Pointless Arguements: A Must Read for eFilipinos (RL and not RL alike)
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by purge0809
It’s starting to piss me off.
The arguments that eCitizens do, that eFilipinos do.
“Put RL Filipinos in place, blah blah blah blah blah...”
I mean, what’s the point? The fact that this is just a game, it’s not much of a big deal. People win, people lose, duh...
You know what I think? I think these so-called “foreigners” that stepped in ePhilippine soil deserve our “thanks”, not our “shoo”, not our “go away!”, not our “f*ck off”, “tsupe”, “alis”, “fly away”, “go back to where your arses came from”, whatever. See the point? Saying a small thanks is better (morally and physically, would it not be better to say only one word than to say 7 or more words?), than rapping words like “!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*, yo!”?
I am a RL Filipino. Proof? “Maniwala kayo, ako ay Pilipino. Kayumanggi ang kulay ng balat ko. Bilog ang mga mata ko. Gwapo ako.” You believe me now? “Bakit? Hindi ba gwapo ang mga Pinoy?” 🙂
But the fact that I am a true Filipino doesn’t mean that I support the RL Filipino Parties (though someday, I want our nation to be ruled by RL Filipinos). And don’t even think about it. I’m not so biased, too, as to lean on the side of the “foreigner” Party (though they’re doing a great job already, and I really like it).
I’m in the middle.
Here. Many (and I mean many) eFilipinos confess their nationalistic traits in a way like this:
“Stop ruling our country, ’foreigners’! Go away! We do not need you! Blah blah blah blah blah!”
Well... Do you know what I think? I think this is true nationalism: “Suffering and sacrificing for the good of my country.”
Do you get the point? If so many RL Filipinos think it would be much suffering and sacrifice to let the foreigners rule, then, why not? It is for the good of the country, you know.
These people (if some consider them monsters, I consider them people, so deal with it) her came to help. Ok. I’m forced to get biblical facts. I’m not saying they’re like Jesus, but they’re doing His role. As Christ came here to save, so are they. I think these people here would even die for ePhilippines (AS IF!), if they could. 🙂
They have helped us stand on our own two feet. Now we are already standing, with crutches. They are the crutches. And if a disabled man tries to walk without his/her crutches, he/she falls back to where he/she came from: the floor. And if you asked me, I would not want to be anywhere on that dirty floor. How ‘bout you?
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lol nice =-p
voted 😛
.... neutrality is what we must achieve.... RL or non RL
Voted!
0o you used Google Translate, kidding.
so that after neutrality there will be activity towards the neutral side and of course will be unity
You got a point with the crutches analogy, pero that does not change the fact that we as a nation depend of foreigners too much. I'm thankful that they came to help, but we must also learn to govern ourselves.
If you keep relying on cook your food and you never try yourself, you will ALWAYS be reliant on that person. If you try yourelf, you will make mistakes, but, at least, you WILL eventually learn.
@Kalayaan
-duh... that's my point... do you know why the RL Philippines became independent? They depended on other countries first! If the Spaniards and American did not come to the Philippines, we would not be playing eRepublik, we would not be educated, we would be pagans, we would be wearing... nothing!
They are teachers. They educate us. They show us what to do.
If you aren't contented by the crutches analogy, it's not finished. Here >>> Then when we recover, we can take the crutches away and we stand on our own... See? That's how it works! I'm not saying I'm always relying on them. That'd be stupid. I want them here for the time being because I learn from them.
Your cooking analogy is good, but I would add a better idea there. You would learn cooking faster, and better if someone who already knew how to cook would teach you, help you, right? That there, is their role? Got that?
ouch.. I will be wearing nothing if not by the spaniards, japanese or americans? did the lions teached chimps how to cook or cut their food with stones? hehe **peace**
"They are teachers. They educate us. They show us what to do.">>> I agree. I learn a lot from how they run our country. But when will the student be "learned" enough? Will the teacher tell him too when he will "graduate"- or the student will decide once he knows he knows enough?
"..if a disabled man tries to walk without his/her crutches, he/she falls back to where he/she came from: the floor.">>> I agree again. If not for them we would have another Bunaly suck us dry because of our "ignorance" of the rules of the game. Coffers dry-nation bankrupt-back to square 1- we end up in the floor. But don't people who carry crutches also dream to whisk themselves of it? Even physical rehabs have "graduates"- when will we?
My POINTLESS argument is that - this musings above will NEVER die. People will always talk about freedom. People will always talk about an RL government. People will always try to think that "someday" we will be where they are now. We will know what they know. And we will be able to do ourselves what they do for us now. The student must ask the teacher now; the limp must ask his teacher now; the RL need to ask "them" now- When will be the time that you will think we are good enough to run ourselves?
Even Britain gave Hongkong a 100 years! Now how long is that in New World days?
@purge0809. We're not that pathetic and we're not uneducated people. There's just something missing in Filipinos - its UNITY.
Imagine ourselves today if we were not influenced by these foreign nations,
just like apinyaku said.
The Spanish Invasion gave us the sense of unity, we stood against them, if it weren't today there could be a republic of Surigao, Sugbu, and Bohol republic of Ilocos. Thanks to them.
We're back in our tribalistic ways, an anti-social nation.
Japanese occupation made us strong, made Hukbalahap...
Furthermore hollywood movies portray the world becoming united because of a threat of an alien invasion. Experience will give us lessons in life that will never be forgotten at least in ONE GENERATION.
Yeah, have we forgotten our unity?
Please stop refering to us as 'foreigners' there isn't really such thing in eRep, you can live where you like. The UK hasn't had a RL British President in months (hes currently RL Maltese) but no-one cares because eRep is nothing like RL.
Yeah! Who cares if some people in here are from another country, just like purge0809 said, it's just a game and we're just trying to enjoy the game, chill people! everyone could live wherever we they want to. They moved here because they want to live here, they want to be Filipinos, at least, in eRepublik, it's human rights people!
@Bestie101: Thanks for the food when i joined here, it really helped me a lot!
@Kidlat: Your comment would be much better if you changed "learned" to "educated", but then again, it's your comment, and i'm not an english major...
@purge0809: Voted! hope this enters the top 5 articles...
Does it matter if someone lives in the RL Philippines? If they put the ePhilippines 1st before ALL other countries including any they have ties to in RL, add money / jobs / work / community effort / even just fun, to the ePhilippines and don't seek to profit and run away (like Brunaly) then surely they are an eFilipino and in the eWorld could be treated as such and not as an enermy 🙂
que pasa a boca?
Well, guess my points have been misuderstood... My points have been used AGAINST me... ain't that funny?
@KIDLAT: who decides? when one graduates? It is the one who taught you. It depends if he is righteous or corrupt, whatever. Which brings us to the second thing: I BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE WHICH YOU CALL "FOREIGNERS" WILL NOT SUCK US DRY! ugh! Did Bunaly set up an organized cabinet? Did Bunaly set up an organized Military? Did Bunaly put up Defense Systems in this country? NO! Why? Because he never really wanted to help us, d*mn it!
@Bestie: You got it all wrong... I'm not the one to call you 'foreigner'... I was just referring the word to those people who would call you as 'foreigner'... I believe in the fact that you, setting foot on ePhilippine soil, will be considered an eFilipino not a 'foreigner' or eForeigner, whatever, in any way...
@Mr. Dimagiba 2.0: Your alive! well, I'll get to the point: That is my point in writing this article: UNITY! We are divided because some self-proclaimed RL Filipinos always say "get out!", "go away!", blah blah blah blah blah! People are arguing and you call that UNITY? pffft... I think not!
@Agent JC/Monkey Business: guess you're the only one who got my point right, especially Monkey Business... That statement of yours is the only thing I want to prove RIGHT...
-to those who misuderstood my article: You have low IQ (just kidding), read again, maybe you would understand... I don't mean to fight anybody... I just want everyone to open their eyes, hear the music we call truth and play this game... 🙂
peace out... 🙂
Sorry it was aimed at some of the comments rather than the article, that I agree with.
@purge0809. That's what I'm trying to say, people should stop arguing that will just lead to nothing. Instead we should unite and we're not that helpless you know. I was just adding up to what you're saying I thought it'd help.
I'm also saying we owe these guys thanks, in a way that they helped us rise from the ashes. Our nation progressed faster than we could expect after what Bunaly did to us.
btw I didn't notice you're an avatar fan too, like me 😛
This is not a pointless "Argue" ment. It is actually a good discussion, where people give their opinion and that doesn't mean that people have low IQ if they don't agree at all with what you write (I know your kidding). In my opinion, most of the FPM came here to share their experiences as well as gain experience (like pacifying us? hehe), like how they handle or run a new country with people who reluctantly welcome their offers. So being a pro or anti on them, helps them gain knowledge too. It is better to discuss or argue on things as it is where greats minds and ideas sprout, instead of being quiet sharing nothing. So dont be pissed off sir, its a win-win situation for all 🙂
"but we must also learn to govern ourselves."
This will happen dont worry =-p, i can already see a few of u catching on and talking about certain things, as we're creating the taxs ect...ull get to a point and think...whats the diffrence..? and ull find out =-p
also yea anyone who needs food PM me theres a lack of jobs atm and u people need food 😛
@romansoldier
I believe that's the point of you getting in this country the first place....
What is the problem whit me?I yust come here with my hungarian friends.
@Mr. Dimagiba: yeah... if I misunderstood, sorry... 🙂
and yes, I really like Avatar... haha...
@apinyaku: no THIS is the PONTLESS ARGUEMENT>>> "get out of here!", "stay away from ePhilippines!"
You're trying to get rid of them and they learn from it? wow! amazing! My point here is arguments causes disunity (is there such a word?)... Good, if what you're debating on is something that could help, but the only thing these self-proclaimed RL and non-RL Filipinos is trying to get rid of your non-RL Filipinos! You're trying to brush off people who is trying to help... That's a slap in their face, don't you know that?
To purge0809:
Well, you have a point. And indeed, as written in my last post, I am thankful for their help.
But I guess that my statements were just the effect of homesickness on a citizen who has been too far from the country for far too long with very few fellow-countryment to interact with for all those years. Sorry about that.
And so long as these people do the eNation good and don't do as that wretched Bunaly did (or worse), then I welcome them to govern us... so long as they keep teaching us.
We must accep their help for the benefit of the ePhilippines. BUT, we must remember that, with all the assistance that we willingly recieve, so will also be our debt of honor/gratitude to them. We must be careful not to put ourselves too much in their debt.
@Kalayaan: Your last statement is, pretty much, correct...
wala ako pakyalam sa mga party party na ganyan basta ipaasensyo nyo lang ang pilispinas wag nyu namang gawin real life pilipinas to mga tol game na lang nga T_T
Just what my article says...
Yoko nice avatar btw.
YAWL for ePhilippines!
BTW, I think purge and I would make very good friends because of him writing this article.
YEY!!!
my first paper to get 20 votes, and enter the top 5!!!
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🙂
@those self-proclaimed RL Filipinos that do not (or maybe cannot) understand my article, or understands but, cannot accept the truth that it brings:
"I really hate flaming, which could get me banned BTW, but most you RL Filipinos are--- ... Like RL Filipinos, completely oblivious to the obvious. You do not understand the article."
-Raymundo Juan
""ePhilippines run by eFilipinos (REGARDLESS of RL nationality)."
This
Remember that this is a game, and that we're all stuck on a server and our piece of info has the title "Philippines""
-romansoldier
"all we need is unity... not contented? eUnity, if you know what I mean..."
-purge0809
^These three statements here sum up this, and my article...
@Mr. Dimagiba: I'm really sorry, didn't think that your statement supports my article... haha... I misunderstood...
@Kalayaan 001. Conclusion: Please run for the April 25 Congressional Elections under the banner of the party of your choice. Your words speak well of your wisdom, but the country needs your actions above all.
@Apinyaku. Same with Kalayaan.
wow... may someone explain to me what exactly is happening here?
@purge0809: haha, laki ng ulo mo dude. 😃
@purge0809. Congrats to your newspaper, it really gained popularity because of this argument. 🙂
our or my comments doesn't mean we or I am getting rid of them. Btw, which are your references about the “alis”, “fly away”, “go back to where your arses came from"?
My first reaction when they reached this island before the congress election is that, they are 'conquerors'. Of course, who wouldn't be afraid by that surprise? Some existing ePinoy by that time tries to balance the congress and put a fair fight to avoid only 1 ruling party. Due to their strong Unity they won the majority. Now they are gaining trust from old ePinoys, its because they've adjusted their approach.
I do believe that within these process, they gain knowledge and learned much on it. Especially on how to make the leftist or anti to their party believe in them and much better join them on their plan.
A 'Kudos' to them actually for the great thing they are doing now for the country. So for being con is not pointless at all, it just become pointless if you give wrong impression with what they are being con about.
So again dont be pissed off, as you have said this is a game. A game where strategy works, just like what you did to this article 🙂
btw, i forgot to tell you that I voted and subscribed to your newspaper.
@apinyaku: if you helped making this paper first, thanks! 🙂
Really... are you those people who want to shoo them back to their "country"? From what I'm seeing from your recent comment, we are debating on the same side...
The thing I'm pissed about this is the fact na "maraming tumtaboy sa mga taong ito", but from your recent comment, you do not look like the one to shoo them off... Are you really contradicting me?
🙂
@Jenavee: bat lumaki ang ulo ko? na-excite lng ako na nkapasok ung article ko, and ngaun top 1 na sya... hnd ka ba ma-eexcite nyan??? 🙂
Nope. I mostly agree with your point, though I may be in opposition side. I enjoy this kind of articles where I can comment, which makes this game interesting for me 🙂
sure... and yes, i totally agree with you (for the first time?)
the discussions is what makes this game circulate... 🙂