The eBE situation
Day 2,284, 05:55
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by Kordak
Dear citizens and friends,
Yesterday I have launched an Natural Enemy law at the Belgium, which is currently being voted in our democratic congress. There are many reasons for us to launch this NE and that is why I wrote this article to make some things clear.
It all started a few weeks ago with some Belgium expats who were trying to involve the Netherlands in their internal situation. Some people like Konrad were abusing their special status within the Netherlands to constantly defend Belgium at our national forum. The situation cooled down again and things looked normal until it started again. This time a Belgium official MoFA/MoD Valeyard started to talk with other nations including Poland about us and started to put us in a negative light. The proof of this provocation towards us is in the hands of deputy chairman of the congress MaartenW.
This was not the first time the Valeyard tried to keep us away from an alliance, several months ago he was one of the people that tried to keep us out of CoT, while we wanted to work together with Belgium. At that time I was in Belgium myself to support our two nations working together closer. Also it is known that the Valeyard was a strong supporter of the "keep NL wiped by Poland movement" toegether with NLSP. One of the first insults Belgium made to us was when they appointed the Valeyard as our ambassador just after he spread lies in South Africa that we were going to PTO them. From that moment the relation between NL and BE were never really good again.
The government of Belgium claims they are protecting their country from an PTO, but in the meanwhile they slowly turned Belgium more and more in a undemocratic state ruled by an forum elite. They took the money from the state, they discriminate entire parts of the community and they are selling out their regions without any form of democratic decision.
As President I saw it as my responsibility to find a solution to this situation at the start so I had contact with the Valeyard. However he did not want to listen to anything I said and was not even willing to solve the situation.
The insults and backstabbing Belgium did are not the only reasons for going to war. It was the desire
We will wait and see what the democratic congress of the Netherlands will decide!
Long live the Netherlands!
President Kordak
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It was the desire of BG indeed. The #7 Party of eNL. Not the desire or all people in eNL.
We are a war party. I actually wish there were more like us hehe, but sadly I don't think that's the case.
"This was not the first time the Valeyard tried to keep us away from an alliance, several months ago he was one of the people that tried to keep us out of CoT, while we wanted to work together with Belgium. At that time I was in Belgium myself to support our two nations working together closer. Also it is known that the Valeyard was a strong supporter of the "keep NL wiped by Poland movement""
Uhm that was NLSP not me, get your facts straight please 😉
let me say for the record that it was way better phrased then "keep NL wiped by Poland movement" 😁
like our CP says: toegether with NLSP.
😉 your CP changed his text after the comments from The Valeyard and me
😉 as founding member of the 'Keep eNL Polish'-movement, I find it unacceptable that it is implied that there was anyone whose level of engagement and support in the movement came close to mine. I have been unanimously been choses as 'Most Motivated Member' for each month since the 'Keep eNL Polish'-movement has been founded!
😉 as elected spokesperson for the movement AND as the issuer of the membership cards, I have to confirm that The Valeyard NEVER was a member or registered sympathies from the 'Keep eNL Polish'-movement
😉 as head of the research group of the 'Keep eNL Polish'-movement, I have to say that The Valeyard has in fact fought, in accordance with eNL orders, for eNL against Poland on numerous occasions, making him ineligible for any role of importance from our respected movement.
Read about the other side of the story here:
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This reply on The Valeyard's comment, is unrelated with the comment of The Valeyard.
Furthermore, you have posted these links already earlier as a comment to this article.
You might want to add that possible proof for the provocation of eBE in a NL-PL conversation is being held confident by van Spijck.
I'm not a CM by the way.
Talks between the Netherlands and Poland are confidential. The Valeyard has nothing to do with it and should not hold that information, so he was not judging with that info.
Funny seeing Polish MoFA (who has been replaced I might add 😛) seems to have shared a log with eNL but that is ok it seems? 😉
MaartenW and Valeyar😛 stop your lies. The talks between NL and PL were about the new alliance, and the name valeyard wasn't even mentioned. Nor has the PL MoFA shared a log with NL.
Valeyard, may i add that these 'logs' are about the alliance, which have been talked about longer than after the Polish MoFA is replaced, and ofcourse MdR has these logs, he was there when they talked about it, dont act stupid please.
It is a sour situation.
wow so many untruths and twists in this article.
you've learned a lot from your boss it seems....
"Some people like Konrad were abusing their special status within the Netherlands to constantly defend Belgium at our national forum."
In other words, no freedom of speech.
There is freedom of speech, but you got that status as an honor to stay involved with our politics. Not supposed to go defending the nation you moved to.
The purpose of expat is to express your ideas and it is clear that you, van Spjick, and Legendarisch cannot handle it. It is either we agree with you 100 percent or you are "abusing your status" etc. It is clear that you have no idea on what it means to have free speech and basic democratic ideals.
I'm sorry, Konrad, but it was very clear you were using those expat rights to act as a proxy for the eBE gov. The expat status is in no way intended for things like that.
I agree with RDRDM.
You might think that but most people in eNL does not. In the end it was an opinion it is clear you cannot handle it. For what did I say that was so damning? Saying that any military action against eBE is unwelcomed, and saying vS's support for the PTOers is abuse to justify war? There is something rotten in the core of eNL politics if people really think it is...
Konrad, you lost your expat status on reasons i find reasonable, so dont whine, you called it upon yourself.
What opinion? "Your invasion at this time, is UNWELCOMED."
Also, with the right of free speech, comes the obligation to respect others. You were abusive towards eNL congress in other posts and you have been warned for that.
Go home, Konrad.
So in other words, if you like the comment/ opinion it is ok. But since I said ti is unwelcomed ( which is a opinion/ position/ view point) then it is not free speech and I should go home. Thanks for the clarity.
I'm open to your *personal* opinion. I don't need you to relay your *government's* stance in eNL congress. You were acting as proxy for your gov.
You just don't get it, how sad konrad, you abused your Expat Position, the consequence is loosing it, and please stop lying people did not like that, they supported the decision, keep going on, and i make it a permanent removal.
How is it wrong for him to voice his opinion? That would hardly constitute abuse.
Konrad being kicked out by another country again... how classic
DimlightHero, really? Are you having trouble as well seeing the difference between a personal opinion and communicating on behalf of a government?
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Lol, hier onze konrad ... de beul van dienst die de ene na de andere verbannen kreeg op het Belgische forum. 🙂 Jij gaat spreken over vrije mening??? LOL!
could give me a list of all people that got banned and tell me who of them are done due to Konrad?
The list pretty short (well it is going to be quite empty 😁 )
When did you unban them NLSP? Didd you unban them before or after you erased their posts?
The only banned is shadowukcs. You are welcome on erepbelgium.com and even if that's traumatizing you have to get over it 😛 You, are, welcome (stel u voor!)
I haven't erased anyone's post and I haven't unbanned anyone either.
Would be rather hard, since I have no access to the admin panel 😉
And about the PTO on South Africa. He only leaked the truth. That's something different than lying. It was another sick plan of the Dutch government, just like this situation.
There was no plan to do it and as congressmen you know that 🙂
Quote of vS/MdR from the debate 'PTO'ing a (pro) TWO/ACT country' : 'A very good, and not so hard, option would be eSouth-Africa' See: http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=134&t=11723&p=152991
"Only if we really don't see any more future for eNL." Besides of that it would be to support the native people of South Africa. But it never happend and was not even discussed futher.
😁 wasnt part of the proposal.
Sure it was. "... and together we could take over power in Congress, and later the government." (referring to the SA natives) Right there in the first post. See it?
I read it as taking over eSA.
You read everything in a negative light when it concerns MdR. You've lost all objectivity a long time ago.
But it seems I am not the only one with 'complaints' against the MdR/vS. Yeah, it must be me.
And what precisely where these expats defending Belgium against? I agree, this is full of untruths and twists, and it is taking the word of an opposition group that has been using dirty tactics to try to grab power for two years and still has not been able to win it by democratic means, so now they are running to eNL and eUK and trying to gain support by spreading their lies.
The expat status is given to people who want to stay in touch with eNL Politics and to re-integrate easily, Konrad abused this by representing the eBelgian Government in the congress sections, which is frowned upon.
this should be managed with the Belgian CP, not through an attack to eBe.
or through the Belgian MoFA
What, expat is a dutch status for former dutch citizens, as MoHA i can give and take at will, no need to attack eBelgium or talk with the eBelgian CP and MoFA, it seems you don't understand it however so.
sure, i agree that you can expel konrad from your forum.
but i don't understand why you attacked belgium because of this.