

April fools day isn't for 159 more days.

New Faustian Man
New Faustian Man Day 1,799, 21:51

Someone's off their medication again. Tut tut.

Mary Chan
Mary Chan Day 1,799, 21:58

~hyuu~

Randall Flagg 1999
Randall Flagg 1999 Day 1,799, 22:04

Look at it this way, we don't get any economy bonuses from you that we don't already have. yet many of us are very supportive of this merger. *Gasp! Might this actually just be a plain good idea!

Ian E Coleman
Ian E Coleman Day 1,799, 22:07

Sounds kind of crazy... what would our exit plan be? I assume some day we would end this arrangement, so what kind of condition would eIreland be in at that stage?

And would we not still have a regular congress in eIreland? One way or another, this would only work with the generally full support of eIreland's citizens.

Aries Prime
Aries Prime Day 1,799, 22:07

Kill it with fire.

av khan
av khan Day 1,799, 22:09

Interesting. If you guys can work it out. Good luck : )

Derphoof
Derphoof Day 1,799, 22:15

@Ian: There is no plan to end the arrangement. If it didn't work out, Canada would fight in RW's FOR Ireland to give Ireland its regions back. Natural Irish citizens would move back to Ireland. Simple as that.

Assuming that Ireland holds two regions for strategical purposes, Ireland would still technically have its own Congress. Although, we could operate like Germark and have Canada completely take all of Ireland, simply to negate any congress. However there is no such intention to do so.

crisfire
crisfire Day 1,799, 22:20

good luck with fighting RW's all the time and not only from enemies but from nationalists who want eCanada or eIreland to remain separate

Bhane
Bhane Day 1,799, 22:25

If the benefits are truly as mutually beneficial as you say, Plato, then surely the Canadian gov't would flock to the idea of surrendering their regions under an Irish flag.

Your answer will be rather telling about how truly "mutual" this deal is.

Irasian
Irasian Day 1,799, 22:55

I presume this idea was only discussed on the government level?
This should have at least been discussed with the Irish congress and probably even get a referendum going in my opinion as this is affecting the whole nation before it is decided to give it a try.

Russian Military Guard
Russian Military Guard Day 1,799, 22:56

v

Ian E Coleman
Ian E Coleman Day 1,799, 23:05

@Irasian. I agree. Unless the great majority of citizens are in favour of this, RWs and general discontent would cripple the bi-federacy.

Ian E Coleman
Ian E Coleman Day 1,799, 23:10

btw, seems to me eIreland has more regions than eCanada. Only logical that they join into us therefore.

Bristel Akina
Bristel Akina Day 1,799, 23:18

Yeah, interesting, but I don't see this working out quite in the way you describe.

Nothing is stopping eUK and allies from rolling into the severely weakened eIrish state and eliminating it. As much as I like the idea of eCanadian buddies rolling in to save the day.

We've already had major trouble trying to fight for our own territories without rogue Spoland tanks ruining our restoration.

I can see a majority of oldfags in eIreland staying in eIreland, and not contributing.

New Faustian Man
New Faustian Man Day 1,799, 23:39

A referendum will be held before any definitive decision is made ofcourse. This article is just floating the idea.

HAUGH HAS A BIG COCK
HAUGH HAS A BIG COCK Day 1,799, 23:53

Well float the idea back up your arse!

Winston Hope Smith
Winston Hope Smith Day 1,800, 00:11

Interesting idea and I will not give an opinion either way until I give it some thought

Bristel Akina
Bristel Akina Day 1,800, 01:36

I'm willing to hear out the details, but support? I don't think this is a good idea for both countries, for many reasons.

I will probably write a counter article about this soon if I've calmed my temper by then.

Sweet Drinker
Sweet Drinker Day 1,800, 01:42

leave that article to me Bristel

Liam Tatlock
Liam Tatlock Day 1,800, 03:25

An interesting proposal though I expect the same people who were against the region swap with the UK to be against this. It needs a fair bit of thought and discussion and not rely on a knee-jerk reaction.

Jacobi
Jacobi Day 1,800, 04:16

"If the benefits are truly as mutually beneficial as you say, Plato, then surely the Canadian gov't would flock to the idea of surrendering their regions under an Irish flag."

I have no problem with that.

The main issue is logistics. There are about 500 active Canadians we'd need to bring over to Ireland or 160 Irish to bring over to Canada and 120 Citizenship passes a month to make it work. There would be, of course, some people wanting to stay behind to mind the store.

Jacobi
Jacobi Day 1,800, 04:18

Assuming a wipe of the Canadian congress this month the a merger of Ireland into Canada would be complete by December 30, starting it after November 25.

A merger of Canada into Ireland would be complete probably around the end of February to get everyone into Irish CS.

So we have plenty of time to maturely discuss things and look at all the pros and cons and smooth out the wrinkles.

klop123
klop123 Day 1,800, 04:51

It all depends: you down Ireland?

Derphoof
Derphoof Day 1,800, 05:31

@Bhane: I have no problem with obtaining Irish citizenship or giving our regions to Ireland and working under an Irish flag. The point is that we would be united as a single nation, regardless of what flag is next to your name. It's more beneficial to be united than divided. It doesn't matter what silly little flag is next to your name.

The problem, as Jacobi said, is logistics. I largely agree with his analysis. There are many logistical problems with Ireland absorbing Canadian regions.

Derphoof
Derphoof Day 1,800, 05:35

With that said, if we can create a reasonable plan for Ireland to absorb Canada, I am not at all opposed to such an idea.

Stilpo
Stilpo Day 1,800, 06:25

At least you is thinking outside the box. That's more than a lot of people can say.

BUT... I don't think this would be feasible in practice. Mergers have been tried before in this game. Some of them have been successful for a while, but usually only in the case of a clear threat of PTO to a smaller country and therefore overwhelming support in the public. I don't see that support coming about just for a boost in numbers.

Keep the ideas coming.

mhilly
mhilly Day 1,800, 06:40

Depending on the circumstances, and eIreland being fine with the Canucks jumping right into politics. I'd be okay with getting Irish CS

Sleep is for the weak
Sleep is for the weak Day 1,800, 07:15

The Irish sovereignty isn't for sail...

Frank Dobbs
Frank Dobbs Day 1,800, 07:18

They are now down to Alberta and Prince Edward Island (unconnected). I'd say they need to join us lol.

Quilly21
Quilly21 Day 1,800, 07:45

What happens when Canada wants us to help them fight US ??....most or our communes are there

Derphoof
Derphoof Day 1,800, 07:50

@Frank Dobbs and Ian E Coleman: Canada will be getting all of its regions back from Poland. So that is not an issue.

@Quilly21: Canada will never fight against the US.

Big Sexy Black Man
Big Sexy Black Man Day 1,800, 08:55

Well this highlights what the ICA have been saying the all along and that's just how stupid NFM really is.

Merging with another country not only completely surrenders all administrative duties we possess over ourselves, it also makes our community totally redundant in this game as we suddenly become a minority within the only country thats more thief & spastic ridden than us.

Nataliia from Galicia
Nataliia from Galicia Day 1,800, 09:03

what's going on??????? o_O
+ 1 to Black Man

Big Sexy Black Man
Big Sexy Black Man Day 1,800, 09:04

Last time I check it's "coloured" you racist pig

Scourge Prime
Scourge Prime Day 1,800, 09:33

Voted.

MrConway
MrConway Day 1,800, 10:36

GTFO, fail.

Nataliia from Galicia
Nataliia from Galicia Day 1,800, 11:31

The comment isn't even surprising, Man

New Faustian Man Day 1,800, 11:34

Comment deleted

MrConway
MrConway Day 1,800, 11:47

NFM how have you contributed to eIreland? By offering to sell if off to eCanada?

GOOD JOB!

New Faustian Man
New Faustian Man Day 1,800, 11:57

Twatty's eRepublik birthday Feb 21, 2010, Strength 4,648.53 -- Nearly THREE YEARS and not even 5k Strength yet lol!!!!!

FFS do a paper round, earn some cash -- then buy some fuckin Gold and Train and don't be a poor useless cunt all your life. Little mouthpieces like you hiding behind the 'ica' tag are a fuckin joke. You's do fuck all but mouth off and are a waste of space on the battlefield.

I've at least 15 BHs earnt fighting for Ireland -- how many have you got?

MrConway
MrConway Day 1,800, 12:05

Oh god this is hilarious! I don't use gold to train, I went a long time not training or working but being active I happily admit that, I wasn't bothered for that. But this game is about a lot more than damage. Earn some cash oh god aren't you funny, I have earned my cash and I will continue doing this.

When we invaded Poland government did not focus on the initial assault, I however did and ended up spending my own personal money on getting a merc MU to hit for us.

MrConway
MrConway Day 1,800, 12:06

Is my damage and influence useless so?

"a waste of space on the battlefield."

This is impossible. Learn game mechanics idiot.

New Faustian Man
New Faustian Man Day 1,800, 12:13

Sorry, whaaat!? Is any of that shite meant to be convincing!? And I'm not trying to be funny. I think you've entirely missed the point of what I'm saying -- which was completely serious.

Before you start going off spinning tall tales about how you spend all your RL cash hiring mercs to fight for Ireland instead of training, perhaps you ought to try and grasp what I'm getting at.

MrConway
MrConway Day 1,800, 12:14

RL cash, never spent it on this game man.

What is your serious point? I'm useless?

New Faustian Man
New Faustian Man Day 1,800, 12:20

For someone approaching their 3rd Erep birthday, how is having less than 5k Strength anything but pisspoor??? I can show you citizens 3 months old with 1000s more Strength. Your stats are a total joke, no two ways about it.

Nataliia from Galicia
Nataliia from Galicia Day 1,800, 12:40

lol'd
so much hate
calm down

Kurgan, NFM needs your love
your freams can come true only with this guy :DDDD

MrConway
MrConway Day 1,800, 12:49

NFM do I give a shit?

I didn't play the game properly for a long time, only wrote articles, only here for the Community. Which in fact you wish to destroy.

ChewChewShoe
ChewChewShoe Day 1,800, 13:31

I am absolutely repulsed to see this, if you had the slightest clue of the recent history between Ireland and Canada you would see that Canada is amongst the most disgusting, repulsing community in the game with the incapability of even governing itself properly. (not saying the Irish government is doing a good job at that either though, don't get me wrong)
You, and your entire government, is a disgrace for Ireland, and I hope for gods sake you all leave Ireland as soon as possible.

Stilpo
Stilpo Day 1,800, 14:07

Put it back in your pants NFM. There a lot of good ways to serve your country other than fighting - many of them arguably much more important than just being another statistic on the battlefield. In fact, I would argue that strength does a lot more to boost your own personal ego than it does to actually help your country, especially compared to something like being a good ambassador or doing something to help retain new players.

 
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