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UK; the experiment failed.
Use your time and memorize the lullaby of the day
Process the data and throw it away
And each little question doesn't get me thinking
And the lies of my life still buzz around my brain...
Sad State of Affairs – Descendants
I’m going to start this article off with a table, based on the damage stats of the battle for Nordjylland. For whatever reason, eRepublik decided to reset the damage stats for the war, allowing for a reasonable look at the damage that each side could pump out. It pretty much confirmed what everyone already knew. The UK’s damage dealing capabilities are laughable at best.
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First of all, what other factors could have influenced this battle? Sweden was involved in the Philippines – Malaysia training war, which overlapped the attack by around three hours. Despite Swedish official orders being to hold fire, and then edited to the version you see above, it is a good bet that some damage was lost there, both during the Nordjylland battle, and before. Indonesia also Malaysiap again, a war in which Sweden was involved via an MPP. There was about 9 hours of this battle while the Nordjylland battle went on, and it is a safe bet that some damage was lost there also. The UK had no such distractions, and thus we can assume that there was very little to no wasted damage on that side. If it were not for the goings on in South East Asia, one would be wise to assume the deficit would be larger.
EDIT: The UK was involved in North Korean wars via a Russian MPP, my mistake.
So, with this in mind, what do the numbers in the table actually mean? The UK had over 2,000 more fights done overall than Sweden; while bigger here is better, its still not every good. If we look at the fights/pop column, we see that Sweden had nearly double the fights per citizen. Thats fine, because the UK has more than double the population, so therefore its all good, right?
No. The damage column shows quite clearly why this is; and as a result all other measures of damage are well in favour of Sweden. The UK’s damage per person, per voter, and per fight is very much sub par; the vast majority of other nations can easily match these numbers, while still spending as little as the UK did.
But why is this?
Several months ago, when the UK joined PEACE, one of the main reasons cited was to increase the fun factor for the people at home. People who had been having a few training wars here and there, and not much else since a failed attack on France over 6 months previously. At the time, it seemed like a good option; I myself was a very strong proponent of the switch, I believed that there would be more fun for the UK; and thus a better game for everyone. Boy was I wrong. Several more months down the line, all that has happened is an ill fated attack on Norway, which resulted in a damage deficit of over 1million in favour of the Norwegians.
PEACE did not bring the level of fun that I expected, and others did too. There were a few Canadian RWs, which might’ve brought a small amount of fun for a few weeks, sporadically. Ultimately, and unsurprisingly, the UK was soundly beaten without much effort from the forces arrayed against them.
The PEACE experiment failed. It was supposed to bring life to an otherwise lifeless country. To galvanise the population into doing something.
It is quite obvious to anyone looking at the above statistics that this is definitely not the case. Do something to get people involved, get them off the sidelines and into the game Do something, anything. Who knows, if you actually do something, you might have fun.
Necrosis
Process the data and throw it away
And each little question doesn't get me thinking
And the lies of my life still buzz around my brain...
Sad State of Affairs – Descendants
I’m going to start this article off with a table, based on the damage stats of the battle for Nordjylland. For whatever reason, eRepublik decided to reset the damage stats for the war, allowing for a reasonable look at the damage that each side could pump out. It pretty much confirmed what everyone already knew. The UK’s damage dealing capabilities are laughable at best.
Click for a larger version.
First of all, what other factors could have influenced this battle? Sweden was involved in the Philippines – Malaysia training war, which overlapped the attack by around three hours. Despite Swedish official orders being to hold fire, and then edited to the version you see above, it is a good bet that some damage was lost there, both during the Nordjylland battle, and before. Indonesia also Malaysiap again, a war in which Sweden was involved via an MPP. There was about 9 hours of this battle while the Nordjylland battle went on, and it is a safe bet that some damage was lost there also. The UK had no such distractions, and thus we can assume that there was very little to no wasted damage on that side. If it were not for the goings on in South East Asia, one would be wise to assume the deficit would be larger.
EDIT: The UK was involved in North Korean wars via a Russian MPP, my mistake.
So, with this in mind, what do the numbers in the table actually mean? The UK had over 2,000 more fights done overall than Sweden; while bigger here is better, its still not every good. If we look at the fights/pop column, we see that Sweden had nearly double the fights per citizen. Thats fine, because the UK has more than double the population, so therefore its all good, right?
No. The damage column shows quite clearly why this is; and as a result all other measures of damage are well in favour of Sweden. The UK’s damage per person, per voter, and per fight is very much sub par; the vast majority of other nations can easily match these numbers, while still spending as little as the UK did.
But why is this?
Several months ago, when the UK joined PEACE, one of the main reasons cited was to increase the fun factor for the people at home. People who had been having a few training wars here and there, and not much else since a failed attack on France over 6 months previously. At the time, it seemed like a good option; I myself was a very strong proponent of the switch, I believed that there would be more fun for the UK; and thus a better game for everyone. Boy was I wrong. Several more months down the line, all that has happened is an ill fated attack on Norway, which resulted in a damage deficit of over 1million in favour of the Norwegians.
PEACE did not bring the level of fun that I expected, and others did too. There were a few Canadian RWs, which might’ve brought a small amount of fun for a few weeks, sporadically. Ultimately, and unsurprisingly, the UK was soundly beaten without much effort from the forces arrayed against them.
The PEACE experiment failed. It was supposed to bring life to an otherwise lifeless country. To galvanise the population into doing something.
It is quite obvious to anyone looking at the above statistics that this is definitely not the case. Do something to get people involved, get them off the sidelines and into the game Do something, anything. Who knows, if you actually do something, you might have fun.
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boring repeat of existing article
We lost by 2.2 million in Norway, not 1 million
Tbh even if you guys had have the few companies I stole you would have still got trounced there. That is shockingly embarassing.
GF, there was the Russia - Korea war going on for the UK actually.
> The UK had no such distractions
> russia - korea
You said it all...
I edited in the RU-NK war, my mistake.
Necrosis is right.
And it turns full circle as Necrosis gets voted up by US and EDEN people (and the odd traitor ) haha
Voted, we will see if we are to attack when we are prepared
I expected a troll article and instead found information.
Son..
I'm disappoint.
Votadus maximus! Seriously, GF highlights here the major issue facing the next UK Govt. - our comparatively laughable military strength. Whilst some people may be content to play this game in order to pump out lengthy forum-based "legislation", I suspect the majority of citizens care about our in-game performance which is poor and the TUP has done little to improve over the tenure of it's political dominance.
Great article.
"I suspect the majority of citizens care about our in-game performance which is poor and the TUP has done little to improve over the tenure of it's political dominance."
Since TUP came to 'dominance' we've almost completely abolished forum legislation, improved our army organisation no end and now we're having lots of military fun. So stop sniping at us.
>I expected a troll article and instead found information.
Son..
I'm disappoint.
I love graphs and info like that, voted
In the light of this article I can only say: ... Hey eUK!... Told ya PEACE was a mistake.
The UK is too boring for me...
I voted this, Dare call me a traitor?
This is exactly whats happening with the UK. its just a big dump for political rambling.
You have a high population
You have a good economy
but you guys are 10000% boring
also you have indiekid
to romansolider:
why uk is boring?
PEACE is going to desapear this alliance has no way to survive no more
no one in charge wants a war. they just want to play Politics.
That's all the uk EVER wants to do...
I started this game over a year ago and the UK has attacked 2 countries head on. Not 1v1 either.
All the congress wants to do is play around with taxes and say "Hey look we beat you guys this month, Ha Ha"
That's why it's boring, All my Friends in the UK have left to other small countries such as japan/South Africa/Korea/Philippines
Because there we can have fun.
"Boy was I wrong"
Smart men admit their mistakes.
to romansoldier:
thanks for the information
no problem =-p
also yea another great article by Gf again=p
Odd how all the praise comes from turncoats, traitors and expats - oh and covert fellow travellers.
notice the praise also comes from enemies who have happily proclaimed UKfail etc
Look at the bright side: at least you're not Australia.
"That's why it's boring, All my Friends in the UK have left to other small countries such as japan/South Africa/Korea/Philippines
Because there we can have fun."
You mean the Japan/Philippines where you have fun talking politics without war?
Voted.
But this happen in a lot of eCountries in the eWorld.
'Since TUP came to 'dominance' we've almost completely abolished forum legislation, improved our army organisation no end and now we're having lots of military fun. So stop sniping at us.'
Hmm, iirc TUP has had pretty much nothing to do with that, that's the military folk, stop trying to claim glory for what TUP haven't done.
If we get some war, maybe they will return huh?
But yeah, our population is around the same as Sweden's, and they were a beta giant of a country.
No contest.
GF fails gb2 Amerikka
>And it turns full circle as Necrosis gets voted up by US and EDEN people (and the odd traitor ) haha
>an Englishman
>calling some one else a traitor
Ripping good laugh, sport.
>>>notice the praise also comes from enemies who have happily proclaimed UKfail etc
This coming from one of the geniuses who screwed everything up.
We're rooting for you to have a stellar political career in Russia, glados. The second act can only be an improvement on the first, right?
And another article from the aclaimed hero turned villian...
a repeat of the forum post which i have already expressed my opinion on.
Also a article missing the actual facts which included the use of q1 weapons for special forces... The reason being because we didn't actually fight for it...
@ romansolider
Enter Mahmoud
THAT, was the sound of my jaw dropping!!
Could it be that one of those who so vehemently argued, fought and politicked for PEACE membership has actually changed his mind? I have to give it to you GF, it does take balls to admit when one was wrong. But how humorous it is to me to see one who criticised the anti-PEACE standpoint now agreeing with that very same standpoint!
Nice graph too!
And yes, I agree that the eUK is falling into stagnation, but like I said elsewhere, it has happened before and will happen again. I sense only a major war on eBritish soil will galvanise the people to the extent that this country needs (prime examples being Hungary and USA). I believe eUK is a sleeping giant and needs to wake up to discover it's potential.
damn....you guys really get into this
> I sense only a major war on eBritish soil will galvanise the people to the extent that this country needs
Too bad the UK never had an opportunity to defend their homeland in the past oh wait
The eUK is what eUK is - a country full of nonsensical little 4chan kids and pedantic people that love the political ***gravy. Perhaps it is time to show the door to both of those groups?
"All the congress wants to do is play around with taxes and say "Hey look we beat you guys this month, Ha Ha"
^ this +1
please vote this article up :
<a href="http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fight-red-in-nordjylland--1051465/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/figh[..]1/20</a>
i'm trying to confuse sweden citizens .
Viva UK Viva Alliance
interesting numbers
Maybe a great bulk of people in the eUK aren't in it for the fighting and the politics is 100% of the game for them.
Understandable- there is more of a game in the politics than in the fighting after all.
I read with interest the comment of Erwin Schauman "The eUK is what eUK is - a country full of nonsensical little 4chan kids and pedantic people that love the political ***gravy. Perhaps it is time to show the door to both of those groups?"
Stupid really - In this game the political side is far richer with far more options than 5 click fighting and nationalistic p*****g contests so I know which group I'd call 'kids'.
when i joined the navy, i was told if i was active, i would get promoted.
After many months of being the only creator of activity in my ships forum, and following orders every time, there was no propotion. Can somebody explain how anybody can find it fun watching n00bs get propoted for no reason, while people who deserve it stay at the same level. Hypocrisy that is show at every level of the game.
We need a big change, and a vote for LG is the first step in the right direction! For eUK. For YOU.
Borunel Von Lotko wrote
"Maybe a great bulk of people in the eUK aren't in it for the fighting and the politics is 100% of the game for them.
Understandable- there is more of a game in the politics than in the fighting after all.
I read with interest the comment of Erwin Schauman "The eUK is what eUK is - a country full of nonsensical little 4chan kids and pedantic people that love the political ***gravy. Perhaps it is time to show the door to both of those groups?"
Stupid really - In this game the political side is far richer with far more options than 5 click fighting and nationalistic p*****g contests so I know which group I'd call 'kids'."
I say
"Is it that difficult to do both?"
was this a suprise to anybody did anybody suspect we could go one on one with sweden and win honestly.We are weak the euk know this but at least we dont jump ship and start glory hunting.
@sprucemagoo1
No, its not difficult to do both - I doubt there is anyone who doesn't probably because there is so little to the fighting - but I commented to counter the fallacious tendered notion that people will come here and stay here simply because there is a lot of fighting going on.
They just won't because the war side of things is dull, uninspiring and ultimately meaningless.
To many (i.e. the political types) the wars as such are largely pointless and at best just another political morsel.
The main import I think is that eRepublik sells itself to newcomers as a realworld simulator and a lot of new recruits will be interested in that sort of depth (political/economic and war) - In the end it doesn't deliver that though with a lack of mechanical depth in the game. What is compelling though is what the community creates itself and in the case of eUK and others that has been the political systems. The people who are disappointed by the shallow nature of the game -may- be retained if you can get them into the politics but doubtless not by the spreadsheet battles.
I agree completely with you Borunel. War can be fun, it creates activity, but as a long term thing, ultimately has no real depth to it; click here, fight there, on and on. The real appeal of this game is whole gamut of opportunity; war, newspapers, orgs, business, politics! You can't just pick one and say to hell with the rest and expect things to be fun as you focus on just one aspect of this game.
I have said in the past, and will continue to say, this game is as appealing and immersive as you want it to be! Some people only want to come on, click a few buttons and then sign off for the day. They are the ones who don't come to forum, barely read papers, and even rarely comment. It is not them who complain at all! For those of us who want more out of the game, and who spend considerable time here and on the forums, then it is up to us to get involved in the wide range of things on offer (including war AND politics).
Fair doooos! =]
Well, war is hardly pointless, it's an great source for wellness and thereby better production values from you citizens. And you could also take over High regions and profit from that.
There's time and place for everything. You can't have infinite war, of course, since people get bored of that too eventually. Especially if you keep on losing like the eUK does. On the other hand, you can't have infinite state of peace and silly little political games that accommodate a fraction of the population, and are often not based on game mechanics.
You can try whatever trick you want with the rest of the modules, but only war increases activity and may result in a baby boom. The political nonsense of 2-3 parties trying to get power to do nothing differently than the previous Government is infinitely boring for most users. I'd advise you to shake the foundations. Even bad decisions lead to increased activity, and that's what every government in every country should seek.
But hey, if that's the kind of existence you prefer, then fine. The eUK will never grow and will never prosper as long as you keep on hanging on conservative ideas how the game should be played. That's what the PEACE junta tried to change when they got power in the eUK. They failed because they couldn't keep the ball rolling, which lead to the eUK returning to its isolationist policies. Someone should start rolling the ball again to some other direction. Motion, of necessity, involves a change in perspective.
@Erwin
Well I disagree but without rewriting what I have already written I can't say much more.
I don't believe that the 'politics' of the game is a conservative idea about how the game should be played - I personally think the established norm of the game is for people to expect war, that's certainly what is pushed our direction with great regularity.
Again I don't think that as many people with an ounce of sense are likely to stay or can be possibly be that enthused by clicking a 'fight' button five times a day. Baby booms? What's the point if they don't last? A brief spell of glory then back to an anonymity filled with people advocating we do something rash to get some new blood in? In the meantime we have torn down everything that was unique and that had been worked for just to give a minority of fighters some giggles for a few days. I'd rather see 100 new good sensible players come who might stay in one form or another for a year than 1000 new players that join to attack the eUSA (for instance) do about 200 points of damage then leave because we lost
As for silly little political games - Well, if people enjoy them then who can say that they are wrong? It seems silly to tell people that they have to play differently just because you want to 'hang on conservative ideas how the game should be played.'
Finally, as to whether the politics are based on game mechanics - lets hope not as the game mechanics are dire and need circumventing wherever possible.
Thats what happens when somebody comes up with an idea for a game, and then lets the players decide how to run it and how to build it!
Lol, the UK deals less damage than a Romanian Army unit.
Once again, PEACE fail.