The PTO Tactic and Its Inherent Political Hypocrisy
Arjay Phoenician
My first experience with the vaunted PTO tactic was in June, when I was a newbie in the United States. GLaDOS spooked the country by announcing PEACE was attempting to take over several political parties at once. My party, the Socialist Freedom Party felt safe, at the time there were only about 80 members, we were active and organized, and were someone to run for Party President we were not familiar with, we weren’t fooled. Osmany Ramon won re-election handily, and every US party remained safe. Having said that, there was wall-to-wall panic, which may have been the point all along, to wig the Americans out of their arrogance and comfort. Me, I was amused by it, GLaDOS says Boo, and everyone was running for the hills. I was a newbie, what did I know?
Shortly after that, in Bolivia, we had to deal with THREE PTO attempts in one election, succumbing to the dreaded AFK Party. Ever since then, this has been one of my driving forces, to expose PTO groups, to assist countries who are dealing with PTO problems, and to eventually rid the world of the tactic once and for all.
The new citizenship module didn’t stop the tactic, it only meant the groups conducting them had to get more creative. The basic concept of sweeping in on a small country a couple days before an election to steal it and the treasury changed only in that PTO groups had to become precise in their attacks, taking on new countries before their first Congress can be elected, thereby shutting the door on free citizenship in that country. That was the case in Bolivia. That was also the case in South Africa and South Korea last month, when both countries returned to the world after several months in oblivion, in both cases, PTO groups tried to take advantage of the community which had spend weeks in negotiation with their parent nations (usually the very country which wiped them off the map in the first place).
I’ve heard of some rather creative ways of getting around the citizenship module to continue the tactic. The most outlandish thing I heard was the Romanian attempt to PTO Hungary by means of reviving dead multi’s; apparently you can plant a multi in a country, let him die, and when he is revived, he is automatically a citizen of that country.
People actually think of these things? They actually get in groups and discuss how they’re going to PTO a country, breaking down every nuance, looking for a new angle to exploit? While most of us are building businesses or careers or contact bases, there are actually people who sit up all night and hatch plots like this.
I think the most disgusting aspect of the PTO, however, is not the PTO itself, there’s always going to be thugs out there seeking to take what they didn’t build for themselves. I don’t find anything redeemable in commiting your life to such treachery, but that’s not the worst. The worst is the acceptance of the act, not just as a way of life in eRepublik, but as a tactic to be employed and even encouraged, letting some gang of mercenaries do the dirty work so their national benefactors can claim innocence in the matter.
The last couple of weeks, I’ve been talking about the so-called Theocrats in South Korea, and truly, they are just as nasty and shameless a cast of characters as I’ve encountered. They are punks on the level of the AFK, eTakeOver, and every other PTO gang I’ve dealt with.
While I consider their theft of an election by use of multi’s reprehensible and even criminal, what bothers me the most is how willing and even enthusiastic so many are to support them. The so-called Theocrats, they’re a known quantity, they’re parasites who live off the blood of others, just like so many others. The fact that their actions are embraced by so many, however, galls me to no end.
How the Ajay Bruno cult could be so universally demonized for trying to PTO South Africa, yet the so-called Theocrats are patted on the back for doing the exact same thing in South Korea, just boggles my mind. Further, it’s usually the same people engaging in this doublethink, calling one PTO group bastards and another PTO group friends.
I’ve solved the problem for myself. I loathe them all. Period. I remain consistent in my belief that PTO groups are a stain that needs to be removed. You’re welcome to agree or disagree with me on this, but this is my stand, this is where I plant my flag. I don’t cry bloody murder when a PTO group sets up camp in my country, then either act apathetic when they move onto another country, or worse, root for the PTO and support it.
This is one of the deepest hypocrisies in eRepublik, and I don’t use the word hypocrisy often for fear of rendering the word useless if overused. When a PTO is targeting your country, you beg the rest of the world to send help, you beg for voters to come to your country to rescue you and your political community. All too frequently these days, these same countries who were crying for help last month, this month they’re patting PTO groups on the back. This is something I just don’t get, if you were threatened with a PTO and scrounging the rest of the world for spare voters to come and save you from them, aren’t you saying that the PTO is something bad? If you’re posting bulletins in the media of other countries begging for help, aren’t you saying that you want the PTO to end, because it is a danger to you?
You can’t blame me for calling you a hypocrite if you did all that, then you turn around and support a PTO group for taking over some other country.
Either the PTO is a tactic that should be rejected by the decent community at eRepublik, or it should be wholeheartedly embraced, if you have any shred of consistency. If you reject it, reject them all, don’t carry favor for those who seem willing to kick your political enemies in the shin. If you embrace it, embrace it fully, but don’t cry for help when one comes to take your Congress and treasury; if you approve the concept, then you need to deal with the PTO attempt yourself, quietly, in your own country, and not suddenly act like it’s a big deal that you may lose your sovereignty and national wealth.
I know where I stand.
I also know where the AFK, eTakeOver, and the so-called Theocrats stand. Not only do they see nothing wrong with the tactic, they’ll tell you how they’re doing the world a favor in doing it. Talk to them sometime, they’ll tell you all about how they believe it’s they alone who make the game worth playing. Some will try to obscure the truth a little, play some logic games with you, but by and large, their basic reply is, yeah, we PTO’s this country, what are you going to do about it?
So I’m consistent, and they’re consistent.
When a country supports the PTO of a given country, conveniently forgetting how so recently they had to plead with the rest of the world for a few voters to counter the same tactic and save their political elite, that’s not consistent. That’s being a hypocrite, and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
I’d think basic decency would dictate that, were your country ever threatened by a PTO, you’d have a little sympathy for any other country under the same threat. How easy it is to turn a blind eye when it’s not your party, your nation, dealing with it. How easy it is to talk about the politics of the whole thing, to dummy the event down with talk of loyalty. This PTO group fought on our side once upon a time, we support them doing their thing on another country, so long as it’s not OUR country.
The so-called Theocrats are just the thugs-du-jour, they could have gone after another country, they just so happened to go after South Korea. Had they sought to PTO, say, Malaysia, I would have been consistent, I’d be in this with Malaysia, trying to drum up voters to counter the election theft, speaking out about the thieves trying to make off with their Congress and treasury. I’ve done it in the past, I’ll continue to do it. The PTO group would have been consistent as well, they’d be talking trash and telling you to get the hell out of THEIR country. The rest of you, I guarantee you, you’d be moistening your fingers in your mouths, then holding them up to the wind to determine where you stood on the issue.
You don’t have to worry, if you ask Arjay Phoenician for help staving off a PTO, Arjay Phoenician will do everything possible to help, to seek out caches of voters, to distribute information, to buy moving tickets. I’m not going to look up your political history and wonder if you merit my help. PTO’s are disgusting, I feel a sense of duty to help in any way I can. I’ve seen them up close, they’re ugly acts committed by soulless people. No country should have to deal with them. I’m honored to help if I can. You can count on me to be consistent. You can be hypocrites if you want to; you can try to save your own ass from the tactic, then turn around and give other communities in the same predicament the middle finger if you so choose. You can call PTO gangs a bunch of thieves when they’re coming after you, then call them heroes when they’re going after your neighbors. I’ll still help, because it’s the right thing to do. Fending off PTO attempts is higher on my list of priorities than wondering whether or not you’re two-faced.
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oh look I was first
that relation to theocrats and Ajay Bruno was dead on, when Ajay Bruno tried to PTO South Africa everyone cried wolf and hounded on him yet the theocrats are welcomed back into power by practically everyone after PTOing us
Amen to that.
rawr
Ajay, the Theocrats, and whomever else's unscrupulous attempts at power=grabs, aside, I respectfully disagree. Intent is everything. A war to oppress is not the same as a war to liberate, and a PTO to steal is not the same as a PTO to protect.
Sure it's a slippery slope. Welcome to life.
Bleh?
Theocrats= cool
Ajay Bruno= PTO
don't mention the PTO of Peru...once more.
to be honest, the PTO attempts where actually part of the scare tactic. we moved no votes, and I personally just wanted America to think a full fledged attack was coming. good times~
About the PTO of Peru, I have worked in the past with Peruvian Congressman Wally Wilson to track the AFK Party, apparently they went to Peru after they tried to PTO Brazil in July. I've talked with cabinet members and ambassadors in Peru, including Chisholm and Wayna Condor on these matters. Yes, Peru is no less deserving of attention than any other country affected by the PTO cancer.
Extremely well written article Arjay
I hope you'll loathe the exiled eSK citizens as well if they see to RWing and then TOing Thailand. That's one of the options they are now considering (at least some of them). Just ask Alfagrem. Though it's quite telling that this option even came up.
I just saw that Alfagrem is pulling that stunt in Thailand, and yes, if the report is true, then he's pulling the same tactic the so-called Theocrats used in Japan. Exile Chancellor Spade has made it clear that his community has nothing to do with the act, we'll see soon enough if that's the truth. I'm not going to condemn an entire community for one nutbar. Alfagrem, yes, he's no better than the so-called Theocrats, and Spade would be doing himself a favor by distancing him from the community.
See, that's the difference between you and me. You pointed something out, and I maintain consistency. I don't make excuses, I don't seek to validate anyone with spindoctoring. Spade called Alfagrem a rogue in his statement, we'll see soon enough. If Spade had even the smallest bit to do with it, I'm going to ream him out. If not, and he separates himself from Alfagrem, he'll be doing his community a favor in not getting entangled in these tactics. It would be complete hypocrisy for their community to ask the world for help against the so-called Theocrats, then turn around and use the same tactics on another country.
What excuse did I make? I think my views are quite consistent. I'm just simply more pragmatic than you. We were on eSK's side in this conflict (despite our good relations with Theocrats) but the conflict is now essentially over and the Theocrats are firmly in hold of eSK.
Btw as far as I know they won't remove Alfagrem from their government-in-exile, they just consider this RWing what he does in his free time.😁
If you're referring to Spade's statement, that's disappointing. Maybe a very angry article in the South Korean press will convince him otherwise. I hope he does the right thing.
But I don't buy the argument that everything is hunky-dory because the Theocrats are deeply entrenched. It doesn't undo what they did, or what they're doing.
My thinking is that anyone can "officially" say that they don't support something, but that has no bearing on what they really feel inside. In my talks which included Alfagrem, you could tell which side he (Spade) was on.
Another fantastically well-written article, Arjay.
I believe Alfagrem's intent is to cause a crisis and delay the war games, and thus the leveling of Theocrat multis, rather than to actually split Thailand and Malaysia.
But what do I know.
What you officially say is different than what you actually do. If Spade does what we're talking about, and he keeps Alfagrem as his right-hand man, he will lose whatever moral ground he might have had. Apparently this is Alfagrem's doing. This is a little more than a person looking at the list of battles to fight in, this is going out of your way to organize, putting up your own money (these things aren't cheap), and fighting with some idea of grabbing land.
The Theocrats did the same in Japan.
The only question remaining is, will Spade separate himself from Alfagrem? He's talked about reconciliation in the last few articles he's written, this may be a way to find some means to coexist with the Theocrats, to end the vicious and segregating taxation, to ease the bitterness in the press, to perhaps get a foot in the door in terms of KNP representation.
Like I said, expect an angry article in the morning.
I personally, as a Congressman of Malaysia and a longtime Thai citizen before that, will never support the so-called "South Korean Government in Exile" because of what they did. All that they have done is made me support the Theocrats more than I did so before.
I am running for President in Malaysia, and official non-recognition of the Government in Exile is in my platform. I do not care if the Theocrats leave, I will never recognize a government that contains Alfagrem or Yonai Keiko as ministers. As for Spade, well, words can mean whatever you want them to.
A mention! sweet... getting my 15 minutes. One correction, though, I'm no longer a congressman in Peru due to TO from the PMTF and Holy See.
"How the Ajay Bruno cult could be so universally demonized for trying to PTO South Africa, yet the so-called Theocrats are patted on the back for doing the exact same thing in South Korea, just boggles my mind. Further, it’s usually the same people engaging in this doublethink, calling one PTO group bastards and another PTO group friends."
So true, Arjay.
Let me know what I can do to help.
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You guys like how the Malaysian political elite has been trolling this article, fellas?
Trolling? We were simply offering our point of view. It seems you are not even open to dialogue if you consider opposing opinions simply trolling.
And btw it was you who started trolling our media if you have such a lousy definition for trolling...
I'm just saying, Nagyzee, it's funny how a guy in Canada, with South Korean citizenship, published an article in the US, where suddenly so much of the Malaysian political elite are commenting.
I don't call it trolling when I print something in the Malaysian press, specifically to talk to Malaysians about bad policies established by the Malaysian government. I call that journalism.
But hey, I have many groupies who follow my every word, wherever I go in the world, waiting for the right moment to pounce. Would you be more comfortable if I called you and your consorts groupies?
Take it easy, Nagyzee, we were having an open dialogue earlier in the comments section, weren't we? Yes, we were. And now that I called you a name, you get all blustery and defensive and start going off like I'm some sort of tyrant. I'm just a dude trying to get along in the world, calling it like I see it.
I just find it funny how this one guy can turn the entire Malaysian government into mush so easily. Am I really that much more powerful than you, Nag?
lol too funny. Things keep getting interesting. What says you on the Iranian Attack?
Unsubscribed.
I had a long comment, but I will sum it up with three unbeatable words: Laughing out loud.
Arjay, sure we were having an open dialogue in your previous article... until you stopped responding. The article is still up there and relevant. You can't even think of a response, and here everything is a blank slate, so you can just act like none of the valid points in the previous article ever happened. Nice deflection; everyone who reads this comment please bother to go to the article preceding and see Arjay's frankly villainous dialogue for what it is. I still insist I remember an Arjay that wasn't nearly as elitist.
I think we have all congregated around your paper because as I said in my PM, your words are grossly miscalculated and are a threat to our nation. However, you are a threat with international recognition. We are a small nation; not very many people know about us. We respond to threats best as we can. We can be your groupies if you want. We would be just as proud of that title as you were of being a "little ankle biter" back in the day.
If I am a threat to your nation, that's because I'm calling out poor leadership. You made a bad decision to side with the Theocrats, you need to deal with the consequences of your actions, and one of them just might be Arjay Phoenician coming into your country, getting in your face, and telling you you're wrong. I'm going to call it like I see it. I did it with other countries, and you supported it. Now it's your country, and suddenly, I'm a threat...?
You are all upset because of a single paragraph starting with "I have to believe". My personal interjections. There is nothing that goes on in this world that does not go through the superalliance filter first. I don't backpedal from anything. That is what I believe. If that is a threat to your country, that's on you.
Pure and simple, you shouldn't be validating PTO groups with an MPP, especially after your country cried to the rest of the world for help against PTO threats in the past. That is the position of this article, you are free to accept or oppose it. Mind you, though, if me writing in the Malaysian media about what I feel is a gross mistake on your government's fault, instead of criticizing the messenger, I have an even easier solution: STOP PASSING BAD LEGISLATION, AND STOP SUPPORTING PTO THUGS!
Arjay, once again a superbly written article. PTO's are wrong irregardless pf which country they are currently preying on, or have intheir sights. This problem is going to remain a problem for ALL eRepublik citizens until those citizens stand unitef to fight and stop PTO's across the board, End of conversation!
And I think it's Romanians again that invented the PTO a while ago. First to steal and destroy, then just to sign peace (see Ukraine during the last congress election).