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My desciption needs altered I believe... You know what to write.
Good article none-the-less and it speaks the truth.

tbh
There's already one ever going to be one winner...

And that's me the King of eIreland, weh heyyyyy


srsly though, I'm not sure what's going on at the moment. Intentional political suicide is probably the closest definition of the current situation.
I don't quite understand the reason behind it, but I'm pretty sure I know how it will end up.

Padraig as CP >>> Do unpopular stuffs >>> eIreland becomes somewhat more active again(mostly political BS) >>> ??? >>> Profit

Replace ??? with slight increase of citizens and activity due to greater competition among politicos and there might be a bit of a plan there.

I'm very sceptical though xD

I like the way you describe me o/

Took me over a year to be described as a rising member of the Irish Community but I did it

😁)))

omg, chewie lil booey 😃..

Yes Im still in the backgrounds, 😃 I been doing some fighting in the defence of ireland although I havent been public 😛

I didn't make the list.
I am unimportant. : [

Bhane you didn't spam the other article with your views on things so i didn't know where you lay factions wise. 😛

I only added people who I saw that commented on the the other article.

I didn't comment on the other article, I am unimportant and barely anyone knows me. It is simple Irasian, you're in love with me.

Ross you are only in there because you asked me to put you in there on the IRC >.>

wish u luck : )

Are you taking the piss now, Irasian?
Should we go on, as nothing has ever happened?

"false logs being released."

Both Seanan and O'leary admitted that the log was genuine. Padraig's denial was debunked in a few minutes after him posting it.

"Which ever side you choose Ireland loses. Let us band together my brothers and sisters to create a single faction rather than a multitude of other factions that are tearing our country apart. Let us make a united Ireland. United we stand strong, separate we are ineffectual"

Can you be even more hypocritical? You try to put a face on the matter as it was two, equally dishonest "factions". In reality, it was the ICA attempting to take-over the EA, and not the way around.

Exactly as Daghda wrote:

"every minister, who has a bit of honour left and cares really about ireland should take personal consequences, fence sitters and opportunists included.""

"always speaks his mind and what he believe to be true no matter how harsh the facts"

Harsh facts say your government is led by a figure who has let in British PTOers for Gold, plotted to take-over another Irish party for petty revenge to criticism, and admitted in the log leaked of doins so before with every other party.

Again, let's quote Daghda:

"every minister, who has a bit of honour left and cares really about ireland should take personal consequences, fence sitters and opportunists included.""

SHM Irasian actually took a good neutral view of the situation by saying 'potential plans/ false logs being released.' he does not alienate people and make himself look like an idiot by simply saying what information was fed to him by someone and not thinking about it.

"Irasian actually took a good neutral view of the situation by saying 'potential plans/ false logs being released.'"

Irasian is acting as an apologist for the perpetrators, Seanan and O'leary clearly admitted the log was genuine. Irasian is trying to fight the fire by manipulating facts and implying it is a personal battle between me and the ICA gang. It is not. It is a plot against the EA constructed by the ICA.

Irasian is simply showing that he does not belong to the category Daghda describe😛 ministers "who have a bit of honour left and cares really about ireland ".

This is no longer a comment war, this is a decisive moment where everyone has to make it clear whether he is loyal to Ireland or to Padraig's gang.

We already know the ILP's answer ...

Well go on then, what is this 'ILP answer' you have predicted?

Thinking about what? That this hasn't happened?
This conversation got confirmed by a few people our own PP included.
Is it SHMs fault now?

this gets more and more amusing 🙂]

I don't know mate, it seems to me that you are the one who is manipulating the facts.
Care to state who is part of the ICA and who is involved?

Why would I want to apologise for those tools? All I want is for this grudge to end. It is rather annoying. It sort of smells like that grudge between Marcus Suridius and Gonzo.

I am only expressing my views on the matter and from the way I see it and the way it was explained to me is that it is a personal battle between you both.

SHM we are not all against you. You don't need to be hostile to everyone who comments.

"Seanan and O'leary clearly admitted the log was genuine"
Insult my honour if you wish but don't try to make yourself innocent in this.

So where is SHMs fault in this particular case?
I hardly believe that he's behind the PTO of EA.
Your defence gets more and more pathetic, sorry Irasian

I am not trying to blame SHM for the PTO. He just a tendency to aggravate and attempt alienate everyone who states their opinions on anything. He seems to have a grudge against the IA and the ICA and anyone who has/had anything to do with them.
If SHM has any fault it is because he alienates and aggravates way too many people.
People who seemed to have warranted an attack:
Ian E Coleman you viciously attacked even though he posted his views on what happened "Drawing people together seems inevitably to pull others apart"
Seanan who was trying to explain the situation you assaulted him even though he has pretty much nothing to do with them.
Patrick O'Leary only allowed Padraig to run as he runs a democratic party who choses who they run even for Party President, "You are a servile invertebrate"
I have finally been convinced that the logs are real.
And what am I trying to defend?
We all know that Padraig is untrustworthy and a known troll. It is known that he is trying to PTO the ILP as well.

From what I know it is/was Celtic Tiger's idea in the first place.

The attempt to PTO EA was dishonourable and should have been attempted.

put me in there with the oldies there man 🙂

"I don't know mate, it seems to me that you are the one who is manipulating the facts."

No, it doesn't seems to you, you are perfectly aware that you are lying.

"26Patrick O'learyDay 1,358, 16:12
12h 19m ago
Me, Seanan, Irasian, etc. were taking part, yes, encouraging this behaviour, no."

I"I would prefer if they had not even thought about taking over EA because in my opinion they are trying to destroy the heart of Ireland. I view EA very highly and this move of theirs should be disapproved not only as affects you in a harsh way but it actually hurts all of Ireland. "

You've just admitted above you and Seanan 'had the same logs'. You'had never voiced our 'opinion' before the plot was uncovered by Conway.

My question is:

Have you done anything to stop this? Have you warned anybody in EA? Have you voiced your dismay publically?

And I know the answer. Neither you, nor Seanan, nor anyone from your "government' has. You are trying to slander me in order to act as an apologist for the gang. Have I ever let in PTOers? Have I planned or took part in a PTO attempt against another Irish party? Have I ever stolen a single pound from the community? The answer is clearly no. It all was committed by the people you are trying to cover for so desperately.

Equally disnhonest factions? O rly?
When will you stop being that hypocritical?

"I am not trying to blame SHM for the PTO. He just a tendency to aggravate and attempt alienate everyone who states their opinions on anything."

rotflmao. you don't blame me for the PTO. how nice!

"The attempt to PTO EA was dishonourable and should have been attempted."

priceless.

"SHM we are not all against you. You don't need to be hostile to everyone who comments."

Of course I'm not hostile to "everyone who comments". I am hostile to your gang only, the gang you first tried to clear and now try to dishonestly distance yourself from. Not that I've ever expected any of you taking responsibility for your deeds.

" It sort of smells like that grudge between Marcus Suridius and Gonzo."

Gonzo was in most of criticism perfectly and clearly right. He was absolutely and ultimately wrong by expressing his disgust by letting in a British PTOer.

But that does not compare him to me. That equals what your president has done.

"Patrick O'Leary only allowed Padraig to run as he runs a democratic party who choses who they run even for Party President, "You are a servile invertebrate"
He proved that fact with his own article, denouncing and expelling a member of his party for an act that has been committed by his own party's presidential candidate - and shut up once asked about it.

That was undoubtedly the most hypocritical moment of eIrish history for months.

"We all know that Padraig is untrustworthy and a known troll."

ahh is it so? So where are all the people NOW who knew it and shouted to vote for him before the CP election?
I don't have to point out the names here, but there were a lot.

Shame on everyone who knew it and despite of that still voted for him.Wasn't me, that's for sure : P
And shame on everyone who still support him.

"ahh is it so? So where are all the people NOW who knew it and shouted to vote for him before the CP election?"

A very good question. Where are the people who had information on what's going on and condemned it _publically_, warned the EA, or did anything to stop all this?

I see only one: Conway. The rest shut up and let the gang going on with the plot.

Stranger: I'm pretty sure these logs happen yesterday, last night. You seriously having a go at Irasian and myself for not expressing an opinion as soon as the log happened?

Conway released the logs because CT did not back out of the race. I think if myself, Irasian, Patrick and Conway all released the logs in an article it would be considered spam. You have heard our opinions on it, we did not find it funny and we do not support CT's actions.

Please Seanan, don't lead this debate ad absurdum by dis attracting from the real issue here preferring that it would all be CTs fault.
It's not all about CT it's more about our "untrustworthy" CP and the people who still voted for him, despite our ALL knowledge aqnd still back him.

Daghdha: The calls are reaffirming for impeachment over this incident. If this incident is irrelevant, then we return to election of a rogue - to which the verdict is: Public mandate > individual opinion.

This only becomes relevant if Padraig actively supports a PTO of EA, and not just say it to a small group of ICA-channel users. Then it is a platform for impeachment - the discontent with the election results is not.

And again, Seanan, i was never talking about any impeachment.
May i remind you of Irasians quote:
""We all know that Padraig is untrustworthy and a known troll."
Never mind the trolling but to vote for someone who is known as "untrustworthy" by ALL for CP in the first place and then back him now after his involvement in such a dishonourable act, that is far beyond my personal understanding.
Or was it again just for the "lolz" ?

People voted for someone "untrustworthy" then. Public mandate for a rogue! Need not remind that Padraig fits the bill "Loveable Rogue", hes known internationally, and is committed to Ireland - if you took out Rogue then thats a platform for a celebrated CP. I've seen alot of oldfart come out of the cracks to vote for Padraig.

We are not the first country to elect a Rogue CP. I could name a few.

As such, I am not commenting on his legitimacy to be CP (because thats already been voted on) I am only commenting on incidents within his term. Elections have finished, the winner chosen, there is only polices and actions which need addressing.

When Seanan and others who did not support the attempted PTO have their names pinned to a conspiracy address the accusations flung in their direction, they are hardly initiating a distraction, or leading ad absurdum.

If you want to avoid "distraction" and build concensus, then perhaps you should take it easy with the accusations levied against other players who disagree with this whole affair.

"Public mandate > individual opinion. (...) Elections have finished, the winner chosen, there is only polices and actions which need addressing."

Dare to say it after your coup against the elected president? After letting down Ireland in the hours of the British attack? After stealing from the treasury multiple times? After letting in British PTOers? After launchi

And you dear to speak about your gang being 'committed to Ireland'? when we are talking about him and his VP plotting to take over another Irish party?

How deep you can sink anymore?

Exactly who are you addressing that to SHM?

Likely me Snuggles. He gets a hard on whenever its me talking.

Popularity is not always a good thing...

It's not a hard-on Seanan, it's nausea.

SHM U MAD BRAH ?

Why am I not on any lists, damn you Irasian.

Also I lol'ed so hard when I saw Karl the tool Korne back commenting here. You not got some new militia to setup and run into the ground?

lol, I also appear to be (mercifully) absent... feel free to keep it that way 😛

The battle continues in an article about the battle. WOW.

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Hey hey hey, hold it there, I'm not in ANY faction. I don't give a flying toss. I'm not claiming to represent anyone but myself.
I've done my stint of battling, and feck all support you get from anyone here till the crap lands on their own doorstep.
S'a game lads, and no longer a very interesting one in eIreland. Thanks for that.
If I wanted to hang out and converse with a bunch of foul-mouthed eejits, I could always call into some culchie underage disco rather than engaging with the keyboard warriors playing it anonymous here....
There are days when I truly wonder if any of you have a life outside of IRC. Then I remember...of course you don't.

still in possession of the whip you call a tongue i see 😃 😃


well said 😃

Where am I in this game? I am the Minister of Immigration god dammit! lol

As I mentioned before if you aren't in the article I didn't know where you stood in relation to this at the time of posting.

Would be helpful to update this as it's accepted the logs are legit... incase it would give people the wrong impression.

I just updated it o7