The Northern Ireland Question
Betafoxtrot
On day 5,689, or the 18th of June this year, we were treated with a glimpse into the Northern Ireland question. This glimpse was to many seen as very overdue, and has been a topic kept alive by TRS Congressmen since.
‘The Northern Ireland question’ relates to the ambiguous status of the eUK core region, Northern Ireland. NI has been under occupation for years. This article from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs states “NI is a bit of a special case, originally a UK core but has long been managed by Ireland/3rd party by a previous and now long outdated agreement.”
Last month, during AMD’s presidency, I along with MooMooHead (then MoFA) and Mr Woldy (then Governor) held some conversations with eIreland to unpick both sides views on the region and figure out ways to make sure NI was being used in ways beneficial to all parties (chiefly, the eUK, eIreland and the third party occupying it). There were mixed results, some conversations were more constructive than others - but they weren’t without some hostility, and we were faced with the suggestion from eIreland that NI was ‘informally’ a region of Ireland. This being the result of the issue not being raised for so many years.
This of course is patently false, both in the minds of eUK citizens and eReps admins, NI is a UK core region
Despite this, countries do let other countries occupy their regions, and sometimes on a long term basis. That is why it is always important that the status of any region and the agreements that surround it (when they exist) are reinforced by the Government. Due to the long standing ‘laissez faire’ foreign affairs policy implemented before AMD’s administration, agreements and expectations around the region have dissolved, and there isn’t overt agreement on the status of NI anymore.
There’s a real danger that, as the current Government slip back into that weak mindset it will equate to the eUK losing its interest and stake in eNorthern Ireland. This is a thought that seems to be spreading to some, Keithunder, eternal PP of The Unity Party believes that we should let eIreland just have it, no questions, unconditionally and to just give up our autonomy of our own regions. TRS will always challenge these views.
Security of a nation is based on many things, good standing in the global community, strong damage output by our soldiers as well as many other factors. The eUK is not able to fulfill all of these things but that’s not to say we are unable to do it at all. One thing that is going to weaken the country is to kowtow to all demands and to let slip our own cores to a foreign occupier. This means challenging rogue Declarations of War, and not ignoring when decisions on our own regions are made without us.
We must take a stand in order to ensure our position of the World stage that we’re not a dying animal that the vultures can pluck at, but we are an active and strong community who’ll defend their territory politically as well as militarily. I invite other citizens who agree with this stance to comment below and make sure the government is held accountable to their responsibility of being strong in leadership in the realms of foreign affairs such as we have done before.
Lots of love,
Betafoxtrot
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100% agree and will make the case in Congress too o7
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I found the article quite good until I got to the last part..lol
There far to many discussions about NI and the results were the same.
This is a dying game, eUK is not a dying vulture as we had an approx. numbers of players for the last 2 years at least.
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I agree! What I meant is that if we allow other countries to just indefinitely hold our cores whilst we sit by and allow it to happen and don’t do anything about it then that’s when we’re getting picked apart like a dying animal 😛
I'm very sorry that the previous government didn't get far on this and we're reluctant to go nuclear over it
The usual lying garbage from the Spam trolls
I did not say that Ireland should have it I said that I was happy with the status quo.
I also said that the eIrish that wanted it are just as stupid as the eUKers trying to stir up this mess
This is just a nasty campaign to wreck the eUK as sour grapes because their subpar candidate lost the last election.
If you care about the eUK you should oppose this idiocy, where if we win we get nothing and if we lose we will be worse off ... stirring this pot again is a no win scenario
“ I did not say that Ireland should have it I said that I was happy with the status quo.”
At the moment the region is managed by Ireland, we have no say in the administration of the region so the status quo is to remain, but which is to say to leave the region in control of the region so I’m not sure where the lie is?
It is not occupied by eIreland so they don't have it I never said that they should have it, but then I should not expect accuracy from the likes of you. Just make stuff up just to make a sectarian point.
*Which is to say to leave the region in control of Ireland
I don't see any difference between N Ireland and other occupied regions like West Midlands. Occupation is occupation. Are you really saying we should free all regions? If not what exactly is so special about Ireland?
The difference is that the regions currently held by other countries other than Northern Ireland are here by our invitation in order to have training wars to compete in or in Scotland for the bonus it gives to factories, Northern Ireland is unique because we have no say in who can hold it and under what terms. This administration is carried out by Ireland and in my opinion, we should be in control of these decisions if they involve our own cores!
There should be room in the eUK for plurality of opinion without calling things trolling garbage 🙂
Then stop writing trolling garbage, thanks for reminding me why I blocked you. Also why can't you trollers write stuff without ,making personal attacks. Do one!
I can't see trolling garbage or personal attacks 🧐
Then you did not read the article.. typical gaslighting from a not very nice troll!
I'm not the one who messages threats to people Keith. I don't think anything written in the article misrepresents your stance - of course feel more than free to comment with what your views actually are if you feel otherwise. I don't see what all the aggro is for in honesty.
I did not threaten anyone you liar!
Go to your inbox and look at the message you sent, subject line 'wind your neck in'. If you want a reasonable convo to build some bridges then I'm all for it but getting into massive arguments in comments over who said what is a collosal waste of energy
My friend, I was in the discussions last month about the region, I am privy to a more information than those who are not involved with government and I can say as a matter of fact that we have no input to how the region is used and ran. If you think otherwise I would be highly interested in what influence we have had on the region in the past few months, let alone the past few years.
I’ll also point out stramaning your way through this interesting discussion is not a great way to make it a productive one.
*strawmaning, sorry I’ve not had enough coffee this morning 😑
You were the one lying and misrepresenting what I said. How am I expected to react to your garbage. You are not my friend so stop your patronising crap
If you feel that strongly there is a button on the first eRep page that allows you to support a RW. My guess is that the determination will make NI liberation easy.
I prefer to politic 😃
with that rank lvl i can understand why lol
Thank you Frag but I think you’ve misunderstood what politic means
nop
Ah yes, the Northern Ireland question - https://prnt.sc/RyXLQGYq23Qs
It’s always good to have a healthy discussion for all citizens to get involved with o7
Just remind us what happened the last time we had a stupid fight with eIreland!
The tell us why risking being wiped is a good idea!
The last fight was along time ago. The eworld has changed but just go back to sleep
So you do believe we should just let Ireland have it or no? Why else would you want to avoid “fighting Ireland” unless you think Ireland have control of the region?
Why do the spam trollers have to rely on lies and personal attacks? Is this a policy decision?
Your lack of engagement with the question is very telling.
So you don't mind being wiped then?
I don’t believe we are under any danger of that, we have good relations with our TW partners that Wingfield is also maintaining who would not allow a country like Ireland to wipe us. I don’t believe Ireland have the capability or support to do so and I also know having spoke to other members of their alliance that it is not functioning. So, yes I do mind being wiped but this is not the gateway for that to happen.
I have answered your question in good faith and I hope you will grant me the same and answer mine.
I don’t believe I got a reply on this in congress, would you be able to tell me when the last wipe took place?
February 2020 we negotiated an agreement which gave us our real core Great Britain regions back
Okay, firstly I would say that the military and political landscape has changed drastically in 3 and a half years, personally I feel the threat of a wipe is much lower than that of 2020.
Also, with Northern Ireland being a UK core assigned by the game, wouldn't you agree that it is classed as a real eUK core?
sounding like a real man there Keith.
it's a war game, I bet we have 'em if it goes down.
Agree in general with the discussion.
The determination must be interesting and if we can get some monetary compensation, much the better.
v + c
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NOBODY IS SAYING SHIT but when TRS posts it's all a lie and troll articles!
all of you sound depressed.
Why would i be depressed?
Maybe depressed isn't accurate, butthurt it's more like it...
butthurt about what?
to be perfectly honest with you mate, nobody is talking about your sly comments there.
I'm directly saying this to Keith, he's been super butthurt about everything TRS recently
what have i said thats sly?
You haven't said anything sly; you haven't said anything at all really.
any more questions ?
yeah here's one for you
Slua, [18/10/2023 22:59]
Yeah moo just pissed me off
Slua, [18/10/2023 23:00]
Amd tried to avoid it when I approached him
Why was the last gov so comical in their negotiations?