The GLD Moving Plan
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by GLD HQ
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As you may have noticed the LSD have released an [url=http://http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/hospital-for-wallonia--898101/1/20]article[/url] stating that a Q5 hospital will be ready tomorrow. They have proposed to place this Q5 hospital in the Walloon region. Now the Green Liberals do feel that the all these new citizens from the recent eBabyboom have the right to a Q5 hospital. But from both a military and financial point of view the Green Liberals have come with a better solution, namely a Moving Plan. Initially we were going to announce this program the next mandate but because the Q5 hospital is finished so quickly we will publish it already.
Move to Brussels
We understand that the people living in the Walloon region might want to stay in their region. but as mentioned earlier it is wiser from a military point of view, the cost to attack a region depends on the amount of citizens. And from a financial point of view, selling a Q5 hospital can be very profitable, and may strengthen relationships between countries. eFrance might be interested now that they are the most populated country in the New World. Don't forget, building a Q5 hospital has cost us a lot of money. And we might need some money in the near future. Our alliances are running out, renewing them will cost the eUNL 30 gold each!
The Moving Program will allow all citizens in the Walloon region to request a moving ticket, this way they can move to Brussels (or North Region) for free! Then we can sell the hospital and make our country a lot stronger from a military point of view. Please do take note, our party has nothing against the people living in Walloon, we are very glad that so many people have registered due to our babyboom. We just feel that this is the better solution to the problem! Please think this through carefully when voting in the referendum. This may be better for our country as a whole in the end!
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Yes, I think we will spare some money and make profit out selling the hospital.
The cost (and the time needed) to give all those people moving tickets will be higher than the cost of an hospital. And lazier people are not going to fight in a war if they have to request a moving ticket + move everytime there is a fight.
I am also in favor of selling the Q5 hospital. However moving people for free. Maybe when there is going to be a war yes. However now with the cease fire we should wait out the babyboom. What will happen to those new citizens! Will they die of inactivity? Or will they grow like seed?
Wait a month with forming a plan for a Q5 hospital and base the proposal on the facts that are then accurate. Atleast we know if this is really needed then.
The cost of a hospital is what, 150 gold? 100 gold? I cannot even remember, but what I do know is that you can buy a LOT of MT's with that money.
And also; how many people in Walloon are there to stay? How many fight when they can? How big is the chance an RW is started there, although it's very expensive right now because of the large number of citizens?
This stuff should be thought through better. Now the hospital is just use as a tool in the elections really.
@ CEO Trainee, They'll request the moving tickets, most players who are not interested in the game have already died out.
@ Ren Vanecx. We basicly already have the moving tickets we need. the training company UNL Moving has over 800 in stock! Now we can put these to a good use.
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@ Ren "And lazier people are not going to fight in a war if they have to request a moving ticket + move everytime there is a fight." We don't mean to give people a moving ticket every time there is a fight, just one time. I know people prefer to live in their real life region, but then the same goes for people from Flanders, East and West region. I think about the whole eUNL should move to Brussels, for a better hospital and heightening the cost for a RW war.
And helping the eBabyboomers is a good start! I'm in favor of this plan, it is cheaper then another hospital. Voted.
A discussion is also her, on our official forum : http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2415&p=25867#p25867" target="_blank">http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php[..]25867
This matter has been discussed on the forum quite extensive. There's one thing I want to react on though:
"But what is really annoying that is being said by party president of GLD that it is not thought through and that it is just a tool in the election campaign."
I take it you are able to accept the fact that someone criticizes a certain idea, right?
I quote myself here:
And it's a good thing that there is the possibility for debate. What people shouldn't forget is that we're doing politics here. LSD and BP have the majority and thus the possibility to execute plan the way they see fit. That's how it works in a democracy. However, the GLD has its ambitions too and just like every other party outside the government, we wish to increase our level of influence. The way to achieve this, is by playing an active role in the opposition and that is just what we are doing;
So, the fact that there is a majority now does not rule out the possibility of criticism towards that majority, right? Being the majority, you can always expect criticism, because everyone wants to be a part of the majority in the way they think it's the best. If we would say; ok, there's a majority now, let's stop doing what we do, the political field would become rather boring, wouldn't you agree? It's the way the game is being played and it's rather fun if you ask me 🙂 Things have always been rather harmonious in eUNL politics and that's a good thing and I do hope that can continue as long as possible, but there will always be debate and that's a good thing too. After all, we're all trying to do things as good as possible (according to our own opinions that is).
I am rather dissappointed that all this 'annoys' you. Political opponents shouldn't annoy you, they should be debated against.
I believe you are missing the point totally. I have nothing against criticism. It will improve ideas, or bad ideas will be stopped. I love the debate.
However GLD brought in that all was already decided about the hospital and that we did not think through on our idea on building a Q5 hospital. Both things are not true.
In the referendum you have your chance to bring in all you want. LSD has thought a lot about building the Q5 hospital in Wallonia, I believe our arguments are strong. Indeed there are risks (we mentioned) and maybe something else could be smarter (we discussed it, but that you could not know).
It is annoying me that GLD is putting forward that LSD does not think well over their plans and that we use are majority to push things. This does not bring in arguments against the plan, this is an attack on LSD integrity because both things are not true. That is annoying and if GLD thinks this way of debating is good than we are not improving our society, but only bickering. But it is the choice of the GLD...
"It is annoying me that GLD is putting forward that LSD does not think well over their plans and that we use are majority to push things. This does not bring in arguments against the plan, this is an attack on LSD integrity because both things are not true."
Well, we came up with both arguments against as well as an alternative. The fact that things won't go as we want is just the result of an honest voting and we accept that ofcourse.
We have stated we believed it was not well thought through, because we believe our idea is better. How is that an attack on LSD integrity? The majority is what you have, so it enables you to execute your own plans. That's how it works, but it doesn't mean we necessarily agree with the majority.
It also saddens me to read that apparently we're accused of 'not improving society', while all we do is having a different opinion which we defend with all we can. Surely you don't mean society can only be improved when people only can debate in a way you approve of?
Again you are missing the point. Even when our plan is not the best you cannot say we did not think it through. An alternative is possible, but that is something else, their is not my grief. We know there are risks, we know the price (as you did not know) what did we miss? GLD is insinuating that we did not think well enough.
Second thing is that according to GLD LSD is pushing its majority, which is, I repeat a lie.
And LSD nor me is telling to stop criticizing the LSD plan for a hospital in Wallonia. I am telling you to stop criticizing the way other parties operate.
And indeed attacks on other parties way of functioning is not improving society. Debating a plan is fruitful, but what was wrong with a referendum, what was wrong in our behaviour, where are we saying GLD stop coming with alternatives? But maybe it is GLD's way of "while all we do is having a different opinion which we defend with all we can". That all can be blaming other parties not to listen or trying to stop giving alternatives. So be it...
You have to understand that anything can be critized, be it plans, parties or persons. The fact that you actually ask me to stop doing that shows exactly how critics are being dealt with around here.
It's not 'missing the point', it's a clear difference in opinion on how politics should be practiced. Fair enough i'd say. You can state all you want about me missing the point, but we're clearly talking about different things here.
Indeed you can do anything you like. Making false images of a party, it is allowed, but not appreciated by me. That is all.