The Quest for Power
Alias Vision
There are promises of change and there is the quest for power.
Over the past few months, no party has had as much success as the Canadian Progressive Front (CPF). They have consistently risen above all others to control the greatest proportion of Congress, or the Speaker of Congress, or even the Presidency. Even though the outcome may not always have been what had been hoped, there is no denying the influence and grip that this party holds when it comes to politics.
This should really come as no surprise considering they consistently attract some of the most vocal and dedicated citizens to their cause. It also helps that their positions on issues are rarely frivolous and usually backed up by competent argument (the same can't always be said about their opposition however).
Parties promise many things, few promise the activism that the CPF does. It is quite refreshing from an elector’s point of view, to have at least one place where you can exercise your vote and know what you are getting. The CPF will actually oppose government to promote debate and make sure the best outcome is reached... well at least that is the theory. It is often too easy to let the heat of the moment dictate ones position rather than allow for sober second thoughts. This is by no means unique to the CPF but rather an almost universal tenet in our elected (and named) officials.
So now a question must be asked. What is a party that has spent months on branding, months of positioning, months and considerable effort to articulate a platform and philosophy to distinguish themselves from the mass... what are they doing attempting to take over other parties?
Tyler F Durden, the once longest serving party president and party founder, successfully takes over the now rebranded Watchmen party.
Taiwan Panda, the famous black marketer and CPF faithful, successfully takes over the also rebranded Golden Panda party.
Spencer Magee, the still active CPF party Vice-President, makes a run in the CNC.
jbdivinus, the "chaos" prone ex-CPF president, ran in the CPP.
Trenton Rendell, a man many would have expected to see be a CSD lifer, moves to the CPF after an unsuccessful attempt at party leadership.
For the last little while the rhetoric of the CPF luminaries has been that mechanics are god. Were they attempting to show Canada with actions the truth of their words? Or... is this a preface to a much bigger gambit which would be to show the futility of the whole process by running and supporting a candidate that would make a mockery of the institutions we created for ourselves?
Those questions can only be asked of them.
Meanwhile we should also ask the CPF their reasoning for running a candidate that received erroneously $666 CAD and will not return it. This is not some green rookie but a veteran and very important member of our society.
Voters beware the unanswered questions.
Comments
Foist!
This article makes me moist.
😮
Alias is getting conspiranoid. Love it!
This article asks some key questions and I hope the author can dig deep to find answers in later publications. We should envy a writer who can do wonders in both econ-analysis and gumshoe sleuthing.
2/5 Darn ...
Oh well CPF power will grow! Resistance is useless.
Some coincidences are too obvious to deny
AV is on fiyah
Another sensitive subject approached by AV, at least resigning from the position of speaker truly does give you the opportunity to speak your mind.
Love it!
What is this "Golden Panda Party" you speak of?
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PROPAGANDA! PROPAGANDA! PROPAGANDA
Actually there is no conspiracy.
I ran for the PP of another Party because I missed being relevant politically. I truly wanted the CPF to start grooming it's own leaders of tomorrow so I vowed to not run there - Addy is doing a heck of a job and he is grooming those that will one day replace him.
The CPF has always been a party of strong, defined leadership.
I ran it (running for the CFP) by "the guys" and they were very supportive. Besides, it was too confusing to nubs to see a CPF party and a CFP party - that had to end. 😉
At the last minute the ones you speak of all ran for parties too...kind of spur of the moment like...lulzy.
Politics have become like everything else in this country - boring as all hell. Besides, my personal detractors painted everything I did onto the CPF and that got old and I got tired of watching the entire party I helped to build get smeared with my satire, etc. In short - it was best to take a sabbatical.
In case you haven't noticed - I am having fun again. I have turned an invisible party into the talk of the town and it even brought AB back into politics - which as we all know - is entertaining as all hell.
You're welcome.
\o/
...and don't paint the WHOLE party of 300 members with the same brush as you paint ONE MAN...that's EXACTLY what I am talking about.
That is beneath you AV - and you know it.
lol
The CPF is Canada's dominant source of activism?
I consider this all very srs bsns
I think the question for the CPF would be, if they have been in charge for so long, why is eCanada still so fail?
However there is only one answer to that question, and no amount of trolling will hide it.
The truth hurts.
"...the futility of the whole process by running and supporting a candidate that would make a mockery of the institutions we created for ourselves?"
Who does this refer to exactly?
Not PimpDollaz because you refer to him later with "Meanwhile..."
Not just one man Tyler, a member of the CPF privy council and someone who is listed to run again in one of Canada's most important regions. The leaders of a party represent their party.
As for your second question... I'm referring to whoever would think up such a scheme in the first place. If you wish to take the credit for that, by all means do so but I wasn't pointing fingers.
Tyler, if you were taking the plunge in another party to become relevant again, why are you listed as running in Ontario in the CPF pre-election Congress article?
Rubbish article is rubbish, Mr. Ex-CPF'er
Was the $200 Fine your way of trying to extract your own personal revenge on the party that helped you run for Congress yourself?
Some gratitude.
I tried to help you out when you were the Speaker, even though I didn't have to. I don't see any mention of that.
Pathetic. The WGC should be ashamed that is has resorted to yellow journalism.
It's a good thing you left, Alias. All of our best members are still with the party, and we are going strong. Sour grapes is all I see here, not balanced "reporting". You are too blind to see anything good that we have done, like a real journalist would. This is worse than anything you would find in a tabloid rag.
this has godda be fo the lulz, cause 90% i read here is bullshit
Some good questions as far as I can see in this article. I have been wondering, and on occasion asking why the CPF ran in four seperate party elections, and the answer I have received as well is "for the lulz" To me that is a shocking, and disapointing answer from a party that has indeed painted itself as the "leaders" of Canadian politics. For the lulz is a response I have seen bantered about for quite some time now, and it saddens and disapoints me every time I see it used for some reckless, or insulting tactic. eCanada is not your joke, and those parties are run and operated by people who care just as much as you do, or should anyways. No one can stop the two clickers within a party from voting where they want, which is more often than not the big names they see. Those that ran are indeed the big names of the party.
For the lulz? For the shame.
Haha, Nosyt. What happened there?
In my view, the CPF is only dominant as their rather high profile members continued to play. Most of their membership is as dismal in activity as the rest of the main parties. Without TFD, Addy Lawrence, PimpDollaz, and JB, their congress activity is pretty bad as well (and a lot of those activity involved arguing back and forth on some personal issues).
We should have also spent our party election votes to prevent PTOs in other countries though. Seriously, when allies such as Norway and South Africa consistently are under threat, wasting that many votes on party elections (especially with a clear winner) is kinda dumb.
Alias, there is a court case involved the congressional candidate that you mention and it is in process. I suggest you reframe your remarks as they are libelous, he is innocent until proven guilty.
I believe that he is innocent and that is why I endorse his candidacy.
When the judicial system reaches a decision, we will consider changing our behaviour, or not, until then, mind your business.
As for the rash of PP candidates, curiosity killed the cat.
@ Saya
TP asked me to babysit while he ran for congress
~hyuu~
So did sitting still on the railway track Addy
Seems to me like the CPF is reacting a little too harshly for questions asked.
*shrugs*
Insult me if it makes you feel better, I fail to see how it has any bearings on this article. If you can't face basic questions, I don't know why anyone should trust you running this country.
Never back down from asking questions Alias - or anyone else for that matter.
ITS A CONSPIRACY I TELLS YA, THE CPF IS PLANNING ON INJECTING MIND CONTROL JELLY INTO THE WATER SUPPLY AHHH AHHHH
AV:
Why am I listed as running for the CPF in Congress?
I dunno...maybe because the Party I am PP of is 8th overall and does not qualify for Congress maybe? I have been told that is how it happens when members of parties that are not Top 5 want to have someone run for Congress.
I received offers from the UN and the CPF for this purpose.
Not the CSD, the CPP or my 'friends' in the DAL.
It also occurs to me that I am not the only one who does this.
Rolo Tahmassee from the CEP is running with the CPF and I think there may even be some CNC members running with the CSD.
You can *shrug* all you like but when you insinuate what you have you better face the music when the band plays.
Also, I ran for the PP of the CFP 3 days before the election and if you bothered to ever go on IRC you'd know that I held frequent Q&A sessions with eCanadians about it. I PMd everyone in the Party informing them of my intentions and got back great feedback and thus won that election - one I didn't even vote in mind you.
I got a kick when you mentioned Trenton Rendell in your 'conspiracy theory'. He ran for the CSD PP almost every month and only left that party because Cham ran on a campaign to END the CSD.
Dude....really, I never pegged you as a tin foil hat guy.
You were on such a roll with your economy articles too...
So you are going to quit your party presidency to move to the CPF to run in Congress? Then tell me what was the point of the exercise?
Honestly guys, they were pretty innocent questions (well, one not so innocent) that needed to be asked. If people can't even question you now...
I am under no obligation to disclose to you how I intend to run for Congress and then return to my party, nor am I under any obligation to disclose to you (a member of another party) why I do what I do.
Furthermore - your questions were loaded questions - providing insinuations within, which partially answers the question for your readers.
I may put pictures in my articles but I am not a moron - I know the English language and I know what you were getting at. You wrote the whole 'pat on the CPF back' article just to put in your theory at the bottom.
Who is into conspiracies now?
Asking why key CPF party figures decided to all run to try and takeover smaller parties is a legitimate question.
Asking why a key CPF member refuses to return Canadian funds and is still enjoying full party support is a legitimate question (which Addy responded to quite succinctly).
Here is a new question for you... why is the CPF the first (and often only) party to threaten libel and lawsuits when they are questioned?
Political parties are public entities, therefore they are subject to public scrutiny and public questions. Insults and innuendos of your own just doesn't change that fact, sorry.
You chose to see something nefarious and evil here, that is your choice.
Dude...just remember, when this is all over - you brought it on yourself.
1. I was very clear about my reasons and methods.
I posted them above, you should read them.
2. PimpDollaz is an eCanadian citizen and is free to make any choice he wishes when someone DONATES money to him. It's not like everyone in the CPF is rubbing their hands because they're all gonna get a slice. FFS man, you're barking at the moon on this one trying to paint the whole party with PERSONAL DECISION of one citizen. As Addy lawrence said - and HE is the PP of the CPF - there is an ongoing case about that. Also, riddle me this: Where is the WGC prize money coming from? Yeah - didn't think so.
3. That libel thing happened ONCE and was between saltydog and I.
That ONLY EVER happened once. Stop smokin' whatever you're smoking.
You make it sound like a daily occurrence.
4. Oh yeah, your article ends on SUCH a high note for the CPF.
Yeah, it was ALL just a great big group hug, wasn't it.
Unsub
Tyler, you making this personal does not invalidate the facts.
You want to unsub because you disagree with what I said, that is legitimate. It's just not possible to have everyone agree with you all of the time.
The CPF is not above criticism. I am not above criticism... unfortunately instead of countering points you decide to name call. Your loss.
O rly?
What facts?
Your whole theory is based on speculation.
I countered all your points. When you decided to not recognize them THEN and ONLY THEN did this become personal - because if your intention really was to get answers (which I provided) you would have said,
"Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing that up Tyler."
But you didn't, did you?
In fact - you did not recognize a single post of mine and continued on your anti-CPF rhetoric.
I also notice that you said nothing about my question - namely the WGC prize money ($500 CAD).
Oh wait - it's a closed congress thread about accepting proceeds of "crime", that's right. We can't talk about that, can we? No, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Look at my voting record on that topic Tyler.
@Alias
The CPF is principled and takes stands. The stands we take include those based on game mechanics, on role play and lulziness. This draws opposition. Some of that opposition is unfounded and needs to be squashed. In those cases, we counter-punch; with lulziness, with game-play, with role-play (libel and lawsuits).
I tell you one thing, it keeps things interesting 🙂
BTW, great article. It single-handedly puts today in my Top 10 Fun Days in eRep.
~fkuu~
Resistance is futile. All parties will be assimilated.
Like I PM’d Alias; If this article has everyone so hot and bothered then it must be true! Every word of it. I live for this stuff! Win, win and big WIN for Alias!
"...and don't paint the WHOLE party of 300 members with the same brush as you paint ONE MAN...that's EXACTLY what I am talking about.
That is beneath you AV - and you know it."
Tyler, I ask this with love - you know I'm a fan. Isn't that what you did to TCO? After Tem's lulz action and Rylde's temporary tantrum, didn't you decide ALL of TCO was broken and unworthy of funding? It sure seemed that way to me.
meh, Alias' article on titanium was slanted too. A good journalist doesn't let his personal views appear so vibrant on the page
never subbed so can't unsub
don't care for the writing...
I can't believe he kept the money.
@Tyler: Good reply.
@Rolo: I know I can't please everyone. As for personal views, I try not to let them slant my writing too much but you have to have an angle right?
Alias, the lesson you can learn from all this is that bringing criticism will bring you trolls.
Good luck.
For the Libellians: remember that that case never went anywhere
: )
As far as I expected it to.
😉
With TFD giving up because he couldn't prove slander, libel or defamation
; )
Did not.
The courts were retarded.
The courts ARE retarded.
and
With most of the political parties in Canada having basically the same platform or not bothering to make a platform, these 'party dances' can only bring good things to Canada.
"Meanwhile we should also ask the CPF their reasoning for running a candidate that received erroneously $666 CAD and will not return it. This is not some green rookie but a veteran and very important member of our society."
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