The state of affairs: BG-TR-GR-Eden future
Boyan
Bulgarian – Turkish soap opera
I wasn’t sure whether to begin with Eden or Turkey but the Turkish drama somehow seems more appropriate. First of all I would like to express my sincere regrets that Turkish integration into Eden failed this way. There were continuous mistake from all the parties involve
😛Bulgaria, Turkey, Eden HQ. Both Turkey and Eden failed to convince that Turkey could be trusted as the negotiations in the last month were turned into blackmailing via the media. For weeks the question was not how to help economically Bulgaria but how to avoid the country’s veto power. Thus Bulgaria consolidated its negative attitude and saw its rights as an equal member of the alliance threatened. Negotiations from that point were doomed to failure.
It is also necessary to admit that in the last two months the Bulgarian foreign policy never intended to reach a compromise. Turkey was never seen as a friendly country due to its specific location. Ankara puts Bulgaria in a cage and leaves the country with limited and economically unsustainable options for war. Even if Turkey had given the 2 Iranian regions to Bulgaria their full membership would have still be considered a miracle.
Unfortunately that was Turkey’s only mistake. It is not because they are not loyal cuz they are. It is not because they are not friendly because they are and they have proved it numerous times. For those reasons we should neither blame Turkey nor Bulgaria but the HQ for allowing this to happen at first place.
In the last six months Turkey helped our allies and was ready to help us too. If Bulgaria wanted to cooperate with Turkey and give Ankara a chance the MPP would have been signed long time ago.
Turkey chose to become a member of Eden and has no chance going back to One. Bulgaria is the only country that has problem with them and thus we should leave Eden and let them follow the path they have chosen. We have no moral ground to deny them membership, no moral ground to blackmail the rest of our allies, no moral ground to stay in a brotherhood where damage and foreign interests have become a priority.
Bulgaria – Eden drama
The elite group within Eden cannot simply force people to accept something just because it helps their agenda for global domination.
The main reason for the termination of Turkish membership is Eden itself. For months the Bulgarian concerns have been ignored, Bulgarian representatives treated with disrespect, Bulgarian requests manipulated, Bulgarian votes avoided, feared and disregarded. This is not the case for one administration but for mandates that had been following one after another and aggravating unintentionally the problem by just refusing to admit that there is a problem.
The two Iranian regions have not been a major concern for weeks. The suspension of Bulgaria’s full rights damaged permanently the trust in the alliance. At this moment the Bulgarian population itself doubts its own loyalty. The wound of the last 4 months continuous negligence towards Bulgaria’s feelings and beliefs has been left open for far too long. This is not longer a wound but a poison that soon or later would lead to the termination of Bulgaria’s membership.
The latest summit was something that had to be done long time ago if Eden was a real Brotherhood. We are about to see whether the core countries like Croatia, Romania, and Greece would renew their Turkish MPP which would clearly disregard the decision of the HQ and the Bulgarian stand once again.
Bulgreece
My Greek friends I’m afraid that Bulgreece is officially dead. I accept that Greece has more interest in prioritizing its close relationship with Turkey as a way to secure its southern colonies. There is absolutely no judgment in my words but sincere disappointment. We had great times in the last one year. You have found your new love and you have my blessing
😉
As some of you may have noticed I proposed Greece as a natural enemy. My decision was only preventive and defensive as your law has been proposed few hours earlier and so far it goes smoothly. Whatever you decide Bulgreece would remain in my game experience as the best time so far.
One
I have no intention and desire to fight for this selfish gang just because Bulgaria needs MPPs(damage) to attack Turkey. We haven’t been fighting against the damgehood for months to become part of it now.
Remember, One does not care about Bulgaria!!!! One only cares to survive!
Turkey + Bulgaria means Serbia, Hungary, FYROM, Indonesia, and Poland deleted again.
They don’t want Bulgaria cuz we are cool, they want Bulgaria cuz they need us!
That is not brotherhood but damagehood as well!
New alliance
It is time Bulgaria takes its destiny in its own hands to form a real brotherhood that carries some weight and meaning. It is time Bulgaria becomes a founding member of an alliance where loyalty and friendship are stronger than resources and damage. It is time we leave Eden and One in the past and look into our future.
To the Bulgarian government
I don’t know what your decision over Bulgaria’s foreign policy would be but please whatever you do make sure it is legal and has the support of the majority of the population. Our community has been divided enough in the last four months to undergo the same arguments.
PS.
Eden I love u and good bye.
o7
Comments
PERTAMAXXX
The name is eMacedonia
Не знаеш ли бугарски, брате? xD
We did our best. The problem is about BG gov. and EDEN HQ. Your goverment couldnt convince your people and they were coward and liar. You were talking about how BG gov. want Turkish support to EDEN but when we start noone hold his word. This article is unnecessary anymore. Fail BG gov, Fail Turkey gov.
Great article.We had a nice time, but its time to say bye.
Léon Reno bg gov failed to convince bulgarians cuz it didnt want to convince them, tr gov failed to convince bg cuz it thought HQ could make bg shut up n say yes ; )
noob guys in governments always make mistake : D
If this is how they make a desition in EDEN then was ONE is going to dominate sooner of later ---> http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/latest-eden-hq-logs-part-1-1989486/1/20
32Simo IlievDay 1,581, 23:23
24m ago
Не знаеш ли бугарски, брате? xD
bulgreece is dead and the future of bulgaria in eden is dead since bulgaria chose its bonus's.
We are about to see whether the core countries like Croatia, Romania, and Greece would renew their Turkish MPP which would clearly disregard the decision of the HQ and the Bulgarian stand once again.
sorry what? makes no sense. each country is free to mpp whoever.. isnt that why bulgaria mpp'd chile AFTER it was ordered not to by EDEN? isnt that why bulgaria mpp'd a ONE member?
so you keep writing your "State of affairs articles" keep trollolololering, but the time for "state of affairs" was long gone when people where holding press conferences and making secret bulgaria-ONE hq deals.
p.s. the whole article, tl;dr. just perused.
p.p.s. thanks to your cp for giving *ALL* the sumitt logs to ONE HQ.
bulgaria has managed to do what nobody else in greece has been able to do. unite EVERYBODY.. unite everybody against bulgaria.
@smee again it is funny to see a Greek talking about bonuses. Your colonies are the only reason you love Turkey so much, so keep quite please.
smee since when u represent EVERYBODY in Greece?
A few comments:
First you`re deluding yourself if you think you can create a new alliance that can matter on the international stage. Except Bulgaria, Russia and Chile damage is too small to matter. You will just become an appendix to ONE, like ABC, and they will just use your damage when they need you.
Second, Erepublik is bipolar. There is no way you can create a 3rd pole of power. Others tried [ONE, Terra] and failed. One way or another you will have to pick one of the sides and stick with it.
Third, your "real brotherhood" will last for a while until some immoral and power hungry wankers will get in power just like it happened in EDEN and start trading brotherhood for damage. Or even worse like it happened in Terra where they kicked out a member [Chile] for a non-member`s sake.
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The solution is simple - instead of running away and perpetual creating new alliances when you had enough, stay and fight.
Turkey was kicked out. So what stops you from reforming and recreating EDEN the way it has to be, the way it used to be.
Stop complaining and start working.
@Wallachian
You are correct, but hte problem is that there is nothing left in EDEN from us. After the reactions of our greek and croatian "friends" I think its over. Do you think that most of the greeks and croats will fight for Bulgaria? Or the opposite?
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5064/kadar4.png TURKEY FOREVER ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahhaahhaahhahaahahahaahahahahahahah are you mad ??? 😃
Wallachian x2!
we had what we wanted, now is time to try rebuilding what's left from alliance
Hail Greece! ! !
Poor trolls from Greece,united over virtual money.Wretched,you show your face.Smee,the truth is that you sold friendship for bonuses.I'm sure you won't be surprised if someday Macedonia and Bulgaria close their position in answer of what you've done.There were a lot of greek players that were our mates for a long time.
"My Greek friends I’m afraid that Bulgreece is officially dead"
i really hope that this isn't true... friendship between 2 communities can’t simple cease to exist overnight because of the stupid decisions some "immoral and power hungry wankers" (as wallachian said) made.
I can't accept that
"we should neither blame Turkey nor Bulgaria but the HQ for allowing this to happen at first place."
As Wallachian said, there's always scope of fixing it. EDEN needs a new HQ and with folks with somewhat better diplomacy skills than what has been displayed over the last few months - which in itself is surprising since it is more or less the very same folks who did a terrific job not too long back in changing EDEN's fortunes in spite of being the underdogs.
So, hope still remains that Someone reminds themselves of their genius and turns this entire situation around.
In either case, we don't offer much damage, but India shall always be with our Bulgarian brothers. Just please don't join the ONE idiots. X D
o7
Batneis,
Stop fighting against them in RWs, send Flaustino to give 80 mil damage in 2-3 battle of theirs and save their ass and they will start loving you again. Because thats how people are, they have short memory and they react positively to having things done their way and being made to feel special.
If you do that I guarantee you all Greeks and Croats will be like "Turkey, who?"
Just do what Turkey did to win their sympathy after 3-4 years of animosities.
smee, Щ+Щ!
wallachian +1
@ Wallachian
o7
Wallachian, you are the worst manupilater of this funny eWorld. Greece was the one that tanks for us hard in our wars against fyrom, after those great battles we started to become what we are now.
Your little brain can't understand the dynamic of societies, thats why you kicked out of EDEN HQ, there is no need for you to make us understand how a required desicion that was.
Кажи Македонија бе мече, не се гаври по своја крв. И ти си Македонец по потекло !
"They don’t want Bulgaria cuz we are cool, they want Bulgaria cuz they need us!"
Sir this part is not true to be honest. If you attack Turkey it would be the same as it was so for ONE it shouldn't make any difference if you join ONE or not. For example for me I found very cool people in Bulgaria. I don't want to argue with you about whole part. Just this one sentence 🙂
"Bulgreece would remain in my game experience as the best time so far"
😁 this and nothing more.
A big vote for one of my best ingame friends. Respect o7
small again
.... bulgaria chose its bonus's.
fed to the hungry not believe
I never stopped fighting for my EDEN allies all these months! And I am not the only one! Why nobody notices us and instead the accent is on Flausino's acting. It seems everybody helps him achieve his goals by bringing Bulgaria to ONE.
And I am really disappointed from greek reaction as well. It's so damn OBVIOUS why are you so in love with Turkey when one looks at the map. Greece is in Farmville mode for quite long time already and blaming Bulgaria for wanting bonuses do not fit well coming from greeks.
"Turkey chose to become a member of Eden and has no chance going back to One. Bulgaria is the only country that has problem with them and thus we should leave Eden and let them follow the path they have chosen. We have no moral ground to deny them membership, no moral ground to blackmail the rest of our allies, no moral ground to stay in a brotherhood where damage and foreign interests have become a priority."
WTF I just read? LOL so Turks burned the bridges behind their back and Bulgaria should go out of their alliance to make room for them, because Turks has no other place to go? Who cares, it's their f*** problem. Why should Bulgaria face consequences of failed turkish foreign affairs?
Излезте от филма.
"Do you think that most of the greeks and croats will fight for Bulgaria? Or the opposite?"
Good question after yesterday. And you are wrong Wall, ppl dont have so short memmory.
Vote : )
Now Kiss!!! : )
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/now-kiss--1990023/1/20
Bla Bla bla. Instead of growing some balls and do the right thing our politicians keep on escalating the agony. And eden are even more chicken than our own politicians, they won't kick us out because they need our dmg even if it's only half of it. retarded....
Lazy Greg, unfortunately or not, Wallachian is right. The proof is the Greek and Croatian change of attitude towards Turkey.
Ти си много просто животно ... За кво го пусна тва NЕ бе бастун
Homos-Boyanicus: (from dictionary) A person with Bulgarian DNA but Turkish self-identity, who is capable of selling the country he is born (Bulgaria) just to save another country (Turkey)
Smee-Aganicus: (from dictionary): a person under the age of 13, how thinks himself as a Internet troll, but gets really upset when other people are trolling him. This leads to unstable and inadequate behavior, cry, nightmares, and extensively usage of the "Caps Lock" with the false believe that "screaming" will help him convince people things which even he is not convinced...
bloodone, LOL
За мен статии публикувани в българската преса САМО на английски са обида за българския читател. Нищо лошо няма в това другите да ни разбират, но все пак си имаме език на който сме говорили още в дестката градина(а и преди това). Въпрос на уважение към аудиторията. Не е технически а етичен проблем
бојан што си ти по националност? знае ли еден од твоите родители каква стока чуваат по дома
По националност е Циган
@Krum III- big difference between enemy, who want become friend, and brother, who become enemy.
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бојан што си ти по националност? знае ли еден од твоите родители каква стока чуваат по дома
If you weren't so crazy about not being in the same alliance with turkey or fyrom you wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. And just to remind you, some years ago we fought side by side many times to liberate you from romania and you fought very hard to defend hungarian and our colonies in china.