The Embarrassment of the Irish State Industries
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by King Connell
Hi Everyone,
Over the last two days I did a bit of research into the Irish state Industries to just see how they're being run and if it would be possible to increase their efficiency. I was expecting to find some well managed and cleverly run companies, but instead what I found was an incredible tale of the most grievous negligence and the wasting of Taxpayers and the Governments money.
This article is a roundup of two recent posts on the forum, but I felt I should also make it into an article so that all of eIreland would get a chance to see it.
Public Production Companies
The greater plan for our public companies is somewhat obscure, but what I found was a completely aimless exercise and a needless cost to the taxpayer.
Our Irish state housing company is the second most inefficiently run company(with too many workers) in the whole of eIreland. Max productivity in a Construction company is at 20 workers whereas our company currently has 35 people in it, many of which are dead! There is no end in sight either, as there is an incredible 96 more jobs available for lvl 0 skilled workers. There is no excuse for this extreme negligence as it would literally take less than 30 seconds to increase the workers productivity by 50% and you don't need to be business minded to realise that's a heck of a lot!
Our hospital company only fares a bit better with 4 workers below max productivity, but strangely enough there are no job offers and so it will continue to run below the optimum productivity levels.
Our citizens deserve better than this and it's not fair on the regions without a q5 hospital that it's production should be delayed by the governments negligence.
Finally we have the Land training company which is suffering from the same problem of having too many workers in it, this company however also has dead citizens in it. Meaning that the amount of work to rectify this would take a matter of seconds.
Raw Material Companies
The gov recently decided to run an initiative to buy Raw Materials(RM) from privately owned Irish companies. I thought this was odd as we have state RM companies in different countries with High resource regions.
So I took a look at the world prices for the RM's and the prices of the RM's in the same countries as our state RM companies. The results were baffling!
In every case companies in the same country as our own State companies were producing RMs for some of the cheapest prices in the eWorld! Yet why then did we have to look to private companies?!!
The fact of the matter is, if those companies can produce goods at that price we should technically be able to produce the goods for at least the same price or even a little less. Our companies are non-profit so technically we should be cheaper. So firstly the RM initiative is going to cost the Gov more than producing the RM ourselves.
We have the tools but are just not using them.
A company by company summary;
Woo😛
The Cheapest wood in the eWorld is in the place where our company is, yet we only have 5 workers there right now...
Iron:
Some of the cheapest Iron in the eWorld is in the place where our company is, yet we can't even get a single worker in our company.
Oil:
Some of the cheapest Oil in the eWorld is in the place where our company is, yet we cannot produce any there with zero workers?!
Diamonds:
The 4th cheapest price for Diamonds in the eWorld is in the place where our company is, but yet again we cannot even get a single worker?
This is not a matter of not being able to get employees, as every other company can do it in the same countries for some of the cheapest prices in the eWorld. This just comes down to lazy management!
Although the idea of giving private contracts would be a good one if it was necessary, I have shown the only thing that is needed is the Minister of Industry to do his job.
There is absolutely no reason why our companies cannot be as efficient as the others in the same country and those companies are some of the most efficient in the whole eWorld.
Summary
At the start of the presidential term I offered my services to the MoIndustry Dylanb, but in response he said he didn't think he would need any help. It is obvious to me and anyone who has ever run a business in erepublik that there are huge failings in the ministry right now.
Either the president's selected minister does not know how to run the companies or is simply not bothered. The main point is that we are currently wasting the governments and taxpayers money and effecting the wellness of our citizens not in q5 regions with these needless inefficiencies and these problems need to rectified immediately!
Personally I think it's a disgrace that the current administration would allow such a waste of taxpayers money and one thing is for sure is that answers need to be given, lessons need to be learned and changes need to be made...
Cheers,
Connell Rath
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Sure it's all a bit o' craic. doi de doi.
Trade embargos aren't the issue, I think he is talking about management.
He just said they have the cheapest RM's and can export to the US.
Why not ask private companies to train staff ? 80% of new citizens give up anyway and company managers would have an interest to maintain activity and name a tutor in the company.
Just an idea.
Nice. Good analysis, Though Dylan did just start in the Position, Maybe JSK should be the blame, that being said, Dylan should have rectified this.
Dylan was the deputy minister last term aswell and I was the Junior.
Although I had no access to any of the companies and got no work to do the whole term. 🙁
It seems as though this dept. has just been a place to get titles of late...
1. The housing company is to give noobies steady construction sector job opportunities.
2. The hospital company was running at 20 workers yesterday, my internet went down for a while and the MoF decided it was in the national interest to lower wages, thus people left, not my fault.
3. Would you not have guessed the company named *Land training company* was for giving noobies job opportunities in the land sector?!?!
Dylanb you're displaying a clear lack of company knowledge with that response and ignoring some obvious facts, which everyone else can see.
Why on earth would you let the Housing company get such a ridiculous amount of workers? Fair enough if they had nowhere else to go, but a lot of them are DEAD!! And there is absolutely no excuse for that.
You also have ignored the second part of the article referring to the Raw Materials.
Rath,
what does it cost to keep "😉EAD" workers on. and it keeps prodititiy up (spelt wrong) unless it gets above a certin level, which makes houses go quicker, we made Q1 house every week or so last month with noobs, and if the Dail had made up their mind we could of sold them.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ,
The housing company is NOT run in order to create a profit it is run to PROVIDE jobs and that is what it does, do you want a country with 90%+ of manufacturing workers?!
As for the RM bit, the companies with no workers are so because we have a large stockpile of that resource already and there would be no need to produce more of it at this time, the wood company, like the hospital company is also subject to cutbacks by the MoF so of course it is hard to keep the current workers and attract new ones with low wages!
Connell you are displaying a clear lack of common sense
Dylan Tell me this, if the MoF told you that you to cut back on resources. Then why in heavens name would they have launched a new initiative to contract RM from private companies? The facts do not match up Dylan.
+ JSK It's currently costing a heck of a lot to keep the Dead workers on! If you fired them, you would increase productivity by a whole 50% for no extra cost!
I'm actually shocked and amazed that the current and previous Ministers of Industry would not realise these simple facts...
And Dylan the 25 people who voted this article in the last hour are the people with the common sense.
Its easy enough to sack dead citizens, and keeping them on has only negative consequences (reducing productivity)
"Rath,
what does it cost to keep "😉EAD" workers on. and it keeps prodititiy up (spelt wrong) unless it gets above a certin level,"
He clearly pointed out that they are well above the desired level >.<
I motion to impeach Dylan not only because he is incompetent but because he is an Asinus.
@ginge
>prodititiy
>incompetent
oh dear.
@connell
That initiative was largely done without my consultation and I recently received word from the MoF to not buy any RM's from the private sector for the time being.
RM companies should be run at a profit. Produce cheap RM for our domestic companies, and sell any excess so that the RM company can be self-supporting, rather than a gold drain. Any excess profit could be kept in the company to boost worker wellness through gifting, or returned to the government for increased social spending.
Dylan the initiative refers to the RM companies production and has nothing to do with you buying from the private market...
...
Have you even ever run a company before this?
It's crazy, way worse than I first thought and a complete joke!!!
Emmmm Dylan, It was JSK who said Proditity thus the Quotation marks, unless you meant something else?
"@ginge
>prodititiy
>incompetent
oh dear."
Considering Mr. Ginge was quoting JSK on the Proditity, I think you need to look before posting
Why isn't someone like Kol MoI?
Connell the initiative has everything to do with the private market as that initiative would see the MoI buying RM's from private contractors, based upon whoever can offer the best price, how you fail to understand that I do not know.
Yeah I read quote wrong, so kill me 😛
I would have prefered an experience Business Owner as MoI like Talfryn pointed out, Kolshire would be one of the best in my opinion.
Also Dylan, I wouldn't do everything by yourself you should had really accepted Connell's help you can't do well in a Ministry without a Deputy there to help you. You should had really sacked the dead workers they will never give you full productivy if there dead.
Ian, check the companies ...there are no dead workers and I do in fact have a deputy, JSK.
Oh really? have a quick look at the State Housing Company and Irish State Iron Land Training you see workers that are inactive? they are soon to be dead.. I would sack an employee after 5 days of inactivity because most newbies leave at that stage.
Yeah, really there are no dead workers, as for the inactive ones there's no point in sacking them atm as that would decrease overall productivity and we don't want that now do we?
Personally, I don't blame Dylan for any of this, It happened before him and he just took over the reigns thinking everything was all good once they were making Iron etc, He prolly now knows that this is not so, Tbh, I blame JSK, He was there before Dylan (Even if Dylan was Deputy). A more experienced business owner would of been a better choice, but then again it was Patton who picked the ministers do not surprised there.
And Dylan, Having any employee over 10 decreases productivity, They're called Zombies, They're good all the way up till 10 but after that its better to fire them than keep em.
Oj ofc I know that, check for yourself there are no companies with over 10 with zombies >.>
Good God Connell! I thought you were a decent guy but after reading this I might have to revise that! You nearly blinded me with that bloody small writing! Maybe you thought by writing that small, people wouldn't read it and just assume you're right.
Cop on and write bigger in future! 🙂
Give them to me, il make them productive
Sorry Ian your mistaken there too.
An employer to make sure he's getting the most productivity for the wage must try and keep the optimum amount of workers in his companies at all times.
So In a Manufacturing or Land company you should always try and have 10 people in it at all times, it doesn't matter if they're alive or dead. In a Construction company 20 employees is the optimum level and for some reason someone just fired 24 people out of the state housing company! 😮
I can't believe it, they should have just left it at 20, productivity will have increase a small amount, but now it's going to be harder for the state to get back to optimum productivity again...
It's incredible.
@Dylan I understand the initiative perfectly.
The problem with the initiative is that it will end up costing us more money than if you had been doing the job you were supposed to.
And btw one of the MoF is claiming that you were not told to get rid of any workers in the RM companies.
lol Sorry Mr. Gormley 😛
I'll do so in the future in the mean time if you hold ctrl and the push the scroll wheel(on the mouse) forward you can zoom into the webpage. Otherwise hold ctrl and press "+"
Thanks. I probably should have made a comment on the actual article content, but I got sidetracked by my temporary blindness! lol
How is it gonna cost us more money? Show me figures please.
As for doing my job, I am doing my job ..simple as that.
I'm the MoI, the MoI manages industry, the MoF manages finance, I do not need MoF approval to get rid of workers... And in the cases where I did I actually sought pattons approval before hand and he gave it.
If you read the article you should be able to understand.
But i'll go again if you really want me to!
In every place where we have our RM companies there are companies offering some of the cheapest prices in the eWorld. The initiative was to subsidise this production, where as I proved that we could offer some of the cheapest prices with our own RM companies(or even less because we'd cut out the profit)
I as MoF started the MoI buying from irish owned companies at home/overseas simply because the cost to produce ourselves was simply more than market prices being offered, it doesn't take a genius to work out something is wrong, the MoI should have spotted this himself, its a stop gap measure till we get it sorted.
Our Overseas raw Material Companies should be run at a profit, Producing cheap RM for our state companies, and selling any excess above agreed reserves so that the RM company can be self-supporting, rather than a gold drain each month.
All these issues will be addressed at a Meeting of Ministers on the IRC tomorrow night, where clear and concise goals/guidelines will be issued to all concerned by the MoF, and would remind the MoI that it is the MoF Dept that provides funds for his Dept, and it will not be providing an endless supply of money to a dept that is not being run properly in its opinion.
Details and blame aside, it's good to see that things can be improved, that steps are being taken to improve things and that someone cares enough to go poking around to find out what needs sorting. Let's leave the recriminations out of this- at least until the people in charge have a day or two to get everything in order.
The article will serve some good as long as we don't use it as an excuse to tear each other down, or to go jumping to knee jerk reactions.
Personally I find it hilarious that Dylan has now sacked all zombies in the state housing company leaving it witth less than the optimum number of workers.
This begs the question, has our MoI ever managed a company before?
I would assume that is a basic requirement for the job.
"Our Overseas raw Material Companies should be run at a profit, Producing cheap RM for our state companies, and selling any excess above agreed reserves so that the RM company can be self-supporting, rather than a gold drain each month."
Yep.
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While I agree that the companies should be run better, you make a couple comments that are uncalled for.
-You complain on having more then 20 workers in training companies. Dylan is right here and it would be nonsensical to have a limit of workers to train..
-Your comments on the RM scheme. From what I know of it, one of the main points was to help eIrish Citizens with RM companies. Even if you were right and this caused us to run at a slight loss, I think it still would be a good idea. I mean, is a government doing something to help it citizens really that crazy? I don't know about you, but I'd rather see our government try to look out for us then to try to make the most money.
Try to double-check your information before you right the next accusatory article but it's good to see someone checking up on the ministries.
@Hook
I understand that some of the companies are there for noobs just to have jobs, but the problem in this case was that a lot of the employees were DEAD! That was the problem, if there were 34 alive players there would have been fine.
The initiative was only setup in case we ever found ourselves in a position where it would be cheaper for us to buy RM on the private market. Although it was made so that Irish owned RM companies would be the only benefactors, this was not the main objective of the plan.
http://ieforums.hobbittown.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=2283" target="_blank">http://ieforums.hobbittown.com/default.a[..]2283
You can figure find that out on the thread above.
Cheers for the comment though.
Ginge, I did not fire those employees and yes I have run two companies before and worked in the MoI as a deputy before also
" A LAZY WORKER IS MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN A DEAD ONE" we need to cleanup the companies!
I do love justice 🙂 Great article + 1
"The housing company is NOT run in order to create a profit it is run to PROVIDE jobs and that is what it does, do you want a country with 90%+ of manufacturing workers?!"
No offense, but that cannot possible be meant to be a serious response! You can provide jobs WITHOUT wasting tax payers money.
Also: eIreland has a raw materials training company? Why the hell would eIreland want to have a raw materials training company??? eIreland doesnt have high ressources...you are running a newbie trap!!
@Nanook Capital
Yes, I could perhaps, if the dail ever figured out what it wants to do with the houses it produces, as for the raw mat company it was created by the dail to provide diversification of the Irish workforce, we don't currently have a High region but we have Med Iron and in V2 admins said that medium regions will be of some value ...we will have to wait and see.
Hey Dylan, thanks for the response.
I also heard the rumours about medium regions being worth "something", but i think this is an eIreland-only rumour that someone has spread because i havent heard it anywhere else in the eWorld.....so dont count on it.
And med-grain is as good as useless 🙁
Moo and patton just sent around a PM about huge budget changes. I think it's obvious they didn't know about the budget situation until just recently and are trying to fix it ASAP.
Thus, your accusation about the president not caring is implausible.
I do think it is a problem, though. And I'm not finance-savvy enough to comment on anything specific...but from what has been said in the posts here, it sounds like it's not entirely Dylanb's fault.
But the Princess doesn't own Princess Industries anymore, so....
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While this is disturbing, it makes me wonder how much people care about Ireland that are in office? Ireland can be a much better country for all if we get things into order. If people want to help and they know what they are doing put your egos aside and let them help.
Now that the problem areas have been identified, its up to those in the position to fix this to do so, and this will be done in the coming days, a meeting is planned on the IRC tonight for all those involved in running goverment companies and after this they should all have a clearer idea of what is expected from each of them.
I myself will also be spending more time with the State companies and less with Finance for the remainder of this term to try and achieve this before the end of term, additional experienced Company GM's may be drafted in to run the Raw Material arm which is lying idle at present.
I thank everyone for there comments and can assure you all that this problem is being addressed.
''additional experienced Company GM's may be drafted in to run the Raw Material arm which is lying idle at present.''
It is lying idle after the MoF decided to cut costs and now I can't attract workers.
you know what is run efficiently Labour party companies
think about it