The Death of True Socialism
Day 540, 14:55
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Published in Ireland 
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by Sean Greene
In his recent manifesto for the PP of the ISRP, current PP Starks Hayter announced himself as a "socialist Party President".
It is my opinion that a "socialist" party president would actually pursue a socialist ideology. I realize that by now my words are worthless in turning aside the inevitability of this election, but ISRP take hee
😛Starks is no socialist.
What socialist would be apologetic for speaking out in favor of socialist ideas, even if they go against the views of the larger party? What socialist leader would draft legislation that would lower the wages of our unskilled workers? Under Starks, the ISRP has become the IUP Jr. Whenever someone speaks out of the fact that we are surrendering our will to the larger party, they are hushed up by not only Severin, the PP of the IUP, but Starks, the PP of the ISRP. Jointly they convince anyone with an original though that the public does not deserve to know about it. They keep it in the smoke-filled back rooms, or maybe they just shove it aside.
Do you need proof? How about Severin declaring "Public outcrys start nothing but heated irrational feuds" and Starks' immediate agreement? Since when does the public not have a voice? Since when is it only the top tier of Irish politicians who get to make decisions? No, no there is no reason for public outcrys, you should all just sit quietly and let the big boys handle things. Don't worry, just trust that they have your best interests in mind.
I ask you ISRP, what will be our campaign slogan for future elections? "Vote ISRP, we'll follow the IUP's orders"? Or perhaps "Vote ISRP, we'll never make a counterargument to an IUP proposal"? Of course we could always go for brevity: "Vote IUP Jr."
The age of the ISRP being the predominant opposition party in Irish politics is over. We're nothing more than a rubber stamp to pass the IUP's centrist and, at time, rightists policies. There is no longer a place in Ireland for true socialists, and we are the more pitiful for that. We socialists made this country what it is today and in reward, we're shoved to the fringes as our "leaders" undue our work under the false pretense that they are the voice of Ireland, not the people.
I hope Theus Jackus wins the PP of the ISRP as I think he is the last hope in reversing the ISRP's progression to the center, but I don't expect it. Our current leadership had duped too many of our party members.
I still respect Starks as an eIrishman and a politician, but we no longer share the same ideals. I realize that I am likely burning bridges here, but I've tried for weeks to stem this tide and thus far my efforts have been in vain. In a last ditch effort to save Irish socialism, I implore ISRP members to vote for Theus Jackus when the time comes.
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No one knows what the ICF is Mannimarco..
Irish Communist something
You will be the main enemy of the Freeman's Party of Ireland Manni
The dawn comes. Be not afraid Ireland, for your salvation is at hand.
It has Irish and Communist in it
I am sure
Jerek, It has Irish in it, but not communist.
Basically the ICP or ICF or whatever piece of monkey trash party it is is a psuedo-communist party created ''for the lulz'' as Mannimarco stated on IRC, it will be ''created'' by TOing FF, the party I'm in, a candidate I'm supporting, bunnieman, was being talked out of running by Mannimarco because he ''has no chance'' in his campaign article, thankfully he didn't listen. The ICP is simply a running gag that's dried up and quite frankly dull.
Whatever happens, vote for someone that isn't ''for the lulz''. I may be a socialist but I don't give a damn if you vote for a far-right winger, it's better than the ''lulz'' you won't get from Manni. 🙂
and it will be the enemy of the Freeman's Party of Ireland
If Manni wins all the people who don't like it join my party!
This isn't about the "lulz". This is about Ireland's future. Do not shy from the light.
Well actually, yeah it is. The ICF doesn't really have a manifesto nor any committment to anyone.
Where is your commitment Imperator? What twisted goals lie beneath your pointed words?
My committmen's is toward eÉire, my culture, socialism and the IVF which exists to serve it's people and the peoples of the world without asking for anything in return, Mannimarco's ADF too, then again only out of convenience (who wanted us to rob them too, do you see my point?).
"I realize that I am likely burning bridges here, but I've tried for weeks to stem this tide and thus far my efforts have been in vain."
Sean, unlike some of my party colleagues, it seems, I don't like to publicly stab my friends in the back, but this statement is crap and through persistent provocation, you give me no choice.
Something changed in you about three days ago and now you're like an anti-christ. The old sean was at the very least least pleasant.
And loyal.
I was pleasant to those who agreed with my ideology and was loyal to the same. You gentlemen no longer fit in that category.
By the way Aran, if I offer you "certain assurances", will you retract your statement and apologize even though you have no reason to? It worked for Sev so I might as well try.
I like how I say you aren't socialists anymore and you call me the anti-Christ. If you're so hesitant about attacking your party members, why did you escalating your attacks over mine?
What is this ICF and what are its goals?
Oh and the big question for me is what does it stand for? International Coach Federation? International Canoe Federation? Italian Catholic Federation? Insulating Concrete Forms? Insulting Common Fags?
To me it sounds like the last one
What was true socialism? People fighting and insulting each other over a game?
"We're nothing more than a rubber stamp to pass the IUP's centrist and, at time, rightists policies." lol when have we passed rightist policies?
"Since when does the public not have a voice?" lol that's funny coming from someone who called the ISRP an obligarchy.
I encourage people in the ISRP to vote for Starks, he is dedicated, loyal to the party and he actually cares. Theus, I've been eRepublik for over 4 months and already seen him abandon eIreland twice.
Sean ever since you lost the election you've been doing nothing but moan. Just because some of your colleaugues disagree with starting feuds and arguments over nothing doesn't give you the right to declare the death of true socialism.
Sean I sympathise with you on the freedom of speech issue although I do believe discussion as to party policy and leadership would be better served overall by internal debate and not a public one.
Sev said "People fighting and insulting each other over a game? " Unfortunately you don't seem to get that politics is an element of this game. Inherent in politics which allow FREE SPEECH is the need to persuade citizens of the best course of action for the country through DEBATE, DISCUSSION and ARGUEMENTS........ you seem to be willing to sacrafice these just so you don't have to put up a minority of people getting sidelined and making personal attacks.
There you have it. A longtime socialist and longtime member of the ISRP endorses Theus. The PP of the IUP endorses Starks. Take from that what you will.
"Whenever someone speaks out of the fact that we are surrendering our will to the larger party, they are hushed up by not only Severin, the PP of the IUP, but Starks, the PP of the ISRP."
I have always supported free speach and the right to an opinion. Not once hae I ever told someone to reverse an opinion to quiet themselves; perhaps only suggesting that they view the alternative options, and I don't even do that often. And example is needed here.
"Do you need proof? How about Severin declaring "Public outcrys start nothing but heated irrational feuds" and Starks' immediate agreement? Since when does the public not have a voice?"
I was simply recognising that in this country, the mentality is that when a citizen speaks out or goes against the grain, he is immediatly badgered and shamed into silence. I hoped that by recognising this, we could begin to give citizens back their voice.
"Jointly they convince anyone with an original though that the public does not deserve to know about it. They keep it in the smoke-filled back rooms, or maybe they just shove it aside."
I have tried to give lucidity and clarity where possible. Again, I need an example, because I'm struggling to think of any time when I have activly hidden something from the public.
Please don't drag this out over my personal friendships, the desire for a consensus driven goverment, and the occaisional use of the private Dáil forum, because none of those stop my ability to lead a party.
"Sean ever since you lost the election you've been doing nothing but moan."
Have to disagree with you there Sev; he was doing it during the election too. 😛
First of all, a warning: I am not objective. Very few people are in politics. I'm an IUP member, and have been for some time now. If I was an ISRP member, I'd be voting for Starks. This is not because he aids us in our dastardly plots of tying comely maidens to train tracks. Rather, I consider him to be a fine politician and party leader, and a decent bloke. He's only been on eRep a little longer than me (a couple of weeks, if I'm not mistaken), but he's earned a great deal of my respect.
For the record, incidentally, I would consider myself something of a socialist. Take from that what you will.
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