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Lol poor Propaganda...

Because of the Bot-Propaganda, the Taxes have absolut no effect on the profit of the sellers neither a effect on the prices for consumers...

That's a snazzy flag! How do I get one of those?

Propaganda for what? I'm not even a member of a party!

"the Taxes have absolut no effect on the profit of the sellers neither a effect on the prices for consumers..."

Sorry, but the above sentence doesn't make any sense at all.

have you ever heard of the bot-economy?

Actually I also took part in pretty sophisticated projects trying to find out how those bots work. So keep that stuck-up bullshit, I'm no newbie to the economy.

actually increasing the tax, and taking some USD out of the economy might actually help reign in gold prices. Right now the market is flooded with excess cash to fix that taking out some of the cash might help lower prices and lower the usd-gold ratio

Fail article.
The market-bot buys products at a net price. Which means that import tax does NOT change the actual profit of the seller, but it "creates" money for the goverment.
If a product is at a 2$ price from a citizen in the market, and at a 4$ price from a citizen without American CS (considering import tax at 99😵, the market-bot is going to buy BOTH products, since both have the same starting price.
But in the second case it is also going to "create" 2$ for the government

this

Gold prices are not falling because there was too much CC out there, but because people want to train regularly full with Lana - without purchasing Gold for real life cash. it is also regulated by admins with bots (those irrational purchases on the CC/Gold side) -like commodity markets.

As the CBO already max out donations from the Treasury there is ZERO reason to raise taxes. These laws are exclusively about power: those controlling the big military units (and at the same time political power) are now trying to kill the private sector - YOUR FREEDOM NOT TO SUBJECT YOURSELF TO THEM.

These laws have absolutely nothing to do with economic rationale. This is a political coup, motivated by a thrive for power and undisturbed control.

this is a war game. if ur country's army is supplied properly thats the only thing that matters

We donate $99,999 every day to the Congressional Budget Office to continue to supply our militias and troops. That is almost the entire budget between USAF and OMS. Plus, the only way money in the treasury is accessible is by donating it to the CBO. So, for someone who is as well versed in this economy as you claim to be, you're making some pretty ignorant statements.

Also, we are raising Income Taxes, and only marginally at that. Our next step is to reduce the Import Tax and Value Added Tax. That is clearly laid out in proposal 86099 (see link in article). Get your facts straight SHM.

Crazy Ivann: Fail rebuttal attempt. As explained above the eUS congress already takes the maximum out of the Treasury every single day. There will be ZERO increase in potential spending. Nil. None.

"this is a war game. if ur country's army is supplied properly thats the only thing that matters"

"Your country" cannot be supplied. Only individual players can be supplied. Currently, in Bolshevik eUS the taxes of the whole poplation (plus foreigners working and/or buying here) is being spent on ~8% of the population. The only reason for that - as the political establishment claims - is that "they know better". The real reason is that they want to bring everything under there own control. As long as they keep it volutary it's all right. You either follow them or not. But these laws are Stalinist-style forced collectivization now.

"We donate $99,999 every day to the Congressional Budget Office to continue to supply our militias and troops. That is almost the entire budget between USAF and OMS. Plus, the only way money in the treasury is accessible is by donating it to the CBO. So, for someone who is as well versed in this economy as you claim to be, you're making some pretty ignorant statements."

Exactly. This is why there is ZERO economic rationality in increasing taxes when there will be ZERO cents more to spend. The only possible goal of that proposal can be suffocating the private sector. You STEAL a quarter of the incomes of everyone taking a job on the open market - WITHOUT that giving anyone a single cent more.


"Also, we are raising Income Taxes, and only marginally at that. Our next step is to reduce the Import Tax and Value Added Tax."

You dare to call 10 percentage points marginal? You are raising nboth income taxes to 25%. Punishing employment by American citizens and inviting imports. That's capital treason.

Would you rather see the VAT go higher or the income tax? Just throwing it out there.

Why on Earth would I like to see either of the go higher?

Again: the CBO ALREADY takes out the MAXIMUM of the Treasury daily. That means tax revenues are already higher than the government could spend.

The eUS is right now a Socialist nanny state. The govt maxes out on income redistribtion - spending three quarters of the budget on less than half of the active population (considering those who vote in elections active).

An American worker keeps 85% of his wage. A Polish one 99%. An Indonesian one 95%.

Tomorrow the American worker will get 75% of his wage.

An American worker makes 0.15 Gold a day. A Polish one makes 0.2. An Indonesian 0.17.

An American worker can buy 4.66 tanks a day. A Polish one 6.7. An Indonesian 6.47.

And now the corrupted Bolsheviks in the administration want to steal even more from the American worker - without actually earning a single cent more for the budget.

What's capital treason if not this? Makes even Pizza look pretty legit.

Hey noob, learn what communsim is. If this was really anything against the people, it would be the typical power of capitalism at it's work in politics.

is this satyrical?

"Hey noob, learn what communsim is. If this was really anything against the people, it would be the typical power of capitalism at it's work in politics."

It is really something against the people - serving a select few in the decision making positions of the CBO funded military units.

Like some 2nd commanders of some USAF units keeping the naive ones nder control by supplying them from my taxes.

This is exactly communism, 'noob', Stalin-style.

I want to burn that flag.

I think it resembles fascism more. After all, the aim of fascism is to make the nation strong (as here), while the aim of communism is to make the lives of individual citizens equally (un)happy. This initiative does not promote equality at all, as you have pointed out.

Unfortunately, this game breeds fascism because of the constant need for nations to be strong and war-ready.

1) If you want to see communism at work, look into the commune system that supplies much of our armed forces, not into the current tax structure.

2) You are correct that there will be no additional spending available with the changes to the tax code. What will be made available, though, is the ability to continue funding our armed forces when we get invaded next time. Each region the enemy takes away reduces our productivity, and therefore our nation's revenue stream. If that stream drops below $99,999 every day, we will need to tap into the reserves that exist in the Country Treasury. Right now we only have 5 days worth of CBO donations in the Treasury. That's embarassing. We are only a couple months outside of the last invasion and it appears that people like you have forgotten what it feels like to have CBO donations less than $50,000 per day.

3) This game, as it stand now, revolves around the military. Fight, fight, fight. You will win for a time, then you will lose for a time. This is a fact. The more you can prepare for those losses, the less time you will have to spend in the loser column. You have made it abundantly clear that you have no desire to plan for the future invasion of our country. It is going to happen, it is just a matter of time. I would rather plan for that time and do my best to ensure that we can remove any future invaders from our land as soon as possible.

1) Your commune system receives half of the maxed out tax incomes. Communes are exactly as efficient as the private sector - apart from evading the taxes the private sector does pay - to fund YOU.

2) Your military units consist less than a half of the active population - already suffocating the rest of the country. And indeed, if you keep ruining the economy a wipe might not be a distant possibility. If you'd try to focus on improving it - like the Polish and Hungarians do, that danger would considerably shrink though.

3) Pure bullshit. The whole 'imminent invasion' explanation haven't even emerged in the congress debate. Dwalk7 aske😛 " As long as we are bringing in enough to make daily donations and buy defense systems and hospitals why is there a reason to change taxes?"

YOU answere😛 "We would still be bringing in approximately the same daily revenue, but would just be making life a little less expensive for the active members of military units that are currently working in communes."

The intention is crystal clear: while there is absolutely no fiscal need to increase taxes you want to impose more taxes on those who are not in your military units, in order to fund those who are. There is zero need for a tax reform, it's simply an ideological crusade against the private sector.

Even without funding, communes would be far more efficient than the private sector, simply for the fact that profit isn't an issue.

Also, future military action against the eUS was the entire reason for this debate in the first place. Again, get your facts straight. That's why it's so important to have reserves in both the Congressional Budget Office and the Country Treasury.

Have fun with your flaming / trolling, I'm done with your pointless comments and asinine arguments.

- Crown Out!

... so basically, it`s a disincentive for those who do NOT wish o be in an MU, or an incentive to join one depending on how you look at it.

Anyway, the level of absolutism and debate stifling in here is insane. In this country your opinion is obviously not welcomed, well received or even seen as a legitimate form of expression. Awesome.

Land of the free to do what you`re told.

Okay, all propaganda aside though, in my experience RL North America really is kind of stifling. I must say that the opportunity to make a good living is still here as compared to a lot of other places, but truthfully in most other countries I`ve visited I felt a lot more free to do what I wanted and didn`t get the sense that the city or province was constantly looking over my shoulder to slap me with some kind of a fine for every little thing.

eRep society is always a reflection of RL society.

"eRep society is always a reflection of RL society."

disagree

This is pretty obviously satire.

...if it isn't, then you sir do not get the picture. Those donations are how the country actually uses its revenue. There's no debt to pay off in this game, and we're perpetually at war.

Still assuming this is satire. And quality satire at that, if so.

DOWN WITH THE TERRIBLE ELITISTS

oh noes it's TRRBL!

@Paul Proteus - examples?

The only valid argument to the contrary that is immediately obvious to me is that eRep reflects a fairly narrow demographic. Mostly young males that have the means to spend plenty of time on the 'ol interweb and likely have a nationalistic slant. Hardly a true reflection of society. None the less, the "feel" of e-countries resembles RL to a great degree, except for those whose citizenry is made up of mostly expats.

V/s;

25% is too high and portcolumbus hit the nail on the head, they will raise our taxes, but at the very least VAT would cause the economy to grow rather than decrease disposable income.

"Those donations are how the country actually uses its revenue. "

What part of " Government revenues won't grow - there's technically no room for growth." you failed to understand, Firo?

And stop the bullshit: it's not 'the country' using those funds, but YOU. The only budget line benefiting the country as a whole is the MPPs.

USSA - United Socialist States of America o/

unless they decide to put 100k+ for mow

JyM22 got it.

This guy is a fool

Dont listen to anything he says

he just trys to stir shit and troll

We've had experience of him in Ireland

Fail article is fail

Actually SHM, I discovered a 'ticking-time-bomb' in the module that only a CP could be aware of. I've no way of knowing when admins will activate it. But when they do... countries lacking vast standing treasuries are going to suffer.

So there is a point to collecting more taxes than the donation proposal limit can distribute

What a beautiful flag!

(Irish_Rebel_Reborn up there is an e😜resident of that little Corruptistan, who sold citizenship request approvals for 5 Gold to his own countries arch-enemies, the British PTOers.)

And what 'they' experienced there in eIreland is me crafting the ultraliberal tax system they still run with, and in an unprecendented move in eIreland - having it published, explained in detail and debated before even putting it up for a vote. Very much different from the shady background deals of raising income taxes to the cap.

wtf.....minus 30USD on my wage. This is insane.