Poland, Peru, Eden, War, Peace, and Alliances [USA]
Turd Fergusen
It seems that we have a little bit of a problem on our hands. In this article, I will discuss the issue at hand, in regards to the Peruvian conflict and what I feel to be the best plan of action. Please read, take seriously, and share your feelings on this matter.
The Situation
I'm sure you are all familiar with the situation, so no need to go in depth. Private Polish militia's such as GROM months back accepted Peruvian citizenship and have PTO'd Peru. Polish militia now has control of the Peruvian congress, and Peruvian presidency, in what was a brilliant show of organization and coordination of citizen groups. The TO groups began a raiding of Peru's resources. Recently Argentina and Brazil have declared war against Peru in order to conquer Peru and purge the congress of Polish TO. Argentina attacked and conquered a few territories. Now it looks like Brazil will jump in. EDEN countries have declared neutrality so far in this conflict although many Spanish citizen have taken arms against Peru in favor of better relations with Argentina, while many Polish and Croatians have taken sides with PTO'd Peru.
Polish Point of View
Poland is a country that really "got the short end to the stick", so to say. For a country of aprox 11000 citizens, they only have six regions and no high resources. Because of this, their economy is faltering. Private citizen militia's recognized this problem and seeked to add wealth to Poland. They accomplished this by PTOing Peru. ALOT of work and a beautiful display of coordination and planning has gone into this PTO, not to mention alot of money. In the end it was a success and Peru started gathering wealth in the name of Poland. Now all this work is being threatened. Deals were being made between Argentina, and the Poles in Peru, by EDEN at a possible solution to this problem. Eden instructed Argentina not to attack. They attacked anyway. Now many Spanish and Greek citizens are fighting for Argentina, instead of their long time allies Poland. This coupled with the fact that most Eden nations are neutral is very irritating to Polish citizens.
The Peruvian/ALA/EDEN point of View
Peru is a relatively new country that first came into existance some months ago. They have a relatively low number of citizens with a developing economy and military. They also have a high iron region. Herein lies our problem. Was it a blessing from the eGods or a curse? Anyways Peru considers itself neutral. They were friendly toward the US during WWIII and even sold their Iron resources to US while we had none. Peru is the only country in South America that declined membership into PEACE. Thus Poland puts EDEN in a very tough spot. EDEN has been, for the past few months, campaigning for the rights of smaller neutral countries, and because of this, has won the alliegience of several countries (Switzerland, Australia, Ukraine, ect) If EDEN supports the Polish attempt to TO Peru, relations with smaller neutral nations will be damaged significantly. exPEACE propaganda will then claim moral supremacy and neutral countries might move away from the EDEN block.
What I think...
Not that my opinion matters much in the big scheme of things, but here is my opinion on what Americans, and EDEN should do.
I believe we should fight for our true allies, Poland!
In WWIII Poland was one of the biggest defenders of the eUS and Canada. They put up tremendous damage and sacrificed alot of gold for tanking. They are our brothers. While I disagree with the original choice of the Polish PTO groups, what was done, is done. Poland REALLY REALLY wants Peru and have invested so much into it, thus we should honor their decision. Peru on the other hand is neutral, and alll signs point to continuing their trend of neutrality, so they aren't worth investing an alliance in. Argentina is an ex member of PEACE and Atlantis. Argentina is an unreliable ally at best. When PEACE threatened them, they chose to join PEACE. Now when PEACE is no more, they are flurting with EDEN. Not to mention Argentina put up a significant amount of damage AGAINST us in many crucial battle during WWIII through their Russian MPP. It is true that many neutral nations of the world may be turned off because of this action, and I hate that. BUT even more important than added new members to EDEN, is maintaining our base. The countries that made this alliance possible. The countries that have fought for eachother, sacrificed for each other. The brotherhood of EDEN is more important than the expansion of EDEN in my view.
I look at things in a very analytical point of view, so if you are offended, I am sorry.
This decision will influence who we (eUS) will possibly have as allies in the coming months. Here is the choice. Poland, or Argentina and Peru. Poland has proven their friendship towards us. Argentina and Peru have not, or in a very limited sense. Poland is a strong country only destined to become stronger. Argentina and Peru are stagnant and weak. Poland is reliable and . Peru and Argentina are not.
Long Live Poland! 😃
Comments
Polandmaxx!
It is only true story about Peru. Great article.
<3 for USA from Poland!
republishmax!
Poland is more important than Peru, it's true, but Poland also needs to admit its PTO was sloppy, malignant and greedy. They could have owned that country's entire iron supply without completely raping its politics.
These same Poles threaten to join the Hungarians and Serbia. But I know not all of Poland thinks this way, and I hope they remember the United States is a valuable ally, more valuable than all the iron of Peru.
Read and vote this - http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/how-to-fight-efficiently-1050930/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/how-[..]1/20
LEARN HOW TO FIGHT!
Polandmaxx!
Please read and vote this: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/figh[..]/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/figh[..]/1/20
PEACE propaganda
Bullshits over bullshits feeded by the exPEACE trolls
"These same Poles threaten to join the Hungarians and Serbia. But I know not all of Poland thinks this way"
You're right..only 95%
So EDEN PTO in Belgium is ok(only to bully a smaller country), but Polish PTO in Peru(to gain high resources) is immoral?
Why can't we all just get along...and pwn wats left of PEACE!
Turd Fergusen at this moment situation look
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Legen😛
Poland should leave eden?
A - yes
B - no
C - I dont have mind
230/314 for leaving about 73%
I think tempers are hot right now, Poland will most likely stay in the alliance, but will seek reforms and more support for future projects.
Turd. Here is the problem. Sure, Poland was screwed on resources, but as a neutral country, PMTF and GROM could have set up all the iron companies they wanted, and export it to Poland. A lot of Peru was pro-Eden and no one would have ever had a problem with the Poles.
However, the problem arose when PMTF/GROM decided that exporting iron and weapons to Poland wasn't enough, that they should rob the treasury on a daily basis.
Americans moved to Peru to set up iron companies, exported to the US, and lived peaceably in Peru. Poles could have done the exact same thing. They could have created as much Iron as their hearts desired and sent it home to Poland, in peace.
There is zero justification to Polands actions.
The idea of helping a Polish PTO group maintain their grip on a neutral country is one of the reasons that the a lot of the eWorld has a low opinion of the eUS, and believe that the eUS is not a country to be trusted.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/a-clarification-about-the-pto-in-peru-1052796/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/a-cl[..]/1/20
"Peru is weak". Well, only because every single bit of currency and Gold has been syphoned off by hackers and PTO'ers. PTO'ers please leave and give us a chance.
There are negotiations on going. In reality, the nations of South America will never allow a foreign PTO colony in the region, no matter which alliance it belongs to. It is best for everyone for PTO'ers to leave.
Also, the Poles aren't the only PTO group in ePeru. Another is the Holy See. They also attempted a donation to their organization.
There are plenty of RL Peruvians playing, most of them are simply overwhelmed and confused. I know this because I participate in the forums, irc and msn. The people who say that there are few RL Peruvians playing do not participate like I do, so they have no basis to make an accurate determination of the facts.
Wally Wilson
Former President of ePeru
Here's something you don't seem to have considered. If the US were to support Poland over Peru and Argentina, then they would be sacrificing the very ideals that EDEN was built upon. Granted, the US isn't part of EDEN, but it IS allied with them. The last thing that's needed right now is a fracture in EDEN, which seems to be what's happening with Spain and Greece on one side, Poland and Croatia on the other. We really don't want to do this. If we do, we become the thing we hated the most. PEACE.
I support Poland in this. What is done is done.
This should have been handled a lot better previously by the GROM and they really shouldn't have looted the Peruvian treasury. It would be better if they stop trying to loot the Peruvian treasury
Poland is a great ally though. They not only put up massive damage for us when we were trying to free our country, but look what the POG did for Corea. From what I read of Drago's articles Sadix is a national hero over there with his extreme tanking in their most recent liberation and attempting to let the Coreans get a decent economic footing.
Hail Brolliance!
Hail Poland!
"the nations of South America will never allow a foreign PTO colony in the region"
Aren't you an American, Mr. Wilson? How is your leadership more acceptable than the leadership of the Polish? You're a foreigner, just like them.
Anyway, if the Poles want resources so much that they have to declare war against every neighboring country and coup every other new country in this game, then fine. Get the fudge out of EDEN and join your Hungarian mates. You always did think alike.
Erwin - How long Poland has to be a ally of EDEN doesn't want to help Poland (ex. Slovakia). :/
In Slovakia were neutral for all nations and in their Government only president was Polish. :/
In Peru was neutral colony too.
And what if Brazil and Argentina want not a freedom, but a territories?
I'm all for pwning PEACE. Poland likes pwning PEACE, so I like Poland
Lt. Scheisskopf
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/stars-and-stripes-journal-191155/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/st[..]155/1
"Get the fudge out of EDEN and join your Hungarian mates." Are You sure? :/
Erwin Schauman : +1
Argentina is an unreliable ally?
You should look at your own country when you say things like that...
It seems that you don't remember that the USA was supposed to help us when PEACE attacked us. What happened? You did absolutely nothing to help us. You surely know about being good friends, don't you?
thank you Ferguson