The eUK, the world, and you.
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by Glorious Failure
Hello there, people of the internet.
Over the past few days I have watched the eUK forums and media, and responses to various policy issues that have been acted upon over the past week or so. Allow me to explain.
By far the biggest issue for many of the population of the UK has been Germany. The previous administration accepted the MPP with Germany – an action that would not have been taken by the current government. Why is this the case, I hear you cry? Allow me to explain the situation.
At the time, ATLANTIS had just suffered a large defeat. Two of the most important regions in the Asian and European conflict had just been lost. Romania, once the powerhouse of that alliance decided to throw down their arms in protest at the alleged cheating going on. In amongst all this, the Swedish government at the time wanted action; they wanted Germany. Many other ideas were put on the table by ATLANTIS member states; even suggesting a path through Germany into the Netherlands, where real war could be waged. Nothing. War was declared, and Germany eventually fell.
Where did the UK fit here? Congress at the time decided to accept the MPP offered by the Germans; thus putting us directly against the Swedish army. Originally orders were to fight the Swedes. That article was deleted within the day for a replacement saying to NOT fight in that war by the previous administration. And thus the fun began. Sweden is/was one of the UK's oldest allies in this game. Yes, the acts of Kalle Holm weren't exactly nice, but surely history has to count for something? So the UK turned against the Swedes, and sided officially with the Germans; the MPP counts for something surely, we'll ignore official requests not to fight in that war. The vast majority of the ex-ATLANTIS bloc decided actual, proper, neutrality was the way forward in this conflict was the way forward. We didn't. We were wrong.
(For a better historical perspective on Germany, see Dishmcds' article -here-)
The problem with these decisions is that it didn't just anger the Swedish population. Several ex-ATLANTIS countries were also really rather displeased about all this. So much so that whispers of invasion through the now open UK – Sweden war (Activated by MPPs) by Sweden and several other countries' armed forces. This never happened; thankfully.
Our general populace fought in the majority of battles. As a general rule paratroopers did not, neither did people from other sections of the armed forces. In the last battle, we sent some paratroopers over for a bit of light tanking. This was right after the change in administration. One of them was given enough gold and guns in order to achieve field marshal rank, and do some damm good damage in the process. The other major tanking incident was to do some even more awesome damage, and hopefully win the battle for Germany. Yes, win the battle for Germany. We saw an interesting opportunity at this point; if they kept the last region, they could attack back, with the help of their MPPs. This means extra battles for the population of the country. I know what you guys are like, we tell you not to fight somewhere, with a wink and a nudge, and you'll fight there. More wellness for all, a better fighting population, and chances are Sweden still coming out victorious. Free training battles guys!
I see outrage over an apology to the Polish; would you not be annoyed if we invaded a country, and one of our old allies fought against us? A small feeling of betrayal, yes?
The general populace appears to want the UK to police the world, always fighting against the large and benefiting the poor; a Robin Hood-esque figure in the international community if you will.
No.
The UK is not a big enough, strong enough, powerful enough, or rich enough to serve that role. To use an animal metaphor, imagine Indonesia and Romania, or any other military powerhouse for that matter at their prime were bears in a wood. Compared to that the UK is a little wolf right now. If that little wolf irritates the bigger animals it can quite easily be eaten. Nom nom nom nom. Helping small nations, whilst a noble goal, is simply a bad idea in many cases. Going against very long term allies in the process? It's just downright silly.
I'd love to help all these little countries; really, I would. In an ideal world we'd be able too. But we can't. It's not a case of not wanting too, it's not being able too. Sorry. Maybe if people stopped complaining constantly, and actually did something we'd be in a better place right now. I cannot lay the current problems all on the previous administration. No. I blame you, the public. It's so very easy to sit there in your comfort, doing your 2 clicks a day and criticise those who work harder than you. Trust me, I've been there. Stop saying, start doing, people.
Glorious_Failure
Minister of Foreign affairs, UK.
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pertamaxxx
Very good article, and i agree with so much you say. I do not wish to be a "2 clicks a day person" but being new to the game this is all i'm able to do at this stage, and feel frustrated by this.
A second point is more a question to people reading this article, or you the writer. Is there an article on a Brief History of the eRepublik and the eUK to this day, if so could you notify me of it.
Thanks if you can help.
And also thank you for a well wrote article.
Good article
SamGibz join the forums at http://www.forums.erepublik.co.uk" target="_blank">www.forums.erepublik.co.uk And GF, Sweden decided to attack Germany because their leader was a 10 year old boy writing a promotional article for a magazine, simple as. That's why people were so annoyed and wanted to fight for Germany, many wanted to sign the German MPP back in January(or was it February?) But it got shouted down, and then we changed our minds again and wanted to be allies with them.
Misses the point. No one wants the eUK to police the world. That is not a good argument. I think most people simply found the Swedish approach and their "compromise" utterly unacceptable. That is why anti-Swedish sentiment was so high.
>>No one wants the eUK to police the world.
Then why do I see constant tirades against imperialism, and people saying that the UK should do everything to stop it?
>>They are against imperialism
You could've stopped there 🙂
In general, I think Realpolitik describes most things in the game perfectly, this included.
"Then why do I see constant tirades against imperialism, and people saying that the UK should do everything to stop it?"
Because we have MPPs with the people being invaded?
If it is Realpolitik then we should join PEACE and not trying to reestablish relations with ex-ATLANTIS states.
Konrad you will be nothing? Sometimes with Poland, Romania sometimes with Hungary, Indonesia. Who would trust your country if you want change side when allies start loosing?
You must start fighting with allies if you want change mind eWorld citizen about your country. Now most of Poles think: UK is useless. They're doing nothink for allies(yes i know, now we aren't, but some month two month ago what did you for Romania when they're need help?) and in eWorld thinking that same other nation (Oh maybe without USA and Canada)
It was nice when i see british BH on battle for Brandenburg. We remember it, but if you will having our trust you must doing some else.
This is some words from Poland 🙂 sry for bad english 🙂
And now u can say"Damn stupid Pollack, get your .. etc" 😁
brilliant article 🙂
"The UK is not a big enough, strong enough, powerful enough, or rich enough to serve that role. To use an animal metaphor, imagine Indonesia and Romania, or any other military powerhouse for that matter at their prime were bears in a wood. Compared to that the UK is a little wolf right now. If that little wolf irritates the bigger animals it can quite easily be eaten. Nom nom nom nom."
All of this is subjective. Every single last bit. We've never been put through a test before, you're going off MPP wars which don't show to the general population and think that they are a proper show of our strength, we have enough money to live a comfortable life and more than enough power to keep all but the mightiest out of our doors. As well as a secret RL Government grant.
Do you even know wtf is going on in your own head GF?
First the MPP with Germany is bad because it pissed our allies off, but the situation was somewhat saved by our army not taking part.
Then when you get in power it is suddenly ok to to send TANKS over there to help win battles.
Finally you apologize to Poland for the MPP and sending tanks.
You changed your mind twice in this article alone...
"if one of our OLD allies fought against us"
old hmm this mean we're not allies which means we have every right to fight agaist them
@Goku Jones
I like your style
same, the government is changing it's mind a lot
GF is kicking people from IRC for asking simple questions about this. He is a great admin.
i think i am starting to understand now, whan a country we have agreed to defend is attacked, we should do nothing. yes that makes a lot of sense and shows just how trustworthy we are.
If the govt can't back the people then the govt or PM should be replaced, like tony blair was. The people wanted swedish blood, and the swedish to stop invading, the government should NOT counter what its people want, otherwise its no longer a democracy. However there is a way to change all that 🙂.
pertamaxxxx..... climaxxxxxx
Maybe we ust need to be an example to others, lead the way for the right and let people see what we are doing is the right thing, maybe this way America can join or another huge power, not fighting to take land but to give back, yes Robin hood style.
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Lord
This game is about war.
It is not about peace.
It is about war.
If there is no war the economy collapses.
Get it?
War.
So if you had your way and everyone got their land back what would we do then?
The wars, the TO's and the alliances are the glue of this game.
OK, this game is about war.
How about eUK have war with eSweden and ePoland in an effort to liberate eGermany.
War is a big part of the game but it is also something else. The game is called eRepublik and not eWar.
If it was called eRainbows it would still not change the fact that it is about war.
Came to the game right in the middle of all the 'do we go to war or not' talk, which was pretty heated. However, one thing is clear. If you ally with someone, you fight for them. Its part of the eUKs angst, and part of the RL UK history. It goes deep. Accept it, that's what we do, orders or not. However, I will accept that this was the last administrations mistake.
However, your mistake is thinking we are only 'wolves' against 'bears'. Question: if they keep fighting, and we keep refusing to, how do we become bears?
Finally, you're charge of 'two clicks a day'... if you're in power, you're in power. Rights, responsibilities, power are yours. However, knocking the 'little man' in such a way is demeaning and cheap. Also, if we do our 'two clicks' that builds our strength up, which at the moment is all we are able to do. Unless there's some magic in the game mechanics that hasn't been disseminated? Or do you prefer just to antagonize the people you will one day need, whether we're ready or not?
eUK should pull itself together, and play a larger part in eworld. You are the 5th biggest country currently, and do virtually nothing. Just a humble hungarian opinion. (Same goes for eUSA, eSpain etc. That is the real reason ATLANTIS fell. Romania had to fight us and Indonesia, virtually alone. Of course, game mechanism is against true conflict either. MPPs should be removed as they are...)
A great rebuttal to this article.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/britain-and-germany-829322/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/brit[..]/1/20
Whilst I think this is a thoroughly unpleasent stance to take, I applaud the current government for explaining what it's doing rather than keeping schtum like Sara's cringeworthily arrogant last administration after surely the most dramatic flip-flop in ehistory.