Please Define 99% and the Middle Class...
Konrad Neumann
It is indeed a shame to see the so called commies of eBE are so ignorant of the creed that they claim to follow and believe. Recently Vincent Pain aka Wim wrote an article titled EBE, the 99% and the Capitalistic State which shows no grasped of the basic understanding of game rules.
He started his article with the 99 percent saying that the 99 percent are the middle class. While it is not an homogenized group, he argues the "evils" of capitalism is the cause of the middle class of declining influence. The problem with his argument is lack of quantifiable evidence. What is the middle class in terms of eRepublik or in eBelgium? How do you define middle class in the game? For the economic system of eRepublik is so different from real life, Wim's argument holds many methodological problems for it is impossible to define the variables he evokes. Do we quantify how much CC and gold each player has on hand? Do we count how much money they earn each work day (cash)? What about communes? Do we count the combine value of cash income from work as well as the values of supplies we get from communes? Does citizen packs counts as income to be counted in the determining process of class? What about assets? The problem with Wim's argument is that he throws a monolithic term, middle class, and fail to define what it means. He also states that the middle class is losing social grounds? In what way? What is the direct causal link between capitalism and the decline of social mobility? Are his statement even accurate as what percentage of the eBE population works in communes and who do not? Wim fails to define and to argue his case with quantitative evidence.
Wim then later argues the evils of greedy bankers and the economicization of the planet solely for profit. Why did he title this article, " EBE, the 99% and the Capitalistic State"??? Where is the eBE part? Where is the eRep part as well? If you look at the eWorld, military and state communes are abundant. It is the competition of communes that benefits the players and the community overall. For the capitalistic competition especially in eRepublik that allows consumers to shop around and to see which commune offers the most benefit? The burden and hardship in the erepublik job market is not on the workers but that of the communes. Most if not all communes are non-profit. Any extra "profits" are given back to its members. Many communes operate at a lost in which the members of the commune contribute back into the commune so it will continue to operate. Where is the oppression or suffering of the working/ middle class? Heroes like MaryamQ, Tecuvo, and even ThomasRed in the past spend a lot of their own personal resources and cash for the benefit of the eBE community. While some might also personally benefited from such ventures, the overall good and the overall picture (Leibnizian notion) vindicates the capitalist system in eRep. For it benefits the community and the so called "99 percent" (which I defined as anyone who does not run a commune or a company other than for subsistence living) than that of the business elites. Even if one works for a for profit organization, employment is not base on citizenship and one can work for any company in any countries that one wants. In eBE, wages are around 38 BEF and in the US wages are in the 50's. The cost of living like the cost of food and weapons is cheap. There are still many opportunity for growth. Where is the oppression or the decline in social mobility etc?
In Wim's last paragraph, he concludes that what is legal does not mean it is moral/ ethical. He states that the laws and the rules of the "Elite and rich" are not ethical. In typical commie fashion, he evokes Nazism as an example. Well which law in the eBE community evoked by the rich and elite is unethical in his eyes? Also why is it unethical. Any respectable political scientist or students of political philosophy/ theory would deal with political ethics. For the ethics of the individual differs than the ethics of the state. I am not evoking Machiavelli but Weber on this issue for the state deals with the moneys of the community (tax payers) as well as the security and well being of community, they operates much differently from the individual. Like that of the immigration policy, it is wrong for the individual to discriminate or alienate strangers. For the individual, it is polite and welcoming. However, for the state needs to maintain security and the wellbeing of the community. It cannot afford to have an open door policy and welcomes all. The threat of PTOs suggest that public servants is ethically just to prevent PTO's and other hostiles. It is the duty of public servants. For public servants that does not defend the main interest of the community, not just legally, but ethically, he/she is in the wrong.
Overall the commies of eBE lacks basic understanding of the game mechanics. They take their ideology (not really accurate in RL as well) and forces it upon the game. The eBE variant of eCommunism is a total failure since it forces an ideology into the game. Instead, one should look at the game and create a new and unique philosophy/ world view with your individual ideals. This true with the eCommunism of the past. Players like Phoenix Quinn, Johnobrow, Iain Keers, MachtGeil does this and they have proper philosophy that operates in union with the game rules. They also offer proper and relevant critiques without resorting to rhetoric.
In the end, eBE and the overall eRep community benefited from capitalism. Many people grew a lot faster with it than without it. Goods are cheaper if one does buy things, and capitalism and its ideals in this game is more about competition of communes and the job market than the dialectic clash of the working/middle class and that of the capitalist class. The biggest impediment for the LCC and the radical side of the eLeft is the lack of understanding of the game rules and the community. For their continuing rhetoric and dealing with issues outside of the game/ game rules makes their overall movement less and less creditable.
Comments
And you have gamers who are playing for fun, several clicks it's enough, because so a lot of players are proud "look at me i'm a celibrity... i'm a stronger like others..."
I don't want to enter of a capitalist game.
the text Wim has published is not written by himself, it is even not related to eRep but to the USA of today, it is a anarchist manifest he took from a blog and he cut some things out.
Most things in erep come from RL. That doesn't make them less fitting to the game. Absurd to attack one because he uses creativity. And yes re-using RL messages that work IG is a form of creativity..
Obviously Vegan did not read the article for his RL message does not work with in game and his overall presentation shows the lack of creativity.
You know what I find lacking of creativity Konrad is that you moved to eBe with only one reason to target some of its citizens. Not one of your articles has a positive message. Each one of them attacks some citizens and is as long as possible so actually almost nobody reads them.
When will this bubble burst and will people see what you are actually doing. Sawing hate and exclusion. I wouldn't call that community building but hell who am I..
Regardless of what you say, you cannot take criticism of any kind. You build up a wall for yourself that is blocking you from seeing what the community thinks and believes. You can continue to attack me personally while if you read my articles, are not personal attacks but an critique of policy and position. As to yourself, the bubble did burst and many of your old mates are really concerned about the radical direction you have taken, They wish you to wake up and return to the moderate path.
I think you are wrong NONE of my old mates are concerned about the direction I have taken. Btw if you would know eBe a bit you would know that I am actually much less radical than before.
Instead of you saying all the time that old mates are concerned I would like to hear that from them. Again you are trying to finger point just by saying blabla stuff. Give facts or shut up.
And please stop creating hate and exclusion. In the end it will come back to you. I am sure of that!
Well base on all of your comments, it seems you are the only angry person here shouting your personal hatred for me. I am sure your old mates will talk to you soon if they care. If they do not, then they gave up on you. Regardless, before your rants here things was calm. It is still interesting that you do not for once address any of the issues covered in my articles. All you do is shouting your frustration and anger towards me. The only angry hateful person base on division is you and LCC.
konrad the only one who makes rants and shouting frustration and anger is you. Replying to an article that names me and spreads untruths seems only normal. I have never talked about you in an article. Actually I don't know why I would. I don't find you so interesting an not at all powerful or representative of what happens in eBe. So why would I take the time to write about you?
As for those mates you talk about. I am sorry but none of them have contacted me to say I did something wrong.
Some have contacted me in the past months that they like my new style. As they know I am much less radical than before and first of all think about the community and not about myself.
Konrad things are not less calm then before. And if they are that has nothing to do with me. I only have responded to a few of your articles where you talked about me or trying to discredit other community members . Only you are trying to stir up things.
You flatters yourself if you think I write articles about you or others. I write about policy contents. It is not a sin to mention people in the article. I mention MaryamQ Shadow, Tecuvo and many others. If I mentioned you once in the past article, not even this article, you went on an vendetta against me. And what untruths. Because you said so? I use quotes and other evidence to support my claims, where are yours?
Konrad you mention me in an article (yesterday) while I haven't been active in politics for months now. In this article you try to discredit someone else who isn't really active anymore either.
So no I do not see how these articles are useful and not just intended to discredit some citizens you seem to hate or at least love to target.
Anyway feel free to continue. It is flattering to get so much press about me when I am not even really active..
I mentioned you yesterday in a different article and why are you mentioned it in this article? You are the one who wants to discredit people and your comment just reenforce the notion that you are on an vendetta against me. You did not read this article and you do not care to comment on it. You just troll your personal anger towards me due to past articles...
lol last time I react to your hate propaganda. This article is created with the same intend as the one yesterday. To discredit citizens. And that is why I react. You call yourself a community builder. But community builder doesn't constantly pick on people and try to exclude them. It is the opposite of what you pretend to be. And that is why I react.
But anyway don't worry I don't have the time to play these stupid games. It won't take long until others see this as well (some already do).
I will try to answer you'r question Konrad. First you must know that our living standard is not limited to the number of material achievements, the meaning of life is the quality of life in its highest form, our "wellbeing".
And how do you quantify that? This still falls into the same problem in that you have no evidence that the "well being" of anyone is going down. Also what does well being means? You are using different terms but not defining anything. And there is no evidence or trends be it of statistical or normative in nature.
You two stop fighting or you will have to kiss and make up.
On a lighter note: How did you get my picture?
A nice Norwegian modeling site 😁
simply said "OUR ptos r okay, THEIR ptos r pure evil and need to be stopped at all cost". can someone at least count herself as local resident (in konrad's terminology WE; plx notice the slight xenophobic accent here) of belgium without konrad's approval? obviously not, for konrad ate all the understanding of the game mechanics, ethics and the community.
Did you read the article, Lin0?
Well Lino, the so caled 'GOV PTO' is just another name for POWER USE or ABUSE for me both are the same. The determing factor is power, those in power make the rules and of course, everyone should stick to those rules. But to get those rules accepted by the people, the politicians and powerfull people must explain why those rules are in favor of the lower classes. Then they force, threatening with punishment, the observance of those rules. If you don't follow the rules or object you are a PTO'er
If you don't follow the law, you're a criminal and treated as such. If you want laws to change, you convince people in a civil manner through debate and not by shouting at them or breaking community instored rules and then waving your middle finger at those who do follow the rules.
If you want to convince me that you're right I want logic and in context arguments.
Nohjis, you are naive. For example an action of civil disobedience is by definition illegal. You deliberately violate certain laws to stand up against a crime, injustice or anny problem just to start a dialogue, to enforce the peoples democratic power. You do not violate any law, there is a certain relationship between the law that you transgress and the problem or what it is about. Acts of civil disobedience are violent, openly and you accept any legal consequence as part of the action.
But before coming to civil disobedience a debate should be engaged or a larger public should be convinced to give better a greater voice to your ideas. When 3 people put themselves against 30 who disagree and 70 who don't care; civil disobedience is not going to work.