The NHS. Information, expenses & possible ideas to be implemented.
Sukraa
I joined on April the 12th, 2012. Now I haven't been extremely active throughout. My activity has come in bursts here and there. But as of late I have been active on a daily basis and eRep is beginning to get rather addictive. Anyway, I signed up with a really good friend of mine called Reservedd. He joined Liberty, so I followed suit. I'm glad that I did seeing as I’ve met and made friends with a whole host of Libertarians. They really are great people. Sadly Reservedd quit, but I'm still plodding along!
Now down to business. I am self sufficient and have been throughout most of my eRep life. I did sign up on the forums to some new player helping scheme of which I am very grateful for. (I can't remember the name of the scheme). But that stopped a long time ago. Now I admit I do get Q6 weapons from Max for every rank that I go up, like every other Liberty member but other than that I am self sufficient and have been since about level 10 I believe - as I'm sure many of you have been.
NHS MU
The NHS MU is a division of the British Government Army. Currently each member gets given 500 health and 5 Q6 weapons on a daily basis as long as their under level 25. The NHS have approximately 129 members under level 25 (Ish) With about 60% of those being fighters. And 50 - 60 getting supplied with equipment on a daily basis.
Money spent on weapons per day
Apologies if my workings out are wrong, my math is absolutely shocking!
First of all, there are approximately 55 (Midpoint between 50&60) members that get supplied with 5 Q6 weapons on a daily basis:
5 x 55 = 275 Q6 Weapons per day.
1x Q5 weapon = 18.89 GBP (Cheapest at the moment).
Weapons given per day in total x by the price of each weapon.
275 x 18.89 = 5194 GBP.
Money spent of food per day
(Approx) 55 active members get supplied with 500 food per day.
55 x 500 = 27,500 food given daily.
1x Q1 food = 0.25 GBP (Cheapest at the moment).
The total amount of food given daily x the price for one Q1 food.
27,500 x 0.25 = 6,875 GBP.
Total spendings per day to fund the NHS.
5194 x 6,875 = 12,069 GBP per day.
(The approximate number of active members that get supplied with both weapons and food provided by Blue and Evil).
The eUk's daily income.
In a recent article by our Prime Minister BigAnt. We were granted an insight into how much money the eUk is making on a daily basis from taxes and what not. The daily income at the moment is said to vary from 26k to 27k. Obviously this is only over a period of two days. Therefore it isn't an accurate source of data BUT it's all that we have to go by at the moment.
So let's just say for sake of argument that the daily income of the eUK is 30,000 GBP. With roughly 12,069 GBP going towards supplying the NHS with weapons and food. That's 42% (I believe) of our income going towards the NHS.
Should the NHS be scrapped?
Iv'e seen various people wanting the NHS to be scrapped completely. I do not agree with this point of view. The NHS is an asset to the UK there's no doubt about it. They may not be the strongest but they do a lot of damage and keep a lot of new players interested in the game. Therefore scrapping is not the right option in my opinion.
Should all supplies be stopped?
Yet again I do not think that this is a good idea. The reason for this is that there are a whole lot of really young players in the NHS that cannot be self sufficient as of yet. They need that help to get them through and to put them on the right path. Once they've had guidance and help money wise they will then be able to provide for themselves and help the eUk to the best of their abilities. Without any form of guidance both verbally and in the form of weapons they'll more than likely get bored and quit.
My personal opinion on what should be done.
So here is my personal opinion on what needs to be done. At the moment we cannot afford to be spending that much money on any one unit. It's just not possible. Therefore this is my proposition:
The current level range in which you remain able to receive these perks is 1–25. In my honest opinion this is way too broad. We need to narrow down this level range. By level 25 you should be well acquainted with eRepublik and you should be able to provide for yourself. If not then your doing something wrong.
So I think that the level range should be reduced too 1-15 (Doesn't have to be 1-15 as long as it's reduced really). This would cut down the amount of players that have to be handed supplies and it will make them search for a way to be self sufficient instead of leeching off others.
Another idea of mine is to slowly lower the amount that gets given per x amounts of levels that a player goes up. So you reduce the amount of food and/or weapons by certain increments as they gets stronger and more knowledgeable.
If you have 100 people who have spent their first 50 days getting everything for free with no need to provide for themselves, what in the world will they do when their supplies stop at level 25? They'll more than likely get pissed off and quit. Whereas if you slowly reduce the amount given they'll see that their losing out on items and think “Damn, I need to start finding a means to get stuff on my own before it runs out completely” then by the time they've reached the level that ensures the end of their supplies.. hopefully they will have found a way in which to successfully bring in some monaayz.
So there you go. That's my view on this whole subject. Sorry it's a massive article.. bigger than Venus William's ass & probably boring. Oh and if I've gone and fucked up my calculations, sorry. But you get the gist of it.
Numbers edited. It's now more accurate. Enjoy!
Comments
Good article, but not sure that you needed to post it twice:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-nhs-and-how-to-possibly-fix-it--2099746/1/20
Also, you should head over to the forums and try to get a job in the MoHA
Damn sorry about that I didn't realize that I'd posted it twice. The one mentioned has been removed. Thank you for the heads up!
And I'll hop on and check the MoHA out.
Thanks again.
Very good article mate, o7
Good Idea, voted
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Thank you 🙂 o7
we dont supply all 129 , some are inactive and may rejoin.
also you only supplied if you fight, so not all get daily supplies so rough number atm is 70ish that get supplied. That may help you maths.
But the fact is, this is to help KEEP these players interested and keen, dont forget this.
Just to help your numbers, we currently have between 50 and 60 active fighters getting the NHS support every day.
The reason we chose level 25 as the cut-off point is because that's when you join division 2 for fighting, so it's the official "You're no longer a baby" level. There's alot of deviation in how long it takes someone to reach level 25 however. I've seen people do it in 2 weeks and others not manage it in 2 months.
A nice read though, always good to bounce ideas around.
Voted and enjoyed the article, your really getting intothe swing of it O7
Good read, voted
The NHS is a magnet for Multi accounts, 129 fighter 60 active I guess alot of multi accounts, so the goverment is wasting money given all these multi accounts items when they first start ie we are all being ripped off ! here big time !
This is the problem working out who is real having 50% active fighters proves this, how much has The NHS given to these multi accounts ?
Excellent article imPurified! A good read and food for thought (slight pun intended). Voted and subscribed.
I'm looking forward to reading more.
lord rizla, only those 60 active players would be given supplies. The "Multi's" you speak off, would need to use the supplies they get to stay active in order to receive the items needed.
I think it should just be scrapped.
Normal MU's give out supplies because they want members as well, i don't see why we should need to ppay to give players supplies when there's other MU's out there willing to do the same out of their own pocket
The whole point of the NHS is to keep players interested in the UK. I will probably "graduate" in the next week making my total time in the NHS MU about a month.
Am I still interested in the UK, yes. Am I interested in joining one of the private MUs? If I could find one that doesn't exhibit the "F U noob" attitude so eminently documented in the comments here then maybe.
'If I could find one that doesn't exhibit the "F U noob" attitude'
No private MU is like that! I imagine all of em try to help as best they can. Information and advice is more valuable then a log-ins worth of food and a few tanks. More info and advice is in the private MU's then can ever be in the NHS MU!
Anybody got numbers of players still active and number of supplies given out? I imagine the numbers would be scary!
Most people want to play in the eUK if that's where they're from anyway i find
The NHS MU probably does give out more supplies than any other MU to new players, but that doesn't mean there aren't loads that will still give you supplies and help you out
To be honest i think almost all MU's would be happy for any new player who is active to join
Sexagenarian:
To compare the RN MU, we get 7 Q7 weapons per day (handed out at the beginning of the week) and wages that more or less enable you to buy the food you need to complete the daily order. The unit's IRC is usually busy (bed time times less so) and the established players will chuck you more food and weapons if you ask for them. We organise weekend strikes which most of our D1 people says is very useful for learning how to fight effectively.
Most private MUs are better equiped
than the NHS MU, have a more active chat channels (one complaint was that some NHS chat channels were dead - hence some of the changes) and have more flexibility and organisation. The other massive PLUS point is that it is self financing. As per this month, the NHS relies on the economy etc working in order to work.
I think one of the main problems with the NHS is the fact that personel running it basically changes with each election and where players 'graduate' then it lacks continuity.
Should the NHS be scrapped as per Wayne's comments? Well, the current structure and system is unsustainable, does some good but it inefficent and needs changing. Whether or not you keep the name "NHS" or not is sysmantics...
It is a bit like the NHS in real life - unsustainable but any attempts to change it is immediately blocked by those in the NHS who want to keep the status quo...
They are most definitely happy to Jamie, but clearly the NHS is best equipped to provide new players as it's Government funded and no other MU can use taxes to pay for it's supplies. Personally i'd like the NHS to be part of a BEF div but still receive the same treatment.
Good article imPurified! 🙂
Thank you for the kind comments everyone, much appreciated! And I'm happy to see that the article has brought forth a discussion. It's what's needed to sort this out, whilst gaining an insight into the public's opinion on the matter.
//Bows.
Oh and I shall change the numbers asap. Thanks Blue & Ant.
Being new to the game, and having managed with out joining the NHS, like previous posts have said, other MU's are happy to support D1 players.
NHS I do think is too generous, & does not encourage new players to become self sufficient. A strong country comes from strong economy. If the government invested into building a strong economy, this is longer lasting.
Is the NHS best equipped to support new players? because of government funding or because of it members?
Updated.
I liked this ...
Worthy of my subscription? Of course!
Yay! Thanks Mr.
Great article......
To further reiterate Mr Knee's point....the private MU's pay a lot better then the NHS (even to those under level 25) we'll never know if the NHS is great at getting and keeping the new because quite simply they get a huge advantage in recruitment.
if I was getting paid 5 Q6's a day I think I'd have given up a long time ago lol
I dunno. I was just struggling with the grammar. Can't make out who's for or against or what the problem actually is or even if there is a problem.
Part of the benefit of the NHS is that it gives players a chance to get some footing and figure things out. For those that stay active, this gives them the ability to assess the other options available and make an appropriate choice. This all helps with retention and general satisfaction, and that is only a plus for the UK.
@RichMan. Basically what I'm getting at is this. The NHS has it's perks but it comes at a great cost. In my opinion as things stand we cannot carry on pumping this much money into any one division. We need to find an alternative. One that brings in new players, keeps them interested and doesn't require such a high sum of cash to do so.