Vote 4 eNL, vote 4 Nebula!
Day 2,763, 02:37
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by NoTie112
Fellow citizens!
Our Congress has recently decided to organize a referendum, as you might have noticed. The subject is our potential entry into Nebula and whether or not we should continue embarking that course. I've decided to write this article to convince you about the advantages that come with joining Nebula that will make both the alliance and our own country more powerful and more fun to be a part of and live in.
Nebula has a lot to offer to the eNetherlands. It's time for the eNetherlands to take a role in its own fate by joining an international cooperation, which has been lacking in our foreign policy for so long with disastrous results (e.g. years of occupation and the recent German attack are illustrating examples of that) and Nebula is the perfect fit for us. Let's face it: The eNetherlands in its current state is isolated and hardly relevant outside our own borders. We got to take chances where they appear and one big one chance has come ever since Nebula has shown active interest in our participation, to the point of their incredible support during our liberation of the Northern Netherlands.
Of course, any cooperation goes both ways. We have been long seeking allies to fight for with a goal and have been clinging on to loose, almost non-existing relations of pragmatic convenience which has backfired in our faces. The close-knit of small nations that Nebula provide will satisfy our needs to an international goal where we can matter and make an impact. The nations in Nebula are on the same level as us and are mainly concerned with the defense of the Nebula nations, which is an intention fitting and useful for us considering our long and sad history of occupations. Importantly, being part of Nebula makes us being part of the larger international community, netting us all kinds of benefits in comparison to our current irrelevancy as lone nation. It might be our only chance in a long, long while and we need to take it.
For further insight in why we should join Nebula I refer to our national forums (enetherlands.nl)
Kind regards and don't forget to vote in the referendum!
NoTie
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Voted \o/
Norway, Chile, Australia are contries we've supported in the recent past. I'm glad we try to join this Alliance. I think we should use our geological position as a strength. It allows Allies to enter Europe and start a campaign without having to launch a heavily defended AS.
o7 , Nebula's got my support
Chile isn't a member, nor a ally of Nebula, but you're right for the rest!
>Norway, Chile, Australia are contries we've supported in the recent past.
great to mpp argentina then..
Do we have other possibilties of cooperation?
If not then this is the only choice.
Noop, we're the only alliance interested in eNL.
We hope to welcome you soon eNL!
i just agree because you are the best citizen of this country, and you love maybe a little my articles Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
He's a Norwegian citizen for over a year I estimate 😉
yeah i know him of course 🙂 a wise person
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o7
This: "The close-knit of small nations that Nebula provide will satisfy our needs to an international goal where we can matter and make an impact."
By joining Nebula we will have a future again!
A pointless and useless alliance not worth our time.
Good to hear arguments against. But: what alternatives are there?
Basically at this point we have 2 choices:
- no alliance
- Nebula
If you can connect us to an alliance that is worth our time (in your opinion), please do so.
My position is to just have MPP's and to have the status quo. I am not in favor of jumping into random alliance for the sake of joining them. Nebula for the most part has weak and insignificant countries. Most of the members of Nebula also are not on the best of terms with our existing allies and friends. One of the Nebula members are invading our traditional friend and ally. We complained about the German treason and betrayal against NSPP etc. In my perspective, joining Nebula is not much different. If it was to join some huge big powerful alliance etc, I will consider it. Nebula is just too pathetic but it will cost us a lot in regards to both honor and the friends we already have. I rather us not to join any alliance and rely on our MPP's. In the end, even in an alliance, no one will really commit huge resources to small and weak countries like eNL anyways. It is a pointless but costly move if we do join it...
Nebula is a follow up on Asgard, an alliance we've wanted to join in the past... And yes, they were also "weak and insignificant countries". But honestly, the same applies to us...
If we were to join an alliance with big and powerful countries, what do you think would happen? In the past, we've been in such an alliance, and the main issue was that the biggest countries were totally in charge. And we were simply ignored as we were "weak and insignificant" (again quoting your words).
If we are "weak and insignificant", why not join a group of brothers in arms, who know what it is to be "weak and insignificant"? And prove that there is strength in numbers...
Weak + weak + weak ≠ strong. There is no real strength with these numbers. Well there is strength to deal with another 3rd world country if need be, but that's it.
Thinking of the interest of E-Netherlands? I think not.
Think that even many small countries still make a small army so we speak about benefits but tell me what are the benefits?
When we stand together we can fight off a stronger nation. When we are in real trouble we can seek aid from "Friends" or enemies of our enemies. It's never a bad thing when you know other people will defend you in times of trouble.
Draw me a sheep
Alliances of small counties in the past always have and in future will always fail quite hard generally speaking. There is a long long list of alliances of small(er) countries that failed.
Yep, funny enough the majority of these members have been in those failed alliances.
Well most alliances fail eventually big or small no difference.
That is true, but those small alliances fail at a much quicker rate than big alliances.
Yeah, but these small defensive alliances don't even make a year.
Join nebula o7
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Voted!
I expect a lot more fun and activity for E-NL if this actually happens.
Time to fix almost two years of broken alliance promises.
Fun and activity okay but not so much benefits
if Nebula ask you to don't fight for ebelgium or eUk do you accept the deal?
Fun and activity and player retention is the most important benefit.
Agree that are big benefits but speak it out loud and don't let it look of there is a bigger benefit.
And yes if they ask we should do that is why you go in an Alliance. But sometimes you can give good reason and you still can fight for others.
anyway i forgot the principal sentence. Good luck in your futur eNL and in your choice : )
@Kristina: Part of the discussions we had with them was that we would keep our good relations with you.
I believe a NAP continuation of the NSPP is already being discussed...
But of course in an alliance, we will have to fight in the alliance's interests. That might mean we're not available to fight for eBe or the eUK.
Strange i said the same when I was in eBe so why wouldn't I say it here.
Don't say I will fight but say when you have an Alliance you have to go for it.
That is because there are some people who are pushing for it really does not have any real serious experience with international relations. Especially those who keeps pushing us to silly wars with no goals and plans. Arm chair generals makes not good leaders dealing with global affairs. Sadly these people are just loud people shouting and droning down rational debate and discussions.
''We are experienced hurdur and they are not'' Come on now, that's a cheap argument. Hardly anyone in the eNetherlands has relevant FA knowledge, even after years of playing this game. If you can claim that I have not any serious experience in that matter, you are really putting us up to a high standard which no one can achieve in our country.
People shouting and droning down rational debate? Seriously? Aren't some of the opponents the ones who just bluntly reply with ''no, hell no'', silly gifs and pointing fingers towards individuals out of their past? I expected more of you.
Maybe that is fair. I do not believe man people in this country have the means to achieve my standards. Then again, most people do not have the experience that I have in the past. I do not think having high standards is a bad thing. I do not want to sound egoistical but what I said is indeed true.
As to the debate, there is no real debate. There is no good reasons to join it other than that there is a prospect of an alliance that wants us in. Is eNL under huge threat right now? What is the need for such alliance? What is wrong with just having MPP's? Why join a weak alliance that when they all combined still cannot defeat the likes of Poland, Serbia, etc. Why are we betraying our existing friends to join a weak and rather pathetic alliance? Where is the information and public discussion on this issue addressing the pro and con's? In the end, we only here rhetoric of strength but in reality, it is not there. I do not see any real debate on joining this alliance other than for the sake of being in the first alliance that is open to us. That for me is not a good reason. It needs so much more.
I will vote against joining them 😀
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I would like to see eBE join Nebula with us, that is of course "if" we join Nebula.
I would say that I am happy to have you in Nebula, but I don't want to interfere in MdR's job as MoFA of Nebula.