Quote the Raven "Nevermore" - One Tin Soldier nr. 50
Leaffly
Dear readers,
First, i'd like to wish good luck to all new elected presidents. Special congratulations go to Olv007 who finally managed to get presidential spot in eBelgium and push invaders out of his country.
WARNING: Most of the stuff i will publish below comes with no proof. I have checked EVERY thing published here from at least 2 different sources, and none of them had any reason to lie to me. I didn't tell them i will publish it, but i trust they knew that.
This article is about eSerbian e
😜resident RavenSerbia. There have been many things about him that people find unclear, and i'll try to explain it here.
case: Bulava and the Valetta money
Everyone had to notice so far that eSerbian player bulava was accused of stealing some RSD from one of eSerbian national organizations. His main defense was swearing he didn't do it, and people who knew him well said he isn't smart enough to do something like it. RavenSerbia claimed it was Bulava, and said that "his admin friend" confirmed it to him (more about it in next case). As it turned out later, it wasn't bulava who stole the money. By some checking, admin said that the guy who took the money wasn't in the Valleta Team. Only person who has password and wasn't in Valleta Team was RavenSerbia. You put 2 and 2 together. (hint: it's 4) CHECK FOR EDIT ON END
case: His admin Friend
Only a handful of people knew that RavenSerbia has applied for moderator position. Even less people knew that he actually got a spot of Junior Moderator. It gave him access to ticket resolving part, but he wasn't able to look into someone IP adress, or to see access list for organizations.
It DID however give him ability to report someone as the player, and then react to that same ticket as Junior Moderator. I know at least 1 ban that he made which should only be the warning. Luckily, some proper moderators noticed it, and he was kicked our of moderators team. He did claim that he left moderator team on his own will.
case: Rally?! What else?
He claimed that he was getting threats by the phone in Real Life, by his political enemies in game. At one point he even claimed that he alerted the police, and that violators will be arrested.
Sadly for him, some of our players ARE actually working in the Police Department in the same town he lives in, and checked did someone complain on it: Guess what they found out? Right, no one.
He claimed that he had Motorcycle accident where he broke 2 ribs. Two or three days later he claimed that he had walked for 2 hours to pharmacy to buy medicine. It actually is possible, but not likely to be truth.
There are also other things that i could say here, but i could be wrong about them. The main point is: he started with lies, and had to continue using them. As several points, i suspected him using lies to manipulate people, which may be the truth, when i look back. (i did cooperate closely with him for past 3 months).
case: Leaving the game
Few days before his mandate would end (yeah, 5 days ago) he probably realized that he did NOTHING important during his one month. Yes, we kept our regions, but is that really accomplishment? He posted a log that he claimed was him and some admin talking. From that log, if you read carefully, you could have seen how he saved entire eSerbia from national IP ban. Did i mention that both him and "admin" talked same bad english? Did i mention that there is no admin under the name of "easyyyyy"?
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Since it was chat of eSerbian government he underestimated our knowledge and perception. After he was confronted with facts - about that log, about valleta money, about baning, kicking from moderator team and some other stuff, he decided to quit the game. He didn't admit it was all lies, he said he is tired of accusations, and that he stops playing to save his nerves.
As for the things said here - I was first to disbelieve what was happening, and i was first to look for other explanations for i closely cooperated with raven for 3 months, and didn't believe that i was so blind to see what was really behind it all. He even applied for eRepublik Ambassador medal as soon as some videos hit youtube. Took me 2 weeks from the first evidences presented to me to gather up info and put all the pieces together. To all of you that i said that raven is a good guy - my apologies, i was blind.
Copy of this article will be saved on Google Docs in case this gets deleted.
I hope we will never have such a bad president again.
This is what i could do to get the truth out.
I only try to do as much as i can - try it, it's great.
One Tin Soldier,
Leaffly
P.S. Admins - please consider this article as me saying the truth. If you HAVE to, then consider it political battle (so you only give me warning instead of ban). Thanks
😉
EDIT: I was just informed by the Valleta Team that RavenSerbia did NOT have password for that organization. That means that he couldn't take the money from Valleta. Do not add 2 and 2 together in this case, it's not 4.
EDIT2: Some other sources just told me that Admins told them that they KNOW who took the money, but that they can not disclose the organization that bought it for they are bound by Privacy Policy.
Bottomline: Make contracts for organizations that hold money with people using it. If a person working on org accepts to work there, he can be pointed to if he taken money. Simple as that.
Comments
сори фор мај бед инглиш чД
tuga...
Lesinarska je tuga pregolema
jbg bolje 120 golda nego par 'iljada kao ex francuska predsednica...
Posle svega se ispostavilo da je sve Raven zakuvao (da ne upotrebim težu reč). Ko bi rekao, izgledao je kao pošten lik koji bi uradio sve za eSrbiju.
By some checking, admin said that the guy who took the money wasn't in the Valleta Team.
Drago mi je ako je ova informacija stvarno potekla od admina,iako sam u nevinost ekipe sa kojom sam radio u Valletti prilicno cvrsto bio uveren i bez iste...na nase tickete jos uvek nije odgovoreno 😮
Nek im je svima na chast ...
Ne verujem. o.O
Leaffly, kome ti ovo pises? Zasto engleski?
@niodaklevci: pisem van srbije, pa pishem engleski da bi ljudi mogli da citaju. (to je odgovor na Zasto Engleski)
A pisem ovo onima koje zanima sta ja imam da napisem. Moj stav, moje misljenje za ljude koji zele da ga cuju 😃
Ovo ni mis Marpl ne bi prokljuvila 😮
Znam bre, pretplacen sam na tvoje novine vec vijekovima 🙂
Nije mi jasno koga bi moglo ovo da zanima van granica eSrbije, zato pitam.
evo ti jos par njegovih lazi 🙂
obecao je baby boom u svojoj reziji-do toga nije doslo.
rekao je da je sredio sa svojim sefom da kupi golde RL parama u americi, i da je izdvojio svojih 5000 evra!? i da treba sledecih meseci da nam legne 80 000 golda na racun.
plasirao mi je pricu kako je poslao 3000 poruka adminima sa raznom tematikom. zimedju ostalog pricao je da su mu admini obecali da ukoliko objavimo par clanaka o tome sta bi kosovo i metohija kao regija znacili za nas, vec u januaru bi nam sigurno ubacili ovu regiju.
ne svira gitaru jer mu je bivsa dwevojka umrla!? ne znam da li je istina.
rece da su pretili i njegovoj verenici, a s obizrom koliko covek laze, ne verujem da ima verenicu. mozda je i gay(bez uvrede za gay ljude).
i na kraju rece da napusta igru, a ukoliko pogledas kompaniju u kojoj je zaposlen, videces da je i ova dva dana radio otkad je rekao da napusta igra-znaci jos jedna laz.
koliko sam ih nabrojao mogao bi jos jedan clanak o tome da objavis 😃
Eto a ja kad sam pricao,bio sam onaj koji rusi drzavu,i unosi nervozu u igru i paranoiše! 😛
@zverko: znam ja sve to, i jos mnogo toga. Ovde sam naveo samo stvari koje sam apsolutno siguran da su laz.
e, da, zar mu verenica nije umrla pre 2 godine?
wow. im in article on english, 😃 im superstar hahahha lol 😃
Cek, cek, cek, cek... rekao je da ce da kupi golde za svojih 5.000 evra?!?!?!??!?!??!??????????????!!!!!!!! ?!?!?
ju brate svaka čast na članku, otvara malo oči!!!!
@niodaklevci
rekao je da je kupio golde za svojih 5000 evra.i to preko sefa u americi. ne znam samo otkad je oficijalna valuta u americi evro 😒
i satro, to je bila prevelika suma da nam legne odjednom na racun, pa je rekao da ce svaki dan po 1000 golda biti uplaceno, tako nesto
Clanak me je iznenadio zaista. Nemam misljenje i na tome ce ostati. Samo jedna stvar:
bezveze je pricati sad kad je covek prestao da igra. Zasto ovo niko nije spominjao dok je igrao?
DejanQ
a ti si mene, bas dosta optuzivao u komentarima 😮
Vote!
auuuu a delovao je bas kao fin lik xDDDD
e tugo tugo 😐
@bulava & dejanQ: Molim vas da UKOLIKO zelite da se raspravljate o tome ko je koga optuzivao gde, to radite negde drugde 😃 Unapred Hvala 😃
@irebelo aka Morbid Angel: Ja nisam stigao ranije da objavim, a ako pogledas njegov profil, videces da jos uvek dvoklikuje. A i znam da je subovan na mene, pa verujem da ce procitati ovo pre ili kasnije.
bez komentara kao i sve vreme na ovaj slucaj.
samo jedno pitanje, odakle vama svima informacija da ne igra vise?
bogunovic objavi takvu vest, sledeci dan covek na 100 weknesa, juce udarao? opet neke ``informacije iz prve ruke``??
Leafy izvinjavam se, ali samo da odgovorim jos jednom bulavi:
Ja sam ti se isto tako i izvinuo kad si objavio clanak 🙂
zverko, (zimedju ostalog pricao je da su mu admini obecali da ukoliko objavimo par clanaka o tome sta bi kosovo i metohija kao regija znacili za nas, vec u januaru bi nam sigurno ubacili ovu regiju) a zar ti nisam lepo rekla da to nema veze sa bilo chim 😃
Cek, cek, cek, cek... rekao je da ce da kupi golde za svojih 5.000 evra?!?!?!??!?!??!??????????????!!!!!!!! ?!?!?
looool - koliko naivan treba biti pa u ovo verovati??? Ajde da nam se jave svi oni kojima je ovo plasirano, pa da se znamo x)
Leaflly - dobar kao i uvek 🙂
Glas za chlanak, ali ajde daj i prevod na Cirilicu, pa da te stavim u shout 🙂
DejanQ
a sry onda x)
@wayman: On je LICNO rekao da prestaje da igra aktivno. Nije spomenuo da li ce da bude 2-kliker.
Raven nije imao pass Vallette...
I ne znam gde si cuo informaciju da nijedan radnik Vallette nije uzeo pare.Koliko ja znam,sve sto su admini rekli je da su vrlo brzo ispratili na koji nalog su pare prebacene i to je sve.
Dajte ljudi nemojte mnogo jesti... Ni za jednu od navedenih stvari nemate neki dokaz, nego samo prazne price... I slazem se sa Irebelo26: bezveze je pricati sad kad je covek prestao da igra. Zasto ovo niko nije spominjao dok je igrao? x2
Iza Ravena su stale tri politicke partije. Njega su izglasali građani eSrbije na izborima.
@mizz_anavl: Ja sam i napisao da nemam dokaz za ove stvari. Da li ti imas dokaz za suprotno? 😉
@Elveonum: da, to mi jeste najslabija tvrdnja, ali ja sam stavio informacije koje su do mene dosle. Npr nisam stavio da si ti imao pass or NBS-a, posto sam tu informaciju dobio iz samo jednog izvora.
prestanak aktivnog igranja nije isto sto i prestanak igranja.
Ne govorim tebi inace Leaffly, ti si probio led. Ako su takve price kruzile, zasto niko nije nista govorio i sad odjednom svi preko komentara se prave pametni i nadodaju jos (ovo zaista gledam sa neutralne pozicije posto o ravenu nemam zaista nikakvo misljenje)
Tebi svaka cast na probijanju leda. Smesni su mi ovi koji te koriste kao stit (posto ces ti biti napljuvan ako ovo nije tacno, a ne oni).
Simeona, spot on.
LOL! xD
mymothers.
misim da mi je ovo prvi subscribe koji sam imao. 🙂
Pa sto ne rekoste to u vrijeme predizborne kampanje, da planira da da 5.000 evra za golde? 🙂 Za 5.000 evra moze se u nekim dijelovima Srbije kupiti kuca i imanje, ili bar dobar polovan auto.
Ma na koje to irc kanale vi idete, molim vas pozovite i mene nekad, hocu i ja da imam "pouzdane" informacije 🙂🙂🙂
Глас..несумњиво је само једно-добро смо ми још и прошли ка еСрбија..замислите како би било да је мандат продужен и на овај месец..
ајд бар нека корист и од политичких пљубачина(да ме се не схвати погрешно-ипак сва она халабука по новинама је довела до овога да се говори и оно што су изгледа многи знали -а прећутно гледали)
Сад ме брине друго нешто-има ли јш тога што тамо неки знају, а о чему ћуте???
Da, to i ja vidim, sad svi sve znaju...
Ne znam sta treba da te brine, naravno da ima. Sta mislis odakle Poljacima ovoliko igraca, ili Rumunima 50k zlata, da ne pricam o ovim nekim sitnicama. 🙂
Ima i uvek ce biti...
takodje Horabin, kako bi nam bilo da je ostao jos jedan mesec? Mozda bi nam bilo bolje, ko zna 😛
Ovako ovo je sve sada suvisno pisati i ne vidim potrebu da se nastavlja neko lose sirenje enrgije tj raspolozenja. 🙁
Mozda na ovaj nacin neki pokusavaju da opravdaju sebe sto su slepo verovali u sve te price, sto nisu imali dodirnih tacaka sa realnoscu i mentalitetom naseg naroda. Ovo sto si napisao je samo deo stvari i bolje da se druge ne pominju jer su mozda i gore (kako za koga) sta je sve radjeno. Ne samo ovaj mesec nego i pre 😉
Prema tome bolje staviti tacku na sve to i krenuti dalje, od proslosti i gresaka se ne zivi vec od gledanja u buducnost. Sledeci put malo ukljucite sivu masu pa probajte nekad i slano jelo a ne uvek slatko(recivost).
Glavu gore i hodajte uspravno 😁
@lrebelo26 -па незнам..помало ми морбидно делују неки потези..као и ове неке ствари о којима се прича, а ја баш не волим да имам контакта са неким морбидностима...
Боље или горе...на срећу никада нећемо сазнати, а знаш како наш народ каже-где има дима-има и ватре!
@moonche: Bravo, ja ovo pisem prvenstveno zato sto me boli sto sam slepo verovao u ove stvari. Sada kada gledam na to sto sam verovao, smesan sam sam sebi.
..opet shpekulacije....dajte ljudi neke konkretne stvari...dosta sa ovakvim tzv. "dokazima"
Leaffly sta da ti kazem osim da imas pivo 🙂
..da me neko ne shvati pogresno...samo bih voleo da se ceo slucaj razjasni sta je bilo...ne zelim da mi neko povezuje kockice sta je najverovatnije bilo.....jer se to izgleda, menja kako ko izbaci novi clanak......ko moze da povuche info i dokaze iz prve ruke...nek ucini to.......sta mislite kako moze da utice na nove igrace cinjenica da se krade iz drzavne kase....da predsednik krade....da radnici kradu ?
....ali kad se sve ovo vec ovoliko razvuklo....ISTERAJTE OVO DO KRAJA..ko je u mogucnosti
sto se mog pitanja o Ravenovom prestanku igranja ili dvokliktasenju, da objasnim, posto ocigledno ovde lud zbunjenog
znaci ovako,Bogunovic kaze u novinama SNO
-Док сам писао овај чланак, сазнао сам да је већ сад бивши председник Равен напустио игру!
Zatim i ovde vidim,da je on nekome negde rekao isto
-He didn't admit it was all lies, he said he is tired of accusations, and that he stops playing to save his nerves.
Znaci konkretno su se svi vezali za informaciju da NAPUSTA IGRU koliko sam shvatio. Kome je rekao i kad ne ulazim u to
A ja vidim da je covek i dalje aktivan. Sta to znaci? da vas je opet slagao?
Meni je dovoljna satisfakcija što sam ja pre desetak dana zbog svojih pretpostavki oko prljavih Gavranovih poslova u svom članku dobio ban na jedan dan.
Jedino što se ne kajem je što sam se izvinio Valeti, za sva ostala izvinjenja Gavranu se kajem jer se ispostavilo da sam u pravu.
u stvari ne trebam odgovor, niti me je ovo zanimalo niti ce.
mnogo dobrih ljudi je ulozilo svoj obraz u sve ovo i nema razloga da po njima se pljuje kad su oni najmanje krivi za celu pricu.
odjava