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I remember still how [a url=http://www.erepublik.com/profile-367822.html]BotherMe[/a] (MSAP) talked about how FBS are keeping people out from "Regeringen".
And now, Well, Surprise, They have done it again...
No one of our new Congressmen is in to The Congress 10 days after the elections.
I can understand if I, DKN or Purjo will not have access.
DKN is called "Security Threat", Purjo for Inactive and I...
Well, Yesterday our "Loving" president called me Retard.
But im not surprised, I am really not liked in FBS.
Look at UrkLurk or Flammbar.
But the fact that no one of the new ones have access is strange.
Because its people like [a url=http://www.erepublik.com/profile-455781.html]Krazion[/a] (MSAP), [a url=http://www.erepublik.com/profile-65381.html]N00b gone wild[/a] (FBS) and not to forget.
Flammbar beloved Friends, [a url=http://www.erepublik.com/party-1292.html]The Poles[/a]
We are many persons kept outside.
Many in DNS, Many in MSAP, All in PSF, All in Purjo, and Some in FBS.
DNS have 8 congressmen, 5 is locked out.
But what i wonder is, Why?
Is it what we are Un-wanted, Or that somebody have no started whith it yet?
To order who will be where, And who will be here.
btw. Its Flammbars job...
A want a loot of things, But right at this moment.
An explanation to Why we are looked out?
Forgot, Im sick today again, may be the reason to why its so badly wrote (i think)
And one thing more: [a url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=old6xeBVIfw]The thing[/a]
Heard it 5-6 times today, And well.
Comments
I hope you feel better soon - I am on a small trip with unexpected good internet access 🙂.
Anyway I would like to see here who and why has access to Regeringen. FBS always talks about making politics more visible to people but I can\'t see who is why part of Regeringen, our part where the important discussion take place. It is not a good sign of Democracy if there is a part created from a special group and only they have access.
Who observes them? When do they publish their results and when do they open older threads to let people see what they have done? To be honest, it sounds for me like a speciousness Democracy made by people that have more power then they should have in a real Democracy. Please correct me, because I like to be here on the good side.
I suggest that the party presidents discuss with Flammbar.
http://www.erepublik.se/memberlist.php?mode=group&g=9
37 users.
http://www.erepublik.se/memberlist.php?mode=group&g=24
34 Users 😕
Why is Regeringen full of FBS Members!?
And persons that should not be where, Because they have not been voted in.
The government i chosen by the president. Therefore he can choose people that aren\'t congressmen.
I assume that our current party president are not respected by Flammbar - I think it would be better to let the Poles speak to him...as they did before and as they always say when they mention their special agreement with Flammbar - but nobay had the chance to read something about such an agreement.
Hey we are the people of eSweden and nobody tells us about real important stuff - how can it be that we have hidden agreements for so long without knowing them by the majority of our Congressmen?
Marten, Tell me the Democratic part where?
Because, IRL, The Government is elected people!
\"The government i chosen by the president. Therefore he can choose people that aren\'t congressmen.\"
If the President can choose ppl outside the government then please let us not call it democracy then we just vote for an autocratic president.
Democracy means no secrets of the government because we all need to observe them to find out if they work in our manner or not.
No, in IRL-Sweden, the prime minister elects his or her government. The congress function is to pass laws and make sure that the government does its best. It also elects the PM. In Erepublik, the people elect the president directly.
I\'ve told you how \"Riksdagen\" works for you on IRC Gustavius, and that can people from your own party certify that I did. They ones that aren\'t in the congress can\'t vote, but they can discuss, just like it works IRL. Saying this ain\'t democracy is lacking of knowledge. How Flammbar decides who gets into \"Regeringen\", that I can\'t answer at.
Sorry St00r but if there are treatments or agreements made by ppl from the government without letting the ppl know is no Democracy and I am sure I have no lack of knowledge by this.
Just list up who and why is in the government and has access to Regeringen. I saw last time http://www.erepublik.com/profile-739362.html this one that just joined Regeringen 1 days after he started eRepublik. Give us the chance to prove the government and not the Congress! Give us much more information about what has been decided in Regeringen to find out who abused power and who not. It is obviously that nobody from Regeringen will tell us what went wrong or not but we have the right to see all of that - not the actually threads but at least the older ones for instance 1 week old or 2 weeks. Otherwise it is just that we (no invited ppl) can only hope for the best but never be sure...that\'s still not satisfying
@ Sebl: It\'s up to every party president to let someone in. (Not 100% sure about this now tho, I leave this to Flammbar)
And I have to agree that some discussions should be in Riksdagen instead of Regeringen and the older ones in Regeringen should be put in Riksdagen or some other open forum.
The government in itself does not have constitutionalized power in eSweden, it\'s mearly a form of council for the president. They aren\'t more powerful than you make them. Usually, they\'re just congressmen/women like you, with a bit more work to do.
I can agree with some of this criticism. Flammbar should state who and why they are selected into \"Regeringen\". But it is also the parties responsibility that they get their congressmen into \"Regeringen\". If they dont even ask for entrance its gonna be a great deal of work for a single person.
Gustavius. Have spoken to Flammbar about this before writing the article?
ZiggyZag, I planned to do it Yesterday. But when he called me for a Retard, And when it never happend.
[22:15] Retard From our IRC...
So no, I planned to, But never got the chance.
I am not sure but I strongly believe that DKN had tried to bring their party member into Regeringen. He surly tries to bring itself in, too.
I think that the main problem about Regeringen is that is being used for referendums that according to all rules should be held in congress.
> Yesterday our \"Loving\" president called me Retard.
Who hasn\'t?
Prop, You know i can get you Banned for that with some luck?
But its silly, FBS really dont like me, Just look at The IRC and that they are talking about.
Riksdagen = the parliament, only elected congressmen has been given access there.
Regeringen = the government where president Flammbar chose who he likes to have there. eSweden has a rather mature democracy to be a eRepublik country.
If you are elected you get power both in Erepublik.com and in Erepublik.se although getting elected and getting trusted by the president isn\'t the same thing. Not IRL nor in Erepublik.
With this said I think much of what are beeing discussed in Regeringen could just as well be moved to Riksdagen or perhaps even better to the totally open forums. Even more of it should be moved to the English section, but I guess no one has energy to do that. We have just lost the Parliaments Spokesperson who was responisble for Information from the Government due to lack of energy.
So, yes, we need to improve - a lot. But it\'s a game and much of this takes a lot of energy to do. My apologize for not writing more of my stuff in english and in open forums.
To summarize: People in Regeringen aren\'t all elected, they\'re chosen by the president. Those who are not part of the congress, don\'t have the right to vote. The chosen ones are only there to discuss.
I\'d also like to ask people to actually do some research before you post an article. It\'s not fun to see the same false accusations again and again, just because people are too lazy/stupid to check out the facts.
If you do research and miss something, fine, atleast you meant no harm, but when you throw around harming words without anything to back it up, I get pissed off.
i havent read all comments, but some of them including danny\'s last response.
an article based on false informations is actually something that souldnt happen, but i understand that it can happen and it will happen again and again.
there\'s just one solution to lower the percentage of articles/rumors based on false informations: you got to make clear how everything runs, there got to be a place where EVERYBODY can see hierarchies, explanations and so on.
The thing is, Gustavius can get all this information, he has been told how everything works on IRC. But he doesn\'t like Flashback (because we are bigger then DNS), so he still critizise us.
Well, Perhaps i should critice the Idea thith a Regering and Riksdag.
Because if so much in Regeringen could be oppen or at Riksdagen it should.
When about False information, Well, If the Article is built on Why its not changed in the List, Because i have hard to See that Flammbars good friend PSF or other very clever persons in DNS and MSAP is not good enough.
And Frozen, I dont like Due of that you are still for me a Party that are linked to Flashback Sweden, And that i have fellt many times your dis-respect to me.
Oh, And i have wonder if you are not Populism...
That post was really hard to read.
First: The regering is only there to help Flammbar, being a president takes a lot of time, something Flammbar doesn\'t always have. They can\'t vote, unless they are in the riksdag too.
\"When about False information, Well, If the Article is built on Why its not changed in the List, Because i have hard to See that Flammbars good friend PSF or other very clever persons in DNS and MSAP is not good enough.
And Frozen, I dont like Due of that you are still for me a Party that are linked to Flashback Sweden, And that i have fellt many times your dis-respect to me.\"
That was the hard part. I can\'t understand anything. In the end I think you say something about that I disrespect you. I can confirm that. Sorry, but unless you grow up some, or join BERZERKER, I can not re-spect you.
Btw, who are Populism?
Ta det på Svenska: Jag har undrat om ni inte är Populism.
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism
But, I said that im surprised that PSF (Flammbars Friends) or anyone else of the new congressmens have acces to Regeringen.
And i dont like FBS due of that i feel that they are linked to Flashback Forum to much.
And because i feel that FBS and Populism is like 2 sisters.
Även på svenska så är det väl du som är populistisk? Vettefan om det där är rätt böjt.
To our English readers: We had a hard time understanding each other, so gustavius had to speak some Swedish.
@Gustavius, you are like \"bambi\" on the ice now! And if you don´t know what the hell I´m talking about here, you just have to sit down and figure it out.
Come on pls, do something right for once..
//Mjau
The second half of my post is just explaining to him why I called him retard.
And Flammbar declaring that he he wasn\'t serious when calling him a retard, but that he now thinks that Gustavius is an idiot and is one of the few people here in erepublik that he doesn\'t like.
Ohh Thank You Flammbar...
Always pleasing to know that you are in the Mind of The President.
And for the last god damn time, hardly any of the top Flashback Sweden members have anything to do with the Flashback forum. And even if we did, the forum isn\'t all about racism and drugs. It\'s simply a forum where people can discuss whatever they feel like without any censorship. I happen to know for a fact that people from ALL parties browse 4chan but in the end it has no bearing on erepublik what so ever. I\'m getting tired of your incomprehensible slander.
Well, to make the author more jealous and nervous I must say that if I remember well in the summer I was invited to this \"Regeringen\" but I was on vacations that time and I was not very interested, because I have no usefull advices for Swedish government - they are doing very well. But if ti makes you more sad, jealous or desperate, I can join this Regeringen only to say to you \"Nenenene, I am in the Regeringen and you are not\".
I know you feel alone outside Regeringen, but htere is many activiteis thet outsider may undertake, like poetry or being emo.