Re: the main difference(s) between EDEN and PHOENIX [EN]
NumbuS
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Greetings!
One more article written under influence of emotions.
Today for several times I saw addvert of "wonderful" article "the main difference(s) between EDEN and PHOENIX".
And I have feeling that this article was written by the man who stands on the EDEN's side, because by this article author did a single thing - stained the good name of Phoenix with sewage.
What he done looks similar to farther illustrations.
We got a "genius" with the "bright idea".
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He take his "idea" and wrote "super article".
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Good for you, author! You made such a great thing! Enjoy your brilliance!
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But still I can't realise - WTF his "creative work" gathered 780+ votes!
Is there are were 780+ people without sense of humour who didn't respect thereselfs?
It's a shame to see good people leaving "LOL's" in comments!
C'mon! You really think that it's funny?
Sincerely yours,
NumbuS.
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Lol again 😃
Your article is even funnier, dude!
voted.
HAIL PHOENIX!
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Voted for EDEN!
Voted for EDEN!
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Guys, are you stupid? Don't you think comments must be... more conceptable and informatyve that "Hail something; Voted etc.", eh?
lol?
I laughed my ass off. Good job as always, phoenix.
Do rouge states nowadays fashion themselves 'Phoenix'?
EDEN is awesome, we just about PWNED the crap out of U.K. a little bit ago, and if we had a little better strategy, we could've won!
"Guys, are you stupid? Don't you think comments must be... more conceptable and informatyve that "Hail something; Voted etc.", eh?"
I consider the majority of both PHOENIX and EDEN meatheads, and meatheads can't think.
but u didnt
and this is
not realy funny
This article is not pro-Eden or anti-Phoenix, its just the advise for you to think before you write articles/comments
@Livelie
"Guys, are you stupid?"
What are you, having a communist avatar? Do you know how many people the communists have tortured and killed in the world? Have you attented history lessons?
Doesn't matter which side I'm on but this shit's hilarious!
Un-voted and de-subscribed.
I pray that you garnered most of those 1000 subs from articles written in your native language. I couldn't tell if you were being sardonic or what. 😛
What are you, having a communist avatar? Do you know how many people the communists have tortured and killed in the world? Have you attented history lessons?
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I disapprove many of deeds RL-coomies for last 100 years, but this was corrupted commies, they corrupt purity of Idea. But idea still pure. imho.
HAIL EDEN
HAIL AMERICA
HAIL BROTHERHOOD
Numbus, удали картинки. Без них они, очевидно, не понимают смысла и печали.
yes i believe its funny 🙂
have a nice day
btw EDEN PROPAGANDA?
Exalted, yes, about 70% of my subscribers are from Russia.
I tried to make not serious article on a serious topic.
Hope one day I will bring you one more article which will deserve your sub.
Best regards.
Livelie, думаешь? Без картинок статья будет излишне печальной - а мне печаль нельзя, я позитивный 🙂
NDA1, I'm trying to count people who think that it's not 😁
"EDEN PROPAGANDA?"
My article is not and yours? 🙂
Well done. In criticising his article you have inadvertantly created an article which is just as full of fail as his was.
Every idea is pure.cause its just an idea,its not real,it doesnt have matter. Its the representation of an idea to the actions that it carries that have meanining. That's real...So by saying that the idea of Communism is a pure idea is something that it's true. But the representation of that idea to the real world....that is a different subject. And dont say that the people that represented the idea were corrupted. Corruption is everywhere. Not a good justification...
But again....that's me... 🙂
Wybranowski you also must have not attended to history lessons if you lead ND party which was nationalist in RL and it's leader was a racist having a lot in common with faschists.
George Norfolk, you are not quit right. My article is half better than his, because it includes 50% less of stupid images 🙂
'I disapprove many of deeds RL-coomies for last 100 years, but this was corrupted commies, they corrupt purity of Idea. But idea still pure. imho'
Sorry, it's not pure it's a murderous ideology.
representation of that idea to the real world
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That was representation in ex-russian imerium. nothing strange that people who was slaves yesterday became slavemasters and murders. Base to communism must be Republic, not Monarchy.
Sorry, it's not pure it's a murderous ideology.
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well... wait, WHAT?
IT SUCKS!
Ideas...ideas...ideas....you know the word "idea" comes from the greek "ιδεα".But if you pronounce it in english it sounds in greek like the word "Αηδία", whick means "😉isgust"...
just saying.... 🙂
@Livelie
you don't get it do you? read more about comunism, learn, trace its beginings. You think comunism were corupted wherewer it appeard? Kuba, Korea, Vietnam, Russia, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, China... lol. it was ideology that was wrong from the begining.
I read and watched about communism alot. The only reason why communism failed in 20 century it's because all those countryes was not prepared, and there allways was a horrible dictator, like stalin, Mao and others. The real communism will be based on majority of peoples, not one of them.
@Livelie
The real communism is based on false idea that human can be changed and programed. That society and human being can evolve in something else. It's against human nature, against human will. Against humanity and it will always fail. Marks and Engels were first to propose genocide for not developed societies on level they though is enough to ascend to communism level. read some more stuff. The whole basics of communistm are againgst human nature, and it will always be "engineering of human society". Remodeling by removing big part of society (killing). it's always the same scenario. wherewer it appears. You think Mao, Stalin, Castro, Kim dzong Ill and many others didn't knew what communism is? LOL.
First step to create new society is to eliminate all who think in old ways (inteligence), then it's about to remodel all who think different, have more, than the others. And when we have uneducated, poor flock, it's about remodel they way of thinking to communist level, and there will be paradise. Every communist dictator in history knew this, so they tried to achive it. You think you're smarter than them. and call them horrible dictators... wrong. they tried to achive pure communist society. You can call it social engineering in communist way.
Don`t you know that alot of murderers and dictators were capitalists ?
Senseless discussion though. voted 🙂 Quite funny
capitalist dictator is greedy bastard. Communist dictator is ideological bastard 😉 - main difference.
@Livelie
"That was representation in ex-russian imerium. nothing strange that people who was slaves yesterday became slavemasters and murders. Base to communism must be Republic, not Monarchy."
Quit insulting Russians and blaming them for communist(=YOUR) crimes.
YOU SPELLED HONOR WRONG YOU BRIT!
Livelie,those that were not born and didn't live in soviet union will never understand what u mean 🙂 Germans burnt million alive but that doesn't mean taht i have to hate them cause it's not those people that live now did it.Soviets at least had a good idea to start with 🙂 By the way, Venesuela's new political structure built according to Marx's idea. They are happy 🙂
@ Livelie -
Agreed. There has never been a true, national experiment in pure communism. No one knows how things would work out once they got past the "😉ictatorship of the Proletariat". Just guesses based on the relative success of capitalism.
@ Tygryst -
I've read the Communist Manifesto by Marx (and Engels) back in college and there was by no means any mention of genocide. They wanted to un-program the way people had already been brainwashed by religion and capitalism. To say that man's basic nature is to try to dominate and use all those around him to aggrandize himself is no more reasoned or "intelligent" than pointing to the cooperative (and obviously successful) lifestyle of our most primitive ancestors. Trace our most noble nature throughout human history and you will find at least as many examples of self sacrifice and cooperation as self serving task-mastery.
Capitalism's only claim to superiority is the success of few. Not its nobility, honor, charitable nature--for it has none--but its ruthless efficiency alone. Capitalism is the first and only act of an animal. Marx’s mistake was to assume that there were enough of us evolved past our most base natures to lead the rest of humanity into a golden age of humanitarianism.
Soviet Russia was not communist. China is not and never was communist. It has never been successful because it has never been truly tried. At Communism's most elemental form it is the elimination of society's classes and the sharing of property. Nothing like this has been accomplished beyond the size of an Israeli kibbutz. Which, I might add, are more successful than comparably-sized capitalist communities.
what nation knows more that Russians about the communism?
nobody
but today a lot of Russians respect our communists past and communist ideas because it did a lot for our prosperity and for world's freedom and social policy.
People who have experienced what it is like to live in a communist(-occupied) country know very well that Communism is by no means better than Nazism. Maybe when Katyn or the Siberian death-camps become tourist attractions like Auschwitz, even the West will understand that communism is the same evil, totalitarian ideology as national-socialism.
🙁 bad thing without brain
@ Stranger Here Myself -
"People who have experienced what it is like to live in a communist(-occupied) country know very well that Communism is by no means better than Nazism. Maybe when Katyn or the Siberian death-camps become tourist attractions like Auschwitz, even the West will understand that communism is the same evil, totalitarian ideology as national-socialism."
I'm unfamiliar with a single nation in human history that is or has been a true communist republic where most property is shared by the people. It has never happened. Just because someone claims to be a communist doesn't mean they are a practicing one...or even that they know true communism if they saw it.
What you are describing are totalitarian states where the people have very little say and most property is kept from the people. The states you have cited, the U.S.S.R. and Nazi Germany are basically anti-communism by definition.
Yeah, we had a joke back in the times of Soviet occupation (which could get you in trouble if a police informer lurked around):
"Existing communism doesn't work and working communism doesn't exist."
Communism have killed some 70 million people worldwide, from the Chinese 'cultural' cleansing through the Ukrainian Holodomor to the millions murdered in Stalin's Gulag death camps.
Whatever some troubled youngsters dream in their comfortable and safe liberal democracies - in reality Communism is the synonym of mass graves, poverty and inhumanity.
@ Stranger Here Myself -
No matter what color the flag or creed espoused, atrocities are no less tragic. How many tortured, raped, and killed in the name of Pax Romana? Holy Church? US manifest Destiny?
I can only guess at the pain you feel towards such an occupational regime. And I agree, a person born poor and crippled in the USA can count himself fortunate when compared to hardships many must endure every day in other corners of the world to stay alive. I'm one of those "Troubled Youngters" dreaming in my "comfortable and safe democrac[y]" mentioned--though I'm 39--but that doesn't take away from the falsity of the Communism you experienced.
Communism is about holding a group of people more important than an individual's power. It's democratic, noble, self sacrificing. It says that if you are crippled you have a place and a worth, and if you are hungry you will be fed. The work in fields will be shared and the bounty of the crop will also.
There is no raping and killing in evidence to such an ideal. But that's what it is, an ideal. Just as Rome's peace, the Catholic Church's desire for a Christian Jerusalem, and the United States of America's believe that the land from the East coast to the West should be under one flag are all ideals. They are good ideas implemented by greedy, heartless, a**holes. And I hope we can all agree that whenever you get a greedy, heartless a**hole in power things will go very very badly.
Such is the case with the occupation of your country, Stranger Here Myself. It had absolutely nothing to do with communism and everything to do with greedy, heartless a**holes. If you must hate, be sure you are hating the right thing.