The Great Recession, Lanaflation, and the Great Tax Debate
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The economy has dominated the public dialogue lately, and for good reason. Things aren't like they used to be, and people don't get it. Or they think they get it, and come up with their own brilliant bad ideas. Stop yourself. We have people who know this stuff. I don't presume to tell the JCS how to run a military campaign, but I know a thing or two about economic policy. Let me break it down for you.
I bet she'd do it.
Everybody knows Lana is sucking gold out of the economy at a prodigious rate. But in economic terms, what does this mean? Lana is an admin-induced deflationary spiral, and a big one. In simpler terms, since everybody wants more gold to spend on Lana, the value of gold relative to everything else is going to increase. That's just simple supply & demand; demand for gold increases, so the price of gold increases. But no matter what, unless the admins change something, Napoleon training is still 1.8 gold. That price is fixed, so the price of everything else falls. Guns, houses, food, iron, wages. I bet you've noticed that you aren't making what you used to, and maybe you're mad.
I HAVE MANY ANGER
At a glance, it sure looks like you're making less. But take a closer look. Your nominal wage might be lower, but everything else is so cheap. Prices for many things are literally half what they were a few weeks ago. So are you really so poor? Gold "costs" more, in that you probably make less in terms of gold than you did a few weeks ago. But those $2 guns sure are nice.
What, you aren't satisfied? There is no pleasing you? Not to put too fine a point on it, but short of trying to talk everybody out of using Lana, there's no helping it. Go treat yourself to a 42 cent cheeseburger. Life is not so bad.
Mmmmm.
And onward to taxes. I've heard a lot of talk in favor of raising import taxes, or tariffs. On its face it sounds like a good idea. We can't compete on price with those nasty Finns! They're pushing our companies out of business, and robbing us blind!
I googled "Finland evil" and got this. Effing scary.
Well, no they aren't. This benefits us, and I'll tell you why (if you want a more in-depth analysis, refer to this article I wrote a little while back). The short version is that while our domestic companies would benefit, and we might make a little government revenue, our consumers on the whole would suffer due to increased prices, and this harm would outweigh the benefits. Anybody with a cent of economic knowledge can tell you that competition pushes prices down and forces efficiency. So it stands to reason that if you push those damn foreigners out of our market, our prices will rise. But this is not so bad, you say! Our wages will rise! Well yes, they will rise. But prices will rise more. I alluded to purchasing power when discussing Lana earlier, and the same principle applies. If the world average wage is $5 and the world average gun price is $2, and you're only making $3 but guns are only $1 in the US, then you're doing better here. You have more purchasing power. Why would your purchasing power fail to keep pace in a country with less trade? Because you'd be buying from less efficient companies. The reason that foreign companies sell us stuff and compete on our markets is because they can do so at a cheaper rate than us, and still make a profit. Obviously they aren't going to spend 20 gold on an export license unless they can make good use of it. They have a comparative advantage, and they take advantage of it. Likewise with raw materials; imported oil lets us make cheaper moving tickets for our consumption. And even if we're importing oil, that doesn't mean we don't also have profitable domestic oil companies shipping Texas Tea out to Broatia and Bromania.
More like taking advantage of US!
Believe it or not, there isn't a "winner" and a "loser" in the world of international trade. It's mutually beneficial. A transaction simply isn't going to take place if it doesn't benefit both sides. If I'm a Finnish gun company owner, I won't sell to the US unless I can get a better price here than in Finland; if I'm a US gun buyer, I'm not going to buy a Finnish gun unless the price is as good or better than the other ones on the market. Also, did I mention that most of those who export to us are our allies? You don't hate our allies, do you?
Just like back in Little League, there are no losers.
Speaking of things that you damn well better not hate, you don't hate our troops, do you? Our military buys guns here. Push out foreign competition and they'll pay more, which means less guns, which means less damage. And it's not just guns. If I can heal up to 50 wellness a day, why not just skip buying food, buy no gifts, have no house, and skip a battle a day to make up the loss? Well, some people (rea😛
redcoats in disguise) might do this, but most would rather stand and deliver another blow for their country. So they buy food, and have a house, and maybe use gifts. So in essence, everything sold on the market translates into damage on the battle. Raise the price of these things, and less gets sold. And less damage gets done.
So yes, raising import tariffs will endanger national security.
No, U.
While we're talking taxes, let's talk income taxes. The subject of raising these taxes has come up recently, especially within the hallowed halls *cough* of Congress. Income taxes make up the bulk of our revenue, and the vast bulk of our budget goes toward the military and national defense. The proposals to raise it have a pretty straightforward argument: more money in the government's hands turns into a larger, more powerful military. Of course, the government never wants to cut taxes...or do they? I was surprised, and frankly somewhat disturbed, to see a prominent presidential candidate suggest that we slash income taxes in half, to 10%. While everyone would like to have some extra pocket change, the blow to government revenue from this would be enormous, and as such the hit to military funding would be enormous. The research shows that the military does a far better job turning money into damage than the average citizen, who has an affinity for sitting on it and not spending it.
What we dream of. Note that it's all gold, not stuff.
*looks at the 14g and 135 USD just sitting in his account* Hey, we all do it. But when it comes to getting damage done where we need it when we need it, there's no comparison. Unlike many issues, such as the import tax issue, whether or not to raise income taxes is not a matter of good versus bad policy; it's a matter of personal view, whether you believe the citizens should pay more to support a stronger military. But cutting income taxes is frankly dangerous.
And tacky.
If you're still with me, I applaud your focus. I hope this made some sense to you. So then, you ask me, what is your solution? All these fancy ideas are nice, but how are we going to fix this situation? Our economy is dying!
We aren't the only ones suffering from Lanaflation. But, believe it or not, we aren't suffering as badly as everyone else, because we can import all that wonderful cheap stuff from across the world. If Lanaflation can't be stopped, and changing taxes won't help anything, what can we do?
Well, there isn't much to do. If you were watching, you'd have noticed that prices plummeted before wages did. But wages have taken the jump as well now. What does this mean? It means we're reaching the light at the end of the tunnel. We're nearing an equilibrium, where wages and prices match up again, and people can prosper. Gold will be worth more relative to everything else, but life will be quite liveable. The only major change is that all the numbers will be smaller. Purchasing power shall remain king.
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Look how happy that guy is. It is good to be the king!
Comments
FIRST
Jesus, a great article... I couldn't agree more.
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\o/ *covets the Q0 Balloon tank*
great article
YES! THANK YOU!
Mainstream article, with the exporter/importer being it's goal.
Is the research showing how much of government military funds are going on Lana ? Is Lana so bad ? It's strenght growth ! It's the same, for the military or for the rest of us. It's damage growth.
But for the strong player the damage GROWTH is smaller than for the younger one, because their rank will remain to marshal, it's only their strenght growing. The smaller player gets more growth at the same cost.
So, why is military good ? Because when you put that damage to WORK it's COST per damage unit will be much less for the advanced player than for the small player.
A war will COST us less when military are fighting.
To get the most damage GROWTH, fast and cheap, we need to train to the max the small player.
Taxes and prices and wages: the government tryes too much. They willingly are geting prices and wages down with the hope that we will rather spend those 5 gold we get from time to time on products, thus supporting economy and taxes. I think this has FAIL written all over it. There's no competitive advantage as a goal. It's simple a fight with our expenses trends.
The bad result of this experiment is that economy is put to the ground. The good result is that when we get the 5 gold, we will be able to buy more.
excellent article, voted HARD.
The eUSA should have the same import tarriffs as other EDEN nations.
You want a level playing field? Hey, me too! Let's give it a try!
@e-civil. You make a lot of good points, but the magnitude of your claims needs to be taken into account. If a player forgoes Q1 weapons for Lana it will take them forever to to do catch up damage wise to a player who uses Q1 weapons but not Lana. (by forever I mean well over 13 years which is how long I ran my simulation.)
There are several problems with relying heavily on Lana.
1. Gold is quite limited so very few players can pay Lana every day. The ones that do need to pay, do lots of survey's, or more likely take the gold from some other citizen. Lana for everybody is not a feasible strategy.
2. People quit this game. Even if you use weapons daily you should stop using Lana a few hundred days before you stop playing the game, otherwise you're being inefficient. That's a long time. In other words, you need to be fairly sure you'll play for an entire year so you don't end up wasting your money.
Lana promises increased strength forever, but it's a lie. People only play this game so long. She offers a vision that will never come to pass. You've been pwned by Lana.
to see me topless not see my topless...
and I was wondering when the church would come out with another article.
Dont try to use RL economics in erep. It doesnt work.
Import taxes are killing USA companies who have to decrease wages to cope and who will go bankrupt in the end and stop trading which means there will be mass unemployment in the USA, products will cost more, even imported products as the value of the USD will slide and no body will want to import. Basically you will have a situation "similar" to RL Zimbabwe with hyper inflation and a next to worthless currency.
@DeyoZero - Who said anything about a level playing field? Regardless of what the rest of EDEN does, keeping tariffs low benefits America. If the rest of EDEN wants to lose out on these benefits, that's their problem.
@12monkeys - Unemployment simply isn't a threat in this game. It takes 10 people to run a company, but far more than every 1 in 10 players wants to have a company. We simply have more companies than can be fully staffed, and always will.
YAY Church is in session!!!
I love these masses
"Our military buys guns here. Push out foreign competition and they'll pay more, which means less guns, which means less damage. And it's not just guns."
Wait, where do they get the money to buy this? (Income taxes, right?)
If wages rise, then won't there be more money available for the military to pay for more expensive guns?
As I said in the article, purchasing power would not keep up. They might have increased wages, which will lead to increased revenue, but the increase in prices will more than overcome this.
Why we should NOT lower income tax: 1% of income = 150G= the budget of the TC and HG combined. Now, for me, a skill 7 manu, to make a a significant amount more (say, 1USD), income tax would have to be 11%, thats 9% less, which is 1350 Gold. To make up for that, we would have to cut all MPPs, the TAF, all battles, the entire Interior, the V2 fund, and OMS. all that for a skill 7 to make 1 USD extra. a skill 4 would be making 0.495 USD more.
Why we should raise:
I am a skill 7 employee and I would lose 26 cents. 😮
So every two days, i would lose enough to buy a Q1 food, when prices are very low. and thats for a skill 7!
on the other hand, the government could buy 430 Q5 weapons a week
I wonder which is more important?
Also, people aren't profitable because we have like 3000 ACTIVE companies (I think we we like 10000 comps in total), and about 3000-3500 people. So every company could have 1 employee each. That means that to staff a full 10, you need to raise wages, so you become less profitable. Want to make more? either get 10 people to join the game every time you want to start a company or get people to not make any more companies
voted!
@One Eye
I know who you are. You are the evil mastermind behind this experiment. 😁 / 😉
Well, One eye, to get you more small player minded, lets say that the government is overestimating themself. I can talk to a company to DONATE me one bread and i will DONATE them the money to buy that bread. I can talk to my employer to pay me one dollar and DONATE me products for the rest of my wage. That's not so nice, isn't it ?
Happily, the game allows this. Government's tax policies is not the last of the game options. More consent is needed from us.
There will not always be enough job offers. There will always be enough companies but not job offers for the simple fact that the USA will become a wasteland in which no organization wishes to run a company. Because it is simply impossible to profit from even at base rate (1USD) wages.
" But, believe it or not, we aren't suffering as badly as everyone else, because we can import all that wonderful cheap stuff from across the world."
Damn right. While this happens some 3rd world countries stay with 99% import tax. Do you think they're smart? I don't.
Nice article, voted.