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No, I couldn't give a damn to be honest!

Less chattin' Patton.

Come on so

Uk can into Ireland ? Like the Grammar there !

Admins can give the UK into Ireland when the map was drawn.

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Hmm, isn't Scotland having a vote on independence this year? So if that passes, Wales and NI will follow suit, then admins will have to fix this. We can be buddies with Scotland and Wales and take over England and split the territories between us. You've got about two more years where you can boast about NI. Remember this

I was pulling your leg dh219...

I LOL'D

"Hmm, isn't Scotland having a vote on independence this year? So if that passes, Wales and NI will follow suit, then admins will have to fix this. We can be buddies with Scotland and Wales and take over England and split the territories between us."

I see your grasp of RL UK politics is shambolic, but then mine of Irish politics is equally non-existence. If you wish to be buddies with your Celtic neighbours don't let us evil English get in your way. Though my crystal ball, says we will all end up in a single EU country way before Scotland dissolves the United Kingdom, hence Ireland will once more be under the yoke of English rule (shared with the Germans and French). Don't have nightmares.

/real life view/
Yep it makes me mad irl that 6 counties were to be seperated from the rest of Ireland and from the rest of their province,in what was to be Home Rule, in an effort to have a built in protestant majority. That was disgraceful, undemocratic gerrymandering the legacy of which still remains today in the principle of consent when all parties irl NI accept bacause there is no other peaceful means of settling the dispute.

See part of the reason NI shouldn't want to be in the UK is that you've got eejits like Joniff that are so removed from their culture, daily life and politics, running their lives. They should join with us in the 26 counties and have a much greater say in how they run their lives and a much bigger impact on European policy as apart of Ireland than as an ignored and unimportant minority in the UK.

So ya I'm mad that I have to accept the view of a majority within an arbitary border created for the sole purpose of maintaining the divisions cause by that border but I happily do so in the knowledge that if :
1. the demographic trends in NI continue and the Good Friday
(catholic birthrate above the protestant birthrate, and upper class protestant brain drain to work/study in other parts of UK)
AND
2. The Good Friday Agreement which includes a provision which requires a referendum on joining the 26 counties should there be a strong likelihood for sucess of such a referendum.

Then we'll be reunited once more🙂

/erepublik view/
Meh @ ur article... eNI doesn't have the same history as real life NI

Not half as mad as you were when we had NI in our possession. 😃 Ours is a long standing smouldering anger built on centuries of oppression. Yours is more like a two year old throwing a tantrum.

I dont see what is your problem silly Brits. You puffed out your chest , told us you were going to invade and .... nothing. The failure here is entirely yours

UK CANNOT INTO IRELAND

Patton: DO IT, we can havem

Sean Power, I'm pleased you've turned some statement about Scotland withdrawing from the United Kingdom into the standard Republican rant about NI that we have all heard a million times.

As ever if it makes you mad that a small part of your island is home to some people with different views than you, imagine what it is like to be English, making up over 80% of the population of this island and then having to share it with Welsh and Scots. Should I too take up an armed struggle and shoot a few that disagree with me ?

Peace.

UK can *and will* into Ireland

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@ Joniff: It's not all about you.... you're not so self centred that you missed the article you were commenting on are you?

My jab at you was that you were self professed ignorant of Irish politics.... which I took to encompass Northern Irish politics. Yes it was

Maybe to you it was a republican rant but it's more about self-determination and democracy. Did you even read my comment???

1.I've no problem with people with opposing views living on the island of Ireland.... hell I disagree with most Irish people about most areas of politics.
2. I mentioned that I accepted the principle of consent as the only peaceful way forward.... and peace is the only way forward but I like how you attribute to me violent characteristics based on my beliefs... that's openminded and fair of you!
3. Your analogy with England makes absolutely no sense ..... is completely irrational and shows your basic lack of understanding of the whole situation.

You seem to be of the general misunderstanding that it makes me mad that some people on this island have different opinions on what State to be ruled by. My problem was with the gerrymandering of the voting area of the 6 counties. Have you ever even contemplated WHY there are 6 counties in NI and not 7, 8 or 9? Do you know who took part in the discussions to create the artificial territory that is NI? Do you know what instrument created it for the first time?

Go read some history books and come back for a discussion once you're informed of the facts. We may then disagree as to the value and inferences made from that info.

I *do* know a bit about it, and those counties were chosen as together they didn't want to secede.

Evil Brits giving people what they wanted, eh? Independence in the 26 and the status quo in the 6. What bastards.

^ lol lol lol lol lol lol ... wrong on pretty much everything.

"I *do* know a bit about it, and those counties were chosen as together they didn't want to secede."

No one was seceding.... there was an bill to give home rule to Ireland. Similar bills had been put forward and failed in the 60 years prior to the 1914 Home Rule Act passing. Secession was not an issue.

"Independence in the 26"
the 26 got independence? wtf.... when the 6 counties were chosen each section was to get Home Rule but the 26 counties ended up with.... well pretty much home rule but with their dominion status relatively linked to Canada and the ability to claim that the 26 county state was created thru a treaty rather than an act of Westminister Parliament.

"status quo in the 6"
The 6 counties got home rule untill direct rule was reimposed and had intermittent assemblies under sunningdale and now good friday agreements. There weren't to remain in the status quo... they were to get their own assembly.

"Evil Brits giving people what they wanted, eh?"
Noones claiming they were evil... they were acting in their own States interests and Irish people were acting in their own interests. Infact I would say it was more weak willed politicians bowing to ulster unionists that led to the 6 county clause in the Home Rule Bill and later events cemented the perseption that such was needed to "protect the unionists from the dangerous nationalist majority in Ireland".

You know... the one that voted in an overwhelming majority of nationalist MPs in 1919 (79 to the unionists 22). The 6 counties had never been treated as an independent unit.... not even an administrative boundry.

Was Pakistan (East and West) treated as an administrative unit prior to partition? (Hint: the answer's no, the borders go across 'administrative units') I don't see how that's relevant.

Dominion status was de facto independence within the de jure Imperial umbrella. The status quo to which I refer is their sovereign status, not how they're governed. cf. modern-day Scotland.

I'm afraid you're dancing on a pin-head. Ireland was partitioned for the right reasons. Same thing applied in India. The Irish situation, save for a few hot-heads caught on the wrong side and their cousins intent on owning something they never did, worked rather better than the Indian in the short term. Less so in the long term.

hit me 🙂

What about countys with nationlist majorities..Tyrone, Fermanagh, Derry city, Why were these place included in a protestant state for a protestant people....because they were given no choice, but were forced into the state of northern ireland and having being trying to get out of it every since...they civil and poltical liberties have been constanlty curtailed by the protesant De facto power, Example, gerrymandering First past the poll voting system,COuncil voting systems which stricly favoured property owning protestants.

Not to mention, the in-equilty experniced by northern catholic though housing, jobs, and healtcare..

I don't think anyone's claiming no mistakes were ever made, hence direct rule being established in the first place. However I really don't see what the civil rights movement had to do with people in a neighbouring country... and that's before we get into the constitutional territorial claim which can have no origins in the civil rights movement of later years.

As for a minority of people trapped the 'wrong' side, plenty of labour voters trapped in safe tory seats too... that's the nature of boundaries.

As a citizen of the Province of Northern Ireland and a citizen of eUK I am all in favour of close alliance with my close friends from the Republic of eIreland - but I prefer to remain part of eUK. The eUK political scene is just a little more to my liking!


So Ireland - let's be close friends - but please do not try to assimilate my home - it's not a nice thing to do!


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