Public Support of Sally Willis Forum Openness Policy
Day 2,147, 07:57
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by Sal T. Balls
Yesterday between some hours ago Congresswoman Sally Willis lauched a debate on the public section of Congress with two requests: Changing the current CRoO and opening some of the forum sections for public display.
As Angry Hetero-Lesbian Manarchists and Womanarchists, the Shenanigoons don't recognize the power of the CRoO outside the forum.
The CRoO - What Is Wrong?
CRoO? Seriously, this is annoying and dumb. There's no FBoI is there? No NAaSA? The acronym CRoO tells us the document is dodgy before we even start reading it.
The current document hands a lot of power to the Speaker without sufficient clarity regarding the limits of that power
The Deputy Speaker role is very badly defined and described. In an ideal Congress, a Deputy Speaker, would tend to be online at times when the Speaker, isn't. The Deputy's role should be powerfully and clearly defined to the effect that the Deputy can act on his own initiative to call the house to order, or rule on a motion, or whatever. You might think the CRoO says this: It doesn't.
My preference would be for the document to undergo a complete rewrite, and thereafter to be hosted as a file on Google Docs with the sharing rights set to anyone with the link can read.
Sally Willis
The following of such rules are not, and will not, be our method of evaluating any congressman's job. As such, changing or following rules related to a particular outside section of the game remains the congressman's sole discretion.
Until the time the rules are ignored and the congress can be free from the shackles of gestalt oppression, one can't stress enough the need for congress accountability and transparency.
I want to see the following areas open to read-only for unregistered users:
The Welcome Area
The Discussion Area
ODC
eCanada Law Repository
I also want the congressmen mask to be added to with a muted-congressmen mask, so that muting a naughty congressmen does not also include blinding them. (Of course if a congressman needs to punished over a National Security matter, a full forum ban is more appropriate(...).
Sally Willis
There are no reasons for keeping the public sections of the forums closed from the public eye but to raises doubts about all political procedures taking place in that wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Since valid congress discussions were moved exclusively to the forum, lowly unregistered peasants were completely and utterly removed from the administrative discussion process.
The shenanigoons fully endorses the unregistered constituent's rights to judge the work of those to whom they trusted their vote. Knowledge must not remain a privilege of few, but every citizen's right!
Il Douce,
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"The Deputy Speaker role is very badly defined and described."
Seconded
"I want to see the following areas open to read-only for unregistered users:
The Welcome Area
The Discussion Area
ODC
eCanada Law Repository"
Seconded
"I also want the congressmen mask to be added to with a muted-congressmen mask, so that muting a naughty congressmen does not also include blinding them."
Seconded
Thank you for getting the ball rolling on this debate in-game, Herr eDouche Balls
psssh, sirry canada.
The eCan Community group is open membership, all you have to do is join it for full access.
you make it sound like it's optional when it's mandatory to watch debates unfold for the betterment of the registered and non-registered
If it is so mandatory, Sally would have asked someone about the group and been told she could join it freely and not start complaining about it and everything else.
Seriously guys, I went on the forums after they changed it and just PM'd an admin to find out why I wasn't masked, easy as that.
Opening the public sections of the forum for unregistered public viewing goes beyond Sally and she was woman enough to notice it.
How can someone agree with rules that inhibit a congressman's job to do valid proposals *ingame* and at the same time agree to debate them in a place with mandatory registration?
The unregistered have no rights whatsoever?
Let's open the ODC! Unaccountability only helps shady mongrels!
Sally Willis is a whiner and her intelligence is questionable
and she's totally butthurt about a measly 4 day ban for making an illegal in game vote that is written clear as day in the current CRoO
2 illegal votes.
What qualifies a vote as illegal? (i'm asking seriously, I assumed if the option was there ingame it's legal) Plus if she/he is making mistakes as a new congress member isn't it better to go to her/him personally and teach them what's up (if you're an experienced member of congress) rather than publically insulting him/her ?
An illegal vote is anything that a member of Congress puts up in game that hasn't been debated for at least 24 hours, and then greenlighted by the Speaker.
And normally I would agree with you. Usually when someone has their Congress masking removed (it isn't actually a ban) if the person doesn't know what they did there is back and forth, their mistake is pointed out and they tend to not do it again.
This is not a normal case. Sally Willis had been a member of Congress for less than 3 days, she didn't ask questions, she didn't seek any information on how to move forward with the type of proposal she wanted to do, she simply did what she wanted, and she was accordingly.
When she was told why and how she was being punished instead of accepting it and moving on she instead responded like a child and said she didn't do anything wrong, it was the rules that were wrong and she was going to fix them.
Ahhh ok thanks.
Still....you don't think insulting a congress member personally and publically is a tad tacky?
that's rolo for you: informed opinions
"an illegal in game vote" - classic oxymoron
What Plato allows, no one can take away.
eRep > any forum
Forums are the tools of the enemies of democracy - just look at the eUS.
Just saying ...
I advise you suspend judgement and observe the eCanada forums a bit. They are utterly different from the eUS forum which is characterized by secrecy and irrelevance. The Canadians have a very long and proud tradition of making the sausage of government in the open. The last week, for instance has seen something like 30 separate discussions threads dealing with all the important issues facing politicians and the community. All is on display: wisdom, bitterness, considered deliberation and acrimonious insult, injury, planning, foolishness, statutes and voting. A forum, supported by a majority, implies a self discipline and a hope. The reasonable hope is that by coming together in a public deliberative assembly, and conforming to its rules, eCanada will gain a well informed and stronger team. A fully informed team tends to better "democracy" and to better decisions. Just look at the eUS forums........ for the opposite. kind regards
This would be promising - though I'll always condemn sanctions against individual Congress members for acting on their own initiative.
I do agree with the poor definition of the Deputy Speaker's role, and the extent of the Speaker's power, and also the state of ingame and forum proposals, but everything else I have disagreements with. eCan forum membership is open to all citizens of eCan, it's not a hard thing to do to gain access and then you can look at all the Congress drama.
If it's not a hard thing to gain access why is it so hard to freely give it?
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