The Internal Division within Greece
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by Weasle
I wrote a similar article not 24 hours ago. I most likely would have left it there. Just state my opinion, give both voters and senators something to think about, and move on.
The negativity and abrupt dismissal I was met with though, makes me want to get my voice across in the most accurate and influential way possible. I'm going to say what I'm going to say, and in my opinion everything I am going to say is correct. You may disagree and that is fine.
First off people are confused with who and what I am. I am originally from America, leaving, mainly because I didn't like the political system there (the major party is basically instant win), with the disparaging war, no lie, having a side factor in my reason to leave. I came hear ranked 212(or something like that), was quickly granted citizenship status, and joined the army as soon as I possibly could.
Soon after, the process of granting citizenship status to allies was by and large denied. The idea being, if they can come here and work here, why could they possibly need to vote?
A rational and reasonable argument. With one big misstep, in my opinion. In a period of about 2 months, I've dropped from 212 to about 543. This isn't from a lack of trying. I'm level 19 and have a strength of 11. I'm a fairly strong player. These are obviously immigrants coming from outside the country, boosting the top tier(and most definitely all the other tiers) of strength in this country. Yet because they are immigrants, they aren't citizens, and I highly doubt that you have allowed non-citizens, into your army, but if you have, and on a widespread basis, let me know.
Regardless, if even one percent of immigrants decided to become citizens on a permanent, meaning they didn't leave the country for a period of lets say 6 months, to be fair, wouldn't that be better than nothing? Citizens over non-citizens equals in almost all cases more active, involved, and interested workers, fighters, and overall players. All of which is key to a growing country and economy like Greece.
If a man was half white and half black, literally. Would he tie his black or white hand back in a fight, because it was different? Would he hold himself back because his racism was more important than his self-respect and his will to win?
Will Greece allow it's racism, whether it even admits to it or not, to get in the way of its patriotism?
P.S. I'm sure someone in the comments is gonna say something stupid like, I'm just writing this to get back at someone or something, I dunno, but like I said, I just wanna get my point across, accurately, and let people far smarter than me figure it out.
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Greece is not a racist country at all.
Greece just wants to protect itself from the invasion of dangerous people.
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Yes, there are foreigners in the Greek Army Units.
Take "Elvemage" as example. Yourself too.
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You know, i am your commander in the army, but you have never shown interest to this. You have never wrote a single letter to Main Army Forces, the Organization you work for.
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All soldiers have the same avatar, only you have had a different one. You have adapted the Army's official avatar, just one day ago.
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You don't seem to care much about your country after all...
"Greece is not a racist country" There is some definite racism in a lot of players.
By foreigner I meant non-citizen. Because I'm a citizen I don't count myself as a freigner per se, but thats discretional.
Also, I asked around for the avatar and signed up for the forums, something which was never accepted. It was only by chance yesterday that I was able to find a usable link.
Weasle Greece is not a racist country. There are racist people within Greece as much as there are in USA , Canada,or where ever.
Your point of view is well respected but this is your point of view.
Since you do not understand the importance of citizenship i will not argue with you.
As i said in previous comments to your articles stop pushing.
Further more do not have the impression that Greeks are foolish.
We understand ,and we are able to see who is making propaganda and who is not. Who has what interests and who doesn't.
I would also suggest for u to be more fair with the country that showed you hospitality, respect and value.
This is to Synatlas. I'm sorry if it came off as I was saying that ENTIRE COUNTRY was racist. It's just that I feel that there are a lot more, than I have seen in any other ecountry, either on mibbit or through experience.
Your right, because I'm arguing for those who do not have citizenship, I obviously do not not understand the importance of citizenship. This makes sense... right...
As I said multiple times throughout the article, I just wanted to make my point clear. I did a couple of articles back when the institution was first established, hushed myself, and am now, given time, rejoining my efforts.
I do not have impression that US Greeks are foolish. If you want to believe this is propaganda, fine. I don't care. Also, everyone has interests, if someone tells you they don't have interests they are lying. And if you believe someone doesn't have interests, you have been fooled.
Is it not fair to question your government on an unfair treatise? Maybe I misunderstand the definition of fair.
m8 relax. Of course everybody has interests,but our main interest is the prosperity and well fair of Greece.
Allowing all foreigners enter Greece ,with all the rights , without checking their intentions and prove their loyalty is a huge mistake.
Not all foreigners have the same mentality, not the same intentions.
You can accuse as much as you like. Thats how things are ,and thats how it's going to be . We are protecting Greece, the best way we know. We are protecting our way of life , we are protecting the work that older players than u and me , have done.
Further more i have the impression that already a team of congressmen was formed for subject matter and they process citizenships.
We can disagree all day and all night long if u like m8.
But that's how things are and i personally like it.
You stated yr point of u and i stated mine
I will not relax. This means nothing to you. These immigrants mean nothing to you. They are the dirt you step on. If you really cared about the prosperity and well fair of Greece, you'd give them citizenship after a period of time (say a month) where they would have to prove themselves active and ideal contriubters in Greek society. You wouldn't turn them away, you'd let them in.
Never do I say allow all foreigners that enter Greece with all rights, I said all allies, and even then, though I didn't say it here, screening, and a test should be administered.
You are not protecting Greece, you are making it weaker, you aren't protecting your way of life, your letting everything eGreece stands for get washed away, and just because we are older(and there are immigrants older than me and you) means jack squat. The biggest nub means just as much as me and you because they all have potential, and without potential and a growing base, we have no future.
I don't know about congressman and the processing of citzenships, but I just went over it with a congressman, and there were about 9 pages of people still waiting, out of 18 which he concluded half are probably dead, and he though disagreeing with me on a lot if points, said that was to many.
Jesus Christ dude, screaming wont get u anywhere.
Look what you are doing now. Those allied immigrants who somehow lost their countries or whatever came here to Greece.
Greece is assisting them by fighting and trying to liberate their countries, Greece gave jobs , respect , life , money, to all of them , and for Greece as you said those immigrants mean nothing.
Now tell me, is that a way to support yr point of view?
And you are not making propaganda?
I stop here before u make a fool of yrself.
Not once do I use and exclamation mark to imply yelling. Now look, helping allied countries is fine and all, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE CITIZENS(YELLING NOW) THAT WANT TO BE A CITIZEN OF GREECE, THAT WANT TO BE HERE, THAT WANT!!!! TO DO MORE! Jesus, greece gave them jobs... lol... respect??? HA! money... wow, the buisnesses made a profit I'm sure, prolly a hefty one too.
For Greece these immigrants mean nothing but the production force they give.
I tried reason syntlas, but it didn't reach you, then I tried breaking down your argument into simple facts, and you accused me of yelling and being a fool.
You see what you want to see.