Urgent Notice To All South Africans !
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by Black8Shadow
Erdwurn has requested that I assist him in the publishing of his response to the letter sent out by Brendan E Austerion. I believe that spamming everybody’s mail with lies and a total distortion of the truth is not the way to do it and defiantly not gentlemen like which is exactly why I would not vote for the recent BLF leaders Dues Ex was someone you could lookup too but what happen since then?
Here is the letter from Austerion and Erdwurm’s response:
BEA:
Hey! By now you will know that I'm Brendan E Austerion and I'm running for the Presidency. In less than twelve hours, it will be election day. I have stated my platform and my stands in various articles and comments: all may view. I will be open, pursue betterment of the nation AND freedom: I will make this place- economy, miliary, wellness and all, mighty again.
I have been smeared, accused of incompetence and frivolousness, and my opponent ERDWURM and his party backs an economic plan which will bring us ruin (he and his friends defend it as a risk worth trying: But I say that we should be cautious with our future and not throw it to the lottery.
Remember- cast your vote wisely. Vote for the candidate of action, leadership, openness, progress- vote Austerion, and vote eSouth Africa. But no progress can be accomplished without winning the elections- so I ask for your help.
Cheers.
Erd response:
It has come under my attention that my opposition candidate has sent out a letter to all, To inform them of how bad our policy will be for the country and how we have slandered his name in public.
I just wish to state that any of these accusations are false and that any man that knows me can vouch after the fact that I confront any man whosoever stoops down to the level of slandering the opposition.
I have also stated that our economic policy will work in the long run. The opposition are scared and want to go the conservative way, never risking anything. We are not evil Capitalists, looking out for ourselves as they would like to make out, we have every citizen in mind and are working towards a non artificial stable economy.
We as a party will and always stand for the freedom of our lands from occupation, it will come we work at it, but Rome was not built in a day.
I say High risk high reward, Vote Free Africa, Vote for our future.
Regards
ERDWURM
So for sensible leadership and a mature President VOTE ERDWURM!!!!!! DON’T ROLL LIKE THE Austerion’s of the world resorting to lies and BS it will come bite you later in your Assterion section!
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These blf guys are unbelievable! They come around with all these accusations but offer no supposed evidence to back this up! Well, the fact is that they cant provide evidence-simply for the reason that no evidence exists because its all lies.
The question is, do you want a President whom will play dirty and lie to the public, then vote for assterion-otherwise, go with the mature and honourary ERDWURM. Vote ERDWURM!
We should not be surprised by this - it's happened in the past two elections when a oposing candidate feels he cant win he will try this sort of thing - I feel confident that South Africans will see through the nonsence and vote for a stable and secure future. Please South Africans dont let me down - vote Erdwurm.
Doesn't seem to false. You guys, or more specifically, erdwurm, proposed a horrid economic plan that scared the bajeebus out of me.
If you think that preforming a little "campaign" advertisement is a bad thing, politics isn't for you.
And no, your economic policy will fail. I don't like the idea of trying things that are just going to screw up the next administration.
It's called CAMPAIGNING.
Also, we would have kept it all high and dry and civilized, but ya'll had to go and side with the high-profit foreign megacorporations in the name of neoliberal capitalism.
First off,the message is not full of lies,it's the man's opinion,coincidentally it's more than one man's opinion,there happen to be quite a few of us who don't think lowering diamond taxes will save our economy.Some of which seem to know a thing or two about economy.
Secondly,I think your average Joe(as it seems this expression is gaining popularity both in the RL and eRep) has enough gray matter under his thick skull to make a decision for himself without the media responding to every message sent by a presidential candidate.
Thirdly,didn't Rhood do the same thing when he found out his counter-candidate sent letters to everyone?Didn't seem to work too good for him though.
And last but not least,lighten up on the "these BLF guys are incredible" comments.Truth be told,your proposed cabinet would be quite weak without the BLF guys.
This comment is not intended to offend anyone,and if it did,feel free to report me I won't apologize.This is just my opinion of this Pre-Election Stress some people seem to have so much trouble dealing with.
Go Brendan!
I thank you all for responding for me: no response of my own is required except to say "What they said."
@Hireshmont: high-profit foreign megacorporations mmm... in SA? well then:
Minimum Wage
Proposed by Brendan E Austerion, 3 days ago
Minimum wage change from 2 ZAR to 1 ZAR
http://www.erepublik.com/en/South-Africa/law/2700
Very glad it was rejected we should help the little man that is just starting out and raise the min wage not help the "megacorporations" by lowering it....???? AND ALSO I SEE IS A TAX DODGING PLAY YOURSELVES LESS TO AVOID TAXES
@Shadow:You can't be serious about bringing that bill up.The change was not meant to hurt the little man,it was aimed at those who had the means to support themselves and didn't want to take the money of the company they were working for.
The little man,needs only to go to human resources and pick the best job offer he can find.
So stop talking about slander and twisting the meaning of things if you plan to do the same thing yourself😉)
Hello, if you didn't want to spin stuff, you'd give a link to my rationale:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/eSouthAfrica/index.php?showtopic=237&st=15last
It failed in the end and I conceded that public opinion was against. As for tax dodging, what the heck are you talking about???
Another thing shadow,the only companies that actually offer the minimum wage for skill 0 are yours and a diamond company.So honestly stop bull&😁#ing about the little man and how much you care for him.
Er, link is on second page- go to the first for rationale. XD
Shame. We actually have 2 honourable candidates regardless what their ideas are. The mud slinger's and slanderers seem to be the supporters.Also, regardless who wins its up to the senate to VOTE ON THE PROPOSALS. If Erdwurm proposes his tax change law and the senate votes against it(a negative BLF vote is not enough to shoot it down)then the senators decided.
@Siroe ask your firend Voma who works for me how much I care ask him why his wellness is up ask him who buys him food ask him who gives him gifts? Ask any of my employees ( Voma 2nd on list for next house ) what they got for working for me a Q2 house will be their answer I think thats helping the little guy quite abit!
So,if you're so good to my friend,and I won't deny you that.Why would he need a wage anyway?I mean...you feed him,you offer him a house,you keep his wellness high(btw,don't think I don't keep an eye on him😛),and all he has to do is work for you.He doesn't have to buy anything.Just don't go around telling me that this is only in his best interest,that you won't profit from this in time,as his skill(and productivity) raises.
So it's not so selfless after all,is it?
On a side note,if he wasn't working for you,would you have taken the time to find out what he needs?I think not.So it's safe to say that you care for the little man,as long as the little man works for you.Which is great,don't get me wrong,but if other employers helped their young employees like that(and I am sure that others do too,without making a fuss of it) you could lower the minimum wage to -6ZAR and no one would notice.
I'm just saying,the bill lowering the minimum wage would not have affected the younger players as they had access to the human resources section😉
Hi everybody just to say I work for shadow and have been given a house Q2 and food and gifts and I get the love and support a girl needs so he has been wonderful! Siroe guy you should focus on the candidates not shadow. Anyway in my view this just goes to show how BLF tries to turn everything people say.
I know I'm biased being a Black Lion but why did the Free Africans respond with such aggression?
Brendan is campaigning and he is targeting the factual political ideas of his opponent. This can not be a cause for indignation.
Keep it clean people!
@Siroe voma need a wage for the same reasons you do and I am not making a fuss of it you started it voma happened to join the company when the min wages set too allow friends to join more are still expected so I am not removing it however since voma join I have decided to implement a new plan and I am seeking new employees at ZERO skill to help and get them going I hope that they will stay with me forever or that we open new companies together or fight together and built our skill. I can only help people that help themslves and that are going to be around for a long time otherwise its a wasted investment.
Look,my point wasn't even about how much you pay your employees and what you do for them.Truth be told I don't care that much.
I just stated what I saw in human resources.
My point about lowering the minimum wage still stands as far as I can see,no one posts job offers for 2ZAR,and no one will post job offers for 1ZAR either,unless they have a reason.
The fact that this discussion digressed from the candidates to employee treatment is partly my fault so I apologize for that.
Hope you realize eventually that posts like:
@Hireshmont: high-profit foreign megacorporations mmm... in SA? well then:
Minimum Wage
Proposed by Brendan E Austerion, 3 days ago
Minimum wage change from 2 ZAR to 1 ZAR
http://www.erepublik.com/en/S[..]/2700
Very glad it was rejected we should help the little man that is just starting out and raise the min wage not help the "megacorporations" by lowering it....???? AND ALSO I SEE IS A TAX DODGING PLAY YOURSELVES LESS TO AVOID TAXES
won't help much in terms of propaganda as long as I still have the right to say something about them.
Well Siroe I have the same right to to talk and so does everybody however my point is dont tell lies and slate your opponent like what was started by the BLF because someone else might know things too and standup for other people Erdwurn has not slated BAE however BAE claims this - this is a lie.
@ Rico that means that we can target BLF back I dont know what all the fuss is about then or is BLF only allowed to do the targeting? Mate I dont want to fight with you we've had different views before and I hope we are able to share our views in the future again but for now I believe we are firends so dont take my comment out of context!
What Brendan said was that your plan was destined for ruin,again he is not alone in this assesment of the plan.The the said project is likely to fail is something even you might end up agreeing with.
Whereas you took a fact of little relevance(the proposition for lowering the minimum wage) and turned the fact that it didn't pass into some great victory for the little man,when this fact doesn't affect him at all.
So who is slating who?
Anyway,I will not continue this discussion as there is little point to it...
Best of luck to both candidates,and thank God it's almost over.
I never said that ERDWURM was the one. I only mentioned him with regards to the lousy economic plan. In any case, this mudslinging stops NOW.
I'm sick of this mudslinging, and will not refute that last bit (even if I know my rebuttal for it).
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Who's BAE?
I just read through all the comments. I see that FA seems to have... misunderstood... the comments made and pissed everyone off.
Like I said, if you guys can't stand political debate, politics isn't for you.
Dagari, if ERDWURM's economic plan scares you, perhaps YOUR economic plan would scare every South African voter.I've heard i, and can honestly say it was one of the reasons I jumped ship on you.
Greetings Rico
The reason we are being 'aggressive' is because in recent hours, the blf guys have started accusing FA of terrible crimes-all of which are untrue (and evident by the lack of evidence from the blf to support their outright lies). It is this resort on behalf of the blf, that fa will not allow such crude accusations to remain unchallenged. Is it not a right and quality of the system for the accused to say his mind and clear his name?
As for 'aggressive' we are definitely NOT aggressive. Agressive = blf persons accusing candidates of crimes right on election times. Now that my friend, that is aggressive. We are on the defence, and not the aggressors.
I got a good idea, before I get nasty and piss someone off by saying something that might hurt someones tender feelings. Grow up!!! We work well togeather when someone is in power, and we have a diffrent of opinions. Fact of life.
@ Boere Generaal
Your one to talk mate. When have you done squat to help this country out but slag people off on the forum. I have commented a couple of times on your smart a$@ comments on the forum. You wanna slag someone off? Slag me off. I wont take your crap, I'll bite back.
Wages are unecessary for a dedicated worker.
I work for minimum wage: end of story. Why? Because I am dedicated to eSA. Achievement gold fulfills all my needs and more.
Everyone has their right to say their opinion to whoever they want. It is the listeners choice whether or not to continue to hear that opinion, and if you don't agree with that Black8Shadow, then you don't believe in human rights.
What you said, everyone has a right to talk, is contradictory to slating your opponent. Rather, it depends on what you meen by slating.
Saying your opponent stinks and saying his ideals are horrible... is exactly what this silly thing called party politics is. It is the basis of representative democracy, without being able to compete with one another how do you make sure Your party gets into office? With members? How do you get members if you don't prove the opponent is wrong or a bad choice?
You seem to be clouding your idea of what is a lie and what is an opinion. Most of this seems to be turning from theory to fact, since so many damn people think certain things with certain people are bad ideas.
@Taylor
Stop embarrassing yourself. You agreed with me 100% and wanted to implement the ideas of the DAS party, then you ran off to FA because of some life revelation. Don't shoot down my minor parties beliefs, since we CANT EVEN RUN, just because I KNOW that setting things in the economy certain ways will screw it up for many, many months for the future.
"Rome wasn't built in a day"?
Is he implying that one of the greatest empires of all time was made during the night? O_o
What Brendan did is a perfectly normal part of any election campaign and ERDWURM had just as much of a right to respond to it, regardless of what was said. The outrage and accusations screamed out by supporters is not much different from the media noise that surrounds any RL election.
Now that the election is over, everyone should just shut the f*#k up and get back to work making eSA strong. We have a lot to do and we're only helping out our enemies and making ourselves open to takeover when we bicker and fight over petty insults and perceived slights.
If you were god Jizzer, I can kinda see the resemblance there, i would say Amen to that.
Feel free to say amen, my child, for I speak the truth. I am not god, but I may well be the next(and greatest) president of eSouth Africa.
your a smart man jizzie 😃
the elections over, no point in holding grudges against each other now... look where it took eRussia, as a perfect example 😛
Amen Mr Vice President. And may Jizzer bless you all.
While I have been offered the job, I have not accepted the Vice Presidency just yet. In the past, BLF members have been given the post only to be ignored or have their ideas stolen from them and claimed by someone else. I don't believe that ERDWURM would act in that way, but it does give me something to think about.
Amen
Strength in unity and the liberation of SA comes first.
"Very glad it was rejected we should help the little man that is just starting out and raise the min wage not help the "megacorporations" by lowering it....???? AND ALSO I SEE IS A TAX DODGING PLAY YOURSELVES LESS TO AVOID TAXES"
Do you know why he did that? because it's the lowest amount the game will allow. You see, some of us actually believe in WORKING FOR FREE, voluntarily donating our labour for the good of the e-nation, instead of lining our pockets. I don't need money; I get 600+ ZAR a month free, courtesy of the Admins.
You seem to be forgetting that it's BRENDAN'S wage policies that provide you with 1.5 ZAR grain, as opposed to erdwurm's policies, which would only line the pockets of already insanely rich diamond companies and workers.
Brendan never lied...even if he had, you and your ilk have only proven true his words about being slandered; Hireshmont, OUR RESIDENT ECONOMIC EXPERT (an indesputable fact, and a title no one else within this region can come close to claiming) and the Independence Media has already thoroughly trounced Erdwurm's economic proposal, citing multiple reasons, using sound logic and economics.
"High risk, high reward," you say, ignorant of what, exactly, the "risk" part entails...obviously, you don't follow RL economics or notice the current volatility of the RL stock markets.
I can provide some nice little counter quotes... "slow and steady wins the race", or "better safe than sorry"...
Anywho, We all know Jizzie is a God. You're going to run for president next mandate, I hope? 😃